Another classic case of double standards

[kestral]

yonex said:

Lucky she wasn’t riding a motorcycle?

https://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/18162829.an...

It’s a joke these days. You can freely mow down kids and get a slap on the wrist, yet ride like a loon, and not actually hurt anyone and you get locked up.

Well done all.

If this had been a male he would have gone to prison.

Suspended sentences are no punishment at all. They require one to do wrong again in order to be punished(they are just a let off, an if you do it again)doing wrong the first time was not good enough. Appaling.

[anonymous-user]

kestral said:

If this had been a male he would have gone to prison.

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Sexist BS is sexist BS no matter how you spin it. Read the informed posts above, although that would require you to open your mind to information.

[meatballs]

Breadvan72 said:

Sexist BS is sexist BS no matter how you spin it. Read the informed posts above, although that would require you to open your mind to information.

Don't know the ins and outs of either case but maliciously driving into someone with a vehicle compared to accidental (albeit reckless) driving (biker crash) doesn't seem right to me.

If I swap the car for a knife, in my head, it seems unduly lenient (or undly harsh on the Subaru driver). I don't care about any male v female agenda just comparing two recent cases.

[meatballs]

Breadvan72 said:

Those of you who clamour for jail sentences in motoring cases and various other cases that do not involve things such as rape and other violence - what do you think jail sentences achieve?

Do you not see this as a violent case?

[anonymous-user]

It is, but I was referring more generally to the idea of throwing people in jail for bad driving - my bad for not being clear on that.

[thecremeegg]

Breadvan72 said:

Those of you who clamour for jail sentences in motoring cases and various other cases that do not involve things such as rape and other violence - what do you think jail sentences achieve?

The thread title has, BTW, been pretty comprehensively debunked above. No double standards at all. I wonder will the OP be along to say "Oops, sorry ,my sexist codswallop thread is sexist codswallop"?

I wouldn't say it's been "debunked"? Sure other examples of men getting suspended sentences have been posted but that's not quite the same. Are we not all pretty sure that should the person in the original post have been male and not female that jail time would have been served rather than suspended?

As for the clamouring for jail sentences thing, I'd say most on here are almost the opposite and can't understand why you get sent to jail for driving too fast on a motorway and causing no damage, yet people that crash into others, often causing injury or even worse seem to get away with suspended sentences or community service?

[Roger Irrelevant]

Breadvan72 said:

Looked in expecting that this might be a certain type of familiar PH thread, as we were sort of overdue one in here. Won bet with self.

Am a tad disappointz that no one has said "snakes with tits" yet. Standards are slipping!

I'll own up - I had a similar bet but I wagered it would be about cyclists. Can't win 'em all.

[Graveworm]

thecremeegg said:

Breadvan72 said:

Those of you who clamour for jail sentences in motoring cases and various other cases that do not involve things such as rape and other violence - what do you think jail sentences achieve?

The thread title has, BTW, been pretty comprehensively debunked above. No double standards at all. I wonder will the OP be along to say "Oops, sorry ,my sexist codswallop thread is sexist codswallop"?

I wouldn't say it's been "debunked"? Sure other examples of men getting suspended sentences have been posted but that's not quite the same. Are we not all pretty sure that should the person in the original post have been male and not female that jail time would have been served rather than suspended?

As for the clamouring for jail sentences thing, I'd say most on here are almost the opposite and can't understand why you get sent to jail for driving too fast on a motorway and causing no damage, yet people that crash into others, often causing injury or even worse seem to get away with suspended sentences or community service?

It's a common misconception about suspended sentences. Identical twins both of good character could, be standing in the box alongside one another convicted of equal involvement in the same crime. They should both receive the same prison sentence,. However one could be suspended because of individual circumstances, being a single parent could well change things or employing people who would lose their job. The judge is even supposed to say exactly that. Suspended sentence is only permitted where the custody threshold has been met and is no less severe a punishment than immediate custody.

They can also impose additional requirements like the 200 hours community service, observe a curfew, attend counselling etc failure to do those should also trigger the suspended sentence.

Edited by Graveworm on Friday 17th January 10:59

[Greendubber]

Breadvan72 said:

Those of you who clamour for jail sentences in motoring cases and various other cases that do not involve things such as rape and other violence - what do you think jail sentences achieve?

The thread title has, BTW, been pretty comprehensively debunked above. No double standards at all. I wonder will the OP be along to say "Oops, sorry ,my sexist codswallop thread is sexist codswallop"?

Dont hold your breath.

[anonymous-user]

Breadvan72 said:

Those of you who clamour for jail sentences in motoring cases and various other cases that do not involve things such as rape and other violence - what do you think jail sentences achieve?

The thread title has, BTW, been pretty comprehensively debunked above. No double standards at all. I wonder will the OP be along to say "Oops, sorry ,my sexist codswallop thread is sexist codswallop"?

You’re not the brightest so I’ll try and help.

It’s not been debunked at all. Bikers jailed for 153mph yet this bint tries to kill a couple of kids and gets let off?

What are you struggling with, apart from everything?

[anonymous-user]

yonex said:

Breadvan72 said:

Those of you who clamour for jail sentences in motoring cases and various other cases that do not involve things such as rape and other violence - what do you think jail sentences achieve?

The thread title has, BTW, been pretty comprehensively debunked above. No double standards at all. I wonder will the OP be along to say "Oops, sorry ,my sexist codswallop thread is sexist codswallop"?

You’re not the brightest so I’ll try and help.

It’s not been debunked at all. Bikers jailed for 153mph yet this bint tries to kill a couple of kids and gets let off?

What are you struggling with, apart from everything?

Were the sentencing guidelines applied incorrectly in either case?

In order for there to be a foundation for double standards, that would have to be the case.

[NewUsername]

A lot of this conversation revolves around the supposition that prison is supposed to be punitive. It isn't.

Prison is about protecting the general public and rehabilitation of the offender. If she showed genuine remorse and had good character references as well as the likely impact on her family and the fact her PTSD may be in some way mitigating then what purpose would prison serve here?

[Graveworm]

yonex said:

Breadvan72 said:

Those of you who clamour for jail sentences in motoring cases and various other cases that do not involve things such as rape and other violence - what do you think jail sentences achieve?

The thread title has, BTW, been pretty comprehensively debunked above. No double standards at all. I wonder will the OP be along to say "Oops, sorry ,my sexist codswallop thread is sexist codswallop"?

You’re not the brightest so I’ll try and help.

It’s not been debunked at all. Bikers jailed for 153mph yet this bint tries to kill a couple of kids and gets let off?

What are you struggling with, apart from everything?

The bikers were not jailed for doing 153 they were convicted of dangerous driving over a sustained period from Kent through Sussex into Hastings where they exceeded 180 at times including 130 in a congested forty, wrong side of a keep left into oncoming traffic. There was a collision, wheelies at over a ton, together with undertaking at a zebra, and numerous times on solid whites.
They were sentenced to 10, 6 and 4 months. One of the men's sentences was suspended. He has to do 150 hours unpaid service and is banned for 24 months.
The "Bint" did not get away with it. She was also convicted of dangerous driving which was a single incident that lasted a few seconds.
She was sentenced to 20 months, which was also suspended, she has to do 35 days rehabilitation (which I make about 280 hours) has a 6 month Curfew and is also banned for 2 years.
Yes it's debunked.

Edited by Graveworm on Friday 17th January 14:51

[anonymous-user]

Female drink driver let off by female judge "because she is a woman"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6915387/D...

Drink drive mum spared jail as is would "impact taking the children to school"

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10757849/drink-drivi...

Law does not really apply unless you are a white male.

[anonymous-user]

Always fun to be told I'm none too bright by a person who uses a term such as "bint" to describe a woman. Hey, yonex, what sort of tape do you use to prevent your knuckles getting all scratched up as you walk? Does it get a bit smoky in the cave when there's cooking going on, or are you still at the eat it raw stage? Asking for a friend.

[anonymous-user]

Graveworm said:

The bikers were not jailed for doing 153 they were convicted of dangerous driving over a sustained period from Kent through Sussex into Hastings where they exceeded 180 at times including 130 in a congested forty, wrong side of a keep left into oncoming traffic. There was a collision, wheelies at over a ton, together with undertaking at a zebra, and numerous times on solid whites.
They were sentenced to 10, 6 and 4 months. One of the men's sentences was suspended. He has to do 150 hours unpaid service and is banned for 24 months.
The "Bint" did not get away with it. She was also convicted of dangerous driving which was a single incident that lasted a few seconds.
She was sentenced to 20 months, which was also suspended, she has to do 35 days rehabilitation (which I make about 280 hours) has a 6 month Curfew and is also banned for 2 years.
Yes it's debunked.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 17th January 14:51

Did the bikers set out with the intention to harm pedestrians?

Totally different, she’s way off the scale and should be inside. The boy meanwhile has been left with a fairly mangled foot/leg.

[anonymous-user]

Breadvan72 said:

Always fun to be told I'm none too bright by a person who uses a term such as "bint" to describe a woman. Hey, yonex, what sort of tape do you use to prevent your knuckles getting all scratched up as you walk? Does it get a bit smoky in the cave when there's cooking going on, or are you still at the eat it raw stage? Asking for a friend.

I think called a permatanned runt of a woman ‘bint’ is fair enough given her recent history.

I’m sure you’d be happy with her in your family?

[vonhosen]

Joey Deacon said:

Female drink driver let off by female judge "because she is a woman"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6915387/D...

Drink drive mum spared jail as is would "impact taking the children to school"

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10757849/drink-drivi...

Law does not really apply unless you are a white male.

Are you a white male by chance?

[pavarotti1980]

yonex said:

I think called a permatanned runt of a woman ‘bint’ is fair enough given her recent history.

I’m sure you’d be happy with her in your family?

Does that history include being a victim of domestic violence which then makes her a bint?

What a complete and utter cretin you are

[anonymous-user]

vonhosen said:

Are you a white male by chance?

Are you brainwashed by the law by chance?