Other driver pranged barrier while overtaking.

[anonymous-user]

Red Devil said:

* The collision takes place in the middle of the countryside, not a village.

Point of order, the collision here did not happen 'in a village', unless your definition of in a village is that there is a row of houses adjacent to (but well below and away from) the road where the bus stop is.

I wouldn't have overtaken at that point, as there's a partially obscured entrance to the offside just afterwards and there's too high a chance of something emerging. Otherwise, proceeding with caution past some slow moving/stationary cars stuck behind a bus blocking my lane, no problem with that. Many drivers, for all sorts of reasons, don't wish to take an initiative to pass when they can. I'm sure we've all sat in a queue of traffic behind a tractor where you hit a long, well sighted straight and the lead cars choose not to overtake.

Probably two pieces of bad driving happened here; the 4x4 driver was potentially going too quickly to safely deal with the OP's wife making to cross his path and the OP's wife failed to make proper observation before changing lanes.

Sounds like there's unlikely to be any downside on the OP's side of things, so all's well that ends well (for them).

[Red Devil]

janesmith1950 said:

Red Devil said:

* The collision takes place in the middle of the countryside, not a village.

Point of order, the collision here did not happen 'in a village', unless your definition of in a village is that there is a row of houses adjacent to (but well below and away from) the road where the bus stop is.

OK, will 'on the fringe of' satisfy you?
However, focusing on that misses a far more relevant point. It's an inhabited area (unlike the other video).
https://goo.gl/maps/W7oy3E7P6HH9Cv7y9
https://goo.gl/maps/1Kh613cH4MFyGLTF8
An observant driver would have noted that the turning on the right is a dead end road.
If the bus didn't take it, there is a high probability that there will be a stop somewhere on the main road prior to the village name plate at the other end.
https://goo.gl/maps/JqUCHr9xF1DhMjsf7

janesmith1950 said:

I wouldn't have overtaken at that point, as there's a partially obscured entrance to the offside just afterwards and there's too high a chance of something emerging. Otherwise, proceeding with caution past some slow moving/stationary cars stuck behind a bus blocking my lane, no problem with that. Many drivers, for all sorts of reasons, don't wish to take an initiative to pass when they can. I'm sure we've all sat in a queue of traffic behind a tractor where you hit a long, well sighted straight and the lead cars choose not to overtake.

Agreed. There is no way I would attempt an overtake until after the turning on the right (the village name plate is immediately beyond it).

janesmith1950 said:

Probably two pieces of bad driving happened here; the 4x4 driver was potentially going too quickly to safely deal with the OP's wife making to cross his path and the OP's wife failed to make proper observation before changing lanes.

Split liability: maybe. I think the pickup driver might face an uphill struggle though. Much depends on their position in the queue behind the bus.

janesmith said:

Sounds like there's unlikely to be any downside on the OP's side of things, so all's well that ends well (for them).

Hopefully.

[Paulm4]

Just as a resolution to this, I called the insurance people for an update on this and they have closed the case due to having had no contact from the third party.
I've also bought a dashcam so that things will be more clear cut should something else happen in future.

Thanks for the advice/debate 😁👍