Car keys found and witheld until proof of ownership

Car keys found and witheld until proof of ownership

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Nemophilist

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2,969 posts

181 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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I don't currently know the full details yet but what I know so far is:

My friend lost her car key on Monday am. Assumed she had lost them in the house she looks all over.

Today a man knocks on her door and says he has found a car key on the pavement outside her house and asks if it is hers.

She says yes and that she was looking for it.

He wont give them to her until she shows him proof she owns the car.

The car is parked on a public road.

She doesn't have the log book as it is leased.

I can only assume she trusts him to bring the key back when she finds she has suitable proof its her car.

She has a 4 year old to get to nursery in the next village and has been relying on lifts.

What would be the quickest way of proving the car is hers?

I am obviously not as trusting as her as in my view, he has effectively stole her car key.







bitchstewie

51,210 posts

210 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Nothing at all on paper or email to show she's
  • Taxed it?
  • Insured it?
  • MOT'd it?
  • Serviced it?
  • Pays for it?
confused

Flumpo

3,743 posts

73 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Is he still at the door?!

I would have given him the reg number, car colour type and walked with him to unlock it.

If that wasn’t enough I would begrudgingly show him an email about the car that surely exists.

If he was still refusing, police time.

Nemophilist

Original Poster:

2,969 posts

181 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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bhstewie said:
Nothing at all on paper or email to show she's
  • Taxed it?
  • Insured it?
  • MOT'd it?
  • Serviced it?
  • Pays for it?
confused
I have suggested insurance as its most likely to be available on phone.
Unsure what she would have to prove who pays but will ask.

Edited by Nemophilist on Wednesday 11th December 22:54

Flumpo

3,743 posts

73 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I can’t comprehend this situation. Unless this is a prime example of two idiots colliding.

Man: hello, I’ve found some car keys outside have you lost any?
Friend: oh my god yes, I’ve been worried sick and looking everywhere.
Man: just to be safe what type of keys have you lost?
Friend: no problem, it’s ford key for the blue 19 reg focus just down there. I will show you.
Man: that’s great, here are your keys.


Nemophilist

Original Poster:

2,969 posts

181 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Flumpo said:
Is he still at the door?!

I would have given him the reg number, car colour type and walked with him to unlock it.

If that wasn’t enough I would begrudgingly show him an email about the car that surely exists.

If he was still refusing, police time.
I'm assuming shes let him go home. Not something I or I expect most people would do.


vaud

50,496 posts

155 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Have her tell him to hand it to the police and she will deal with them?

Nemophilist

Original Poster:

2,969 posts

181 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Flumpo said:
Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I can’t comprehend this situation. Unless this is a prime example of two idiots colliding.

Man: hello, I’ve found some car keys outside have you lost any?
Friend: oh my god yes, I’ve been worried sick and looking everywhere.
Man: just to be safe what type of keys have you lost?
Friend: no problem, it’s ford key for the blue 19 reg focus just down there. I will show you.
Man: that’s great, here are your keys.
My thoughts exactly.
I cant help think that unless he was a very strange person she wouldn't be in this situation.



Edited by Nemophilist on Wednesday 11th December 22:53

steveo3002

10,525 posts

174 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Flumpo said:
Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I can’t comprehend this situation. Unless this is a prime example of two idiots colliding.

Man: hello, I’ve found some car keys outside have you lost any?
Friend: oh my god yes, I’ve been worried sick and looking everywhere.
Man: just to be safe what type of keys have you lost?
Friend: no problem, it’s ford key for the blue 19 reg focus just down there. I will show you.
Man: that’s great, here are your keys.
yeah you'd think so eh , could also say yeah theres a meatloaf cd in the glovebox and some used pink underkrackers in the spare wheel well or such like

Edited by steveo3002 on Wednesday 11th December 15:51

Flumpo

3,743 posts

73 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Nemophilist said:
Flumpo said:
Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I can’t comprehend this situation. Unless this is a prime example of two idiots colliding.

Man: hello, I’ve found some car keys outside have you lost any?
Friend: oh my god yes, I’ve been worried sick and looking everywhere.
Man: just to be safe what type of keys have you lost?
Friend: no problem, it’s ford key for the blue 19 reg focus just down there. I will show you.
Man: that’s great, here are your keys.
My thoughts exactly.
My friend is a little ditsy and disorganised but I cant help think that unless he was a very strange person she wouldn't be in this situation.
I would say there is a risk this key keeper is on a power trip. Insist you are someone else is with her for the key hand over

Nemophilist

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2,969 posts

181 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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steveo3002 said:
yeah you'd think so eh , could also say yeah theres a meatloaf cd in the glovebox and some used pink underkrackers in the spare wheel weel or such like
Thats what I was thinking, there must be items of hers in the carboot that only she could describe.

Ive asked her what on earths going on so will see what she comes back with.


Nemophilist

Original Poster:

2,969 posts

181 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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She's just told me that she was so taken aback that he didnt just give her the keys that she didn't even think about looking for her insurance papers or anything else to prove it.

Hes not there now.

She has a number and said she will ask him to drop them to the police station and she will pick them up from there.

Im not too sure what proof the police ask for in these situations.

I'l offer to go with her to meet him if there's any trouble.

Lonely

1,099 posts

168 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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vaud said:
Have her tell him to hand it to the police and she will deal with them?
Police haven't been responsible for lost/found property for years.

vaud

50,496 posts

155 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Lonely said:
Police haven't been responsible for lost/found property for years.
Must vary by force:

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/advice/lost-an...

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Has she got a second key?
What is to stop the chap from taking the car?

Lonely

1,099 posts

168 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Nemophilist said:
She's just told me that she was so taken aback that he didnt just give her the keys that she didn't even think about looking for her insurance papers or anything else to prove it.

Hes not there now.

She has a number and said she will ask him to drop them to the police station and she will pick them up from there.

Im not too sure what proof the police ask for in these situations.

I'l offer to go with her to meet him if there's any trouble.
Different force areas have different protocols over property - some won't accept anything at all, so make sure you know before a wasted phone call to the bloke asking him to hand them in. Better off just getting some proof of ownership sorted then when he doesn't play ball phone the police to resolve.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

118 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Unbelievable.

Yes, they are my keys, here is the car, in the drivers door you'll find a half eaten pack of minstrels and in the glove box is a pink fluffy deicing mitt.

Feel free to check if you really must, and then please can I have my keys back.

There must be some kind of identifying marks or objects that only she knows about,

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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vaud said:
Lonely said:
Police haven't been responsible for lost/found property for years.
Must vary by force:

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/advice/lost-an...
Ditto Derbyshire: https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/ro/report/lp/lost...

Lonely

1,099 posts

168 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Riley Blue said:
vaud said:
Lonely said:
Police haven't been responsible for lost/found property for years.
Must vary by force:

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/advice/lost-an...
Ditto Derbyshire: https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/ro/report/lp/lost...
Every one is different - https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q245.htm

poo at Paul's

14,147 posts

175 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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‘Hi I found some keys have you lost any’ ?

‘Yes , thanks,
‘What type of car is it?’
‘Errrrrrrrrrrrr".......................silver one......or is it white......’

‘ can I have a go on your bangers’ ?

‘Sure’

‘Here’s your keys!’

biggrin