Medium Swiss army knife with locking blade
Discussion
BaldOldMan said:
V8RX7 said:
I do too but I know if discovered, I could well be in trouble.
Google it - plenty of people have been prosecuted, including a retired Officer who had it in his car !
Yikes - I'm sure I have one in my glovebox that locks - better have a look in the morning !Google it - plenty of people have been prosecuted, including a retired Officer who had it in his car !
Mario149 said:
It lives in my trouser pocket 24/7. So it's not that I'd be actively taking it to work (although occasionally it comes out fo random things), just that the vast majority of the time it would end up on my person on a daily basis by default.
I'd suggest that as 99.9% of the population survive without taking a locking knife on their daily commute that you have two knives:1) your commuting knife that does not lock and lives in your one pair of trousers
2) your personal locking Swiss army knife for special occasions in your non work trousers for jobs around the house
Either way I would not want to try to explain away a locking knife... it just looks odd.. kind of «every helpful adult venture scout kind of helpful». Not sure how the locking bit would help with your random things.
Breadvan72 said:
Times must be be tough in PBDOMC World, or maybe the price of 'roids and weights have gone up, if you can only afford one pair of trousers.
Walking around London with a knife like that sounds to me a bit Walt-Ray Mears/Grizzly Adams to me. Do you have a manly beard?
I had an interesting moustache in November....Walking around London with a knife like that sounds to me a bit Walt-Ray Mears/Grizzly Adams to me. Do you have a manly beard?
You're making more of it than it is. My keys, wallet, phone and SAK all live together on a shelf in my bedroom - when I get dressed, they all go into my pockets for convenience without me even thinking. Otherwise sods law says I'll need one of them during the day and not have it. In fact my other half literally 2 mins ago popped over to ask for the SAK to go and open some amazon parcels or some such.
If I have to think about whether I can take any of them out with me - the SAK in this case - then it defies the point of having it as it'll likely just sit on the shelf and not be available to me when I need it
The law is quite clear but I'll simplify it...
The foldable blade (non lockable) can be carried around all day long without good reason as long as the blade is less than 3 inches.
The lockable blade is illegal to carry in public unless you have a jolly good reason for doing so. (And still has to be less than 3 inches long).
The foldable blade (non lockable) can be carried around all day long without good reason as long as the blade is less than 3 inches.
The lockable blade is illegal to carry in public unless you have a jolly good reason for doing so. (And still has to be less than 3 inches long).
I have somehow survived the savage urban jungle that is London since the mid 1980s without ever wishing that I had a knife on me to do random things with. Clearly I have led a sheltered life.
I also have this weird habit of emptying all the keys and coins and assorted tat that are in my pockets out onto a table at home, and then picking up only the things that I actually want to take with me the next day. Pretty bizarre conduct, I grant you.
I also have this weird habit of emptying all the keys and coins and assorted tat that are in my pockets out onto a table at home, and then picking up only the things that I actually want to take with me the next day. Pretty bizarre conduct, I grant you.
vaud said:
Mario149 said:
It lives in my trouser pocket 24/7. So it's not that I'd be actively taking it to work (although occasionally it comes out fo random things), just that the vast majority of the time it would end up on my person on a daily basis by default.
I'd suggest that as 99.9% of the population survive without taking a locking knife on their daily commute that you have two knives:1) your commuting knife that does not lock and lives in your one pair of trousers
2) your personal locking Swiss army knife for special occasions in your non work trousers for jobs around the house
Either way I would not want to try to explain away a locking knife... it just looks odd.. kind of «every helpful adult venture scout kind of helpful». Not sure how the locking bit would help with your random things.
The one I like with the couple of extra tools on it happens to lock. My current one doesn't. I don't need it to lock.
Mr. Jimmy said:
I have an older model of this same knife, mine doesn't lock in any way. Are you quite sure that this one does?.
I was thinking something similar, I have an old sak which maybe has a slightly different configuration. Why would they make a knife that is illegal to carry or does that only apply in the UK?Breadvan72 said:
I have somehow survived the savage urban jungle that is London since the mid 1980s without ever wishing that I had a knife on me to do random things with. Clearly I have led a sheltered life.
I also have this weird habit of emptying all the keys and coins and assorted tat that are in my pockets out onto a table at home, and then picking up only the things that I actually want to take with me the next day. Pretty bizarre conduct, I grant you.
Bloody hell you must be a riot at parties. It's a multi tool that has a knife on it, not a knife that I carry around rambo style. Whether that blade locks or not, while very relevant to law clearly, is irrelevant in a practical sense to the vast majority of the population who may want (or not) to own one for everyday purposesI also have this weird habit of emptying all the keys and coins and assorted tat that are in my pockets out onto a table at home, and then picking up only the things that I actually want to take with me the next day. Pretty bizarre conduct, I grant you.
Anyway, I take your points. You have your routine, I have mine.
flashbang said:
The law is quite clear but I'll simplify it...
The foldable blade (non lockable) can be carried around all day long without good reason as long as the blade is less than 3 inches.
The lockable blade is illegal to carry in public unless you have a jolly good reason for doing so. (And still has to be less than 3 inches long).
Makes sense.The foldable blade (non lockable) can be carried around all day long without good reason as long as the blade is less than 3 inches.
The lockable blade is illegal to carry in public unless you have a jolly good reason for doing so. (And still has to be less than 3 inches long).
Mr. Jimmy said:
I have an older model of this same knife, mine doesn't lock in any way. Are you quite sure that this one does?.
It's listed as locking on the website: https://www.victorinox.com/uk/en/Products/Swiss-Ar...Maybe they didn't used to be Was rather hoping there might be a UK-friendly version available but seems not. Hence my other thread about disabling the locking mechanism
Pat H said:
It’s fine on your boat, as you would have a lawful excuse or good reason.
Would cause you a world of problems if you were caught in town with it.
I’m representing a chap tomorrow who was arrested with a retractable craft knife in his pocket. If he gets a suspended sentence it will be a good result for him.
The courts are instructed to deal very robustly with knife offences.
When I started out as a solicitor, carrying a knife might earn you a fine. These days it’s prison. Suspended sentence if you’re lucky.
Minimum sentence of 6 months for a second conviction of possession of a blade or weapon.
I asked a BTP officer on the Central line if it was alright to carry my SA knife a couple of years ago. He laughed at me and said something like as long as I didn’t do something stupid with it, yes. Would cause you a world of problems if you were caught in town with it.
I’m representing a chap tomorrow who was arrested with a retractable craft knife in his pocket. If he gets a suspended sentence it will be a good result for him.
The courts are instructed to deal very robustly with knife offences.
When I started out as a solicitor, carrying a knife might earn you a fine. These days it’s prison. Suspended sentence if you’re lucky.
Minimum sentence of 6 months for a second conviction of possession of a blade or weapon.
There are people on the Tube everyday that carry multi tools and I bet they aren’t all the blade-less types.
Think a SA knife is a bit different from a Stanley knife or kitchen knife. Isn’t it discretionary to a degree as far as the law is concerned?
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