Car keys found and witheld until proof of ownership

Car keys found and witheld until proof of ownership

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V8RX7

26,901 posts

264 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I had a slightly weirder one happen...

Driving through the Village 5pm at dusk, see a little lad - maybe 3 on the pavement, no adults around.

Stop, grab him, not sure what to do, don't want to get accused of abduction so immediately call the Police.

Police say they're coming

Terrified adult rushes out of nearby house, huge relief we have their son.

We tell Police not to bother coming out

Police say that we are not to hand over the child, nor go inside !

Citing child abuse, proving the child is theirs etc

So we all had to wait on the pavement for them to turn up.



washingitagain

2,754 posts

58 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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V8RX7 said:
I had a slightly weirder one happen...

Driving through the Village 5pm at dusk, see a little lad - maybe 3 on the pavement, no adults around.

Stop, grab him, not sure what to do, don't want to get accused of abduction so immediately call the Police.

Police say they're coming

Terrified adult rushes out of nearby house, huge relief we have their son.

We tell Police not to bother coming out

Police say that we are not to hand over the child, nor go inside !

Citing child abuse, proving the child is theirs etc

So we all had to wait on the pavement for them to turn up.
Weird but loads of reasons why I agree with that approach not least because the parents probably need a firm word about looking after their kid.

fido

16,803 posts

256 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Q. Why did the chicken cross the road?
A. To find out if some idiot had dropped their car keys outside.

Q. Knock knock ..


Sorry: laugh

cadmunkey

460 posts

90 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Do lease cars only come with one key?
Other key kept by the lease company to easily repossess or what?

SlimJim16v

5,679 posts

144 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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funkyrobot said:
I guess this thread proves one thing .....
Don't drop your fking keys!
Having only one key is fking stupid.

Leptons

5,114 posts

177 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Nemophilist said:
All sorted.

The guy posted the key through her letterbox late last night so she found it on her doormat this morning

She told me he was mid 30’s and his wife is a police officer, so maybe something to do with that.

She said she was just so surprised he didn’t give them to her when he knocked on her door the first time.
He held them o it right in front of her face and she was so excited and thankful he found them and when she went to reach for them he snatched them back and said he needed proof.

It’s been a bit stressful as she’s been relying on lifts and an unreliable bus but she’s just glad she’s got it back now.

Guy is obviously just a strange one or on a bit of a power trip.
He sounds like a PHer.

Chiswickboy

549 posts

189 months

Friday 13th December 2019
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fido said:
Not a car but a house - when I was moving in the sellers had left the keys with a neighbour. Despite a huge removals van outside she didn’t believe that I was the new owner. I had to ring the agent and hand the phone to the lady and she unwillingly handed over the keys. Some people are just odd. Either that or as suggested before he wants a favour (or two) for his trouble!
A colleague took a few days off work to move into a new house. He and his wife went back to work on the following Monday morning. Arrived home Monday evening to an empty house - completely cleared out with not a stick of furniture left.

Neighbours said that a liveried pantechnicon arrived with a business like team dressed in a "uniform" with baize aprons who proceeded to load all the furniture in the back. They thought my colleague and his wife had decided they did not like the property and were moving out!

Moral of story is that your neighbour may not have asked someone to pop around and cut the cat. off the his car.


Durzel

12,276 posts

169 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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washingitagain said:
V8RX7 said:
I had a slightly weirder one happen...

Driving through the Village 5pm at dusk, see a little lad - maybe 3 on the pavement, no adults around.

Stop, grab him, not sure what to do, don't want to get accused of abduction so immediately call the Police.

Police say they're coming

Terrified adult rushes out of nearby house, huge relief we have their son.

We tell Police not to bother coming out

Police say that we are not to hand over the child, nor go inside !

Citing child abuse, proving the child is theirs etc

So we all had to wait on the pavement for them to turn up.
Weird but loads of reasons why I agree with that approach not least because the parents probably need a firm word about looking after their kid.
Agreed. If a 3 year old was left alone outside long enough for the guy to spot him, stop, grab him and call the Police then the parents need a very stern talking to.

Red Devil

13,067 posts

209 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Nemophilist said:
All sorted.

The guy posted the key through her letterbox late last night so she found it on her doormat this morning

She told me he was mid 30’s and his wife is a police officer, so maybe something to do with that.

She said she was just so surprised he didn’t give them to her when he knocked on her door the first time.
He held them o it right in front of her face and she was so excited and thankful he found them and when she went to reach for them he snatched them back and said he needed proof.

It’s been a bit stressful as she’s been relying on lifts and an unreliable bus but she’s just glad she’s got it back now.

Guy is obviously just a strange one or on a bit of a power trip.
Sounds like he has got his Mrs to run the vehicle through the computer to get keeper details to confirm her story.
If you go back and read the first post, the OP stated that the vehicle is leased and she doesn't have the V5C.
Therefore the check would be a waste of time in proving that she was entitled to the key
Furthermore what legitimate reason could the chap's Mrs provide for making it?

Bigends

5,424 posts

129 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Red Devil said:
If you go back and read the first post, the OP stated that the vehicle is leased and she doesn't have the V5C.
Therefore the check would be a waste of time in proving that she was entitled to the key
Furthermore what legitimate reason could the chap's Mrs provide for making it?
Even If the finders wife had a legit reason to carry the check out then she cant disclose the results f that check to him

Chozza

808 posts

153 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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"Sounds like he has got his Mrs to run the vehicle through the computer to get keeper details to confirm her story"

More likely his wife the police officer got home .. he told her what he did expecting her approval AND she told him he was an idiot

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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SlimJim16v said:
funkyrobot said:
I guess this thread proves one thing .....
Don't drop your fking keys!
Having only one key is fking stupid.
Not being able to prove you own/insure/pay for a car within 10minutes when standing in your own house is fking stupid.

Byker28i

60,100 posts

218 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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SlimJim16v said:
Having only one key is fking stupid.
A £1000 car that only comes with one key and with most dealers wanting £250-300 for a second key... I can see reasons

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Byker28i said:
SlimJim16v said:
Having only one key is fking stupid.
A £1000 car that only comes with one key and with most dealers wanting £250-300 for a second key... I can see reasons
What about a leased vehicle. As per the situation in question?

Starfighter

4,930 posts

179 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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I have a lease car and all 3 keys supplies from the factory.

Jasandjules

69,924 posts

230 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Not being funny but Mercedes won't even engage the ME app on my car without me taking proof of ownership.....

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

109 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Jasandjules said:
Not being funny but Mercedes won't even engage the ME app on my car without me taking proof of ownership.....
Yeah, I can see how you might see that as being overkill. I mean, it can only see where you are, send destinations to the sat nav, see whether it's unlocked or locked and actually lock it or unlock it.

Yeah, fk it, hand that access out. Given that it's so trivial that you don't think it warrants any security concerns, can I have your login?

SlimJim16v

5,679 posts

144 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Byker28i said:
SlimJim16v said:
Having only one key is fking stupid.
A £1000 car that only comes with one key and with most dealers wanting £250-300 for a second key... I can see reasons
My £1,250 car only came with 1 key and 1 alarm remote.
Some detective work on that Internet thing and I've bought a used remote from ebay and programmed it into the alarm. Then £80 to Toyota for a new key with chip.

sdiggle

182 posts

91 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Byker28i said:
A £1000 car that only comes with one key and with most dealers wanting £250-300 for a second key... I can see reasons
I bought a 2nd hand Toyota from a Toyota dealer for the wife. Dealer lied about the second key being locked in a drawer or something. The dealer said he would post it out tomorrow and stupidly I left without it. Never turned up. Wouldn't call me back etc...

Contacted Toyota UK and they said no problem. They could send me a new key for £250. Told them that wasn't happening and said I had the orig ad stating car came with 2 keys. I didn't. They said OK and new key turned up in less than a week.

£250 for a Toyota key!! No wonder so many 2nd hand cars come with just 1.

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Friday 20th December 2019
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sdiggle said:
Byker28i said:
A £1000 car that only comes with one key and with most dealers wanting £250-300 for a second key... I can see reasons
I bought a 2nd hand Toyota from a Toyota dealer for the wife. Dealer lied about the second key being locked in a drawer or something. The dealer said he would post it out tomorrow and stupidly I left without it. Never turned up. Wouldn't call me back etc...

Contacted Toyota UK and they said no problem. They could send me a new key for £250. Told them that wasn't happening and said I had the orig ad stating car came with 2 keys. I didn't. They said OK and new key turned up in less than a week.

£250 for a Toyota key!! No wonder so many 2nd hand cars come with just 1.
I wonder how many spare keys end up in lost property, after someone finds them lying in the street?