Speed watch group camera type

[nonsequitur]

Bobtherallyfan said:

ValleyRed said:

You overlook the fact that because they are unaccountable they have been known to report some of us even when we weren't speeding, i.e. they are liars.

Why would they do this? My guess is; if they didn't get enough numbers reported they could not justify their existence.

For a record to be officially accepted by the police in our area, it has to be recorded by three separate people, who have to record the make, registration, colour and speed independently. That information has to be submitted with any physical evidence, e.g. use of voice recordings, paper records etc and this are then cross checked with the recording from Speed Indicator Device. In addition, Police officers are often in attendance as a further check to ensure compliance. If any of these records does not tie in, the Police are meant to eliminate the record to ensure compliance.
I’ve lost count of the number of motorists who claim they weren’t speeding, get abusive and then go very quiet when a Police officer embedded with us confirms the speed. They’ve not even noticed a police are parked next to us...that’s how unobservant some idiots are.

On a quick look through, the speed awareness operatives have it. Most other posts are speculation or insults. (unofficial poll).

[anonymous-user]

Dont like rolls said:

Then keep to the speed limit, even you could do something that simple. (Not as if it is as complicated as a square hole and a square brick is it)

Maybe you should be complaining to those tits that are speeding and generating the problem ?

You should join a speedwatch group

[poo at Paul's]

yonex said:

So a bunch of non qualified beards were actually allowed to talk to school kids, unbelievable. No wonder driving is dying out. The funny thing is these same types will be holding up traffic and generally getting in the way in their Honda Jazz’s and Prious’s. My opinion is if you want to be a traffic cop you should do just that. These people have just got fk all better to do with their time, gives them a bit of a power trip to wield a speed gun, all a bit pathetic really.

How do you mean "non qualified"? They are trained and accredited by Police.

It makes no sense to be riled by these people, they are not stopping you or anyone doing anything at all. If you or other people what to drive past them at 80mph, you can do, they wont stop you, and you wont get a ticket as a result. Of course, based on the fact that most people they "catch" are doing 35 to 40 mph, and most of them are not meaning to, just not paying attention, I think most people are quite glad to get a letter, surely better than the alternative of getting a £100 fine by being caught by a camera van?

I suspect you don't do much in your community, grow a beard, it may get you out and about amongst your fellow residents a bit more.

[nonsequitur]

yonex said:

Dont like rolls said:

Then keep to the speed limit, even you could do something that simple. (Not as if it is as complicated as a square hole and a square brick is it)

Maybe you should be complaining to those tits that are speeding and generating the problem ?

You should join a speedwatch group

Time to renew YOUR membership, yonno.

[anonymous-user]

Dont like rolls said:

Go away you nob....

Shut up, snowflake

[anonymous-user]

nonsequitur said:

Time to renew YOUR membership, yonno.

I'd love to join them on their nightly quest to change the world. Trouble is, I doubt my common sense thinking would work with the old duffers.

[rscott]

ValleyRed said:

Bobtherallyfan said:

Let’s face it, if you miss a group of people standing on the side of the road wearing high viz jackets, in full view and are caught speeding, you shouldn’t be driving because you are certifiably blind

You overlook the fact that because they are unaccountable they have been known to report some of us even when we weren't speeding, i.e. they are liars.

Why would they do this? My guess is; if they didn't get enough numbers reported they could not justify their existence.

Your guess would be wrong, in Essex anyway. The police are happiest when they have zero reports from the CSW teams.

The other group, who can collect evidence for prosecutions, use a TruCam which captures the offence on video.

[anonymous-user]

Dont like rolls said:

Go away you nob....

1415 posts in 3 months, are you a banned former member or just a bit tragic?

[anonymous-user]

Dont like rolls said:

Take a hint as has been given before, go away troll.

Troll, says the individual with a ridiculous post count. Who were you pre-ban I wonder?

[anonymous-user]

Dont like rolls said:

What contribution are you making to this thread with this please ?

Contribute or bugger off...no more from me 2 you.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 26th January 23:04

Well, that's my night ruined

And ps off trying to police the forum, you've just blown in....

[KungFuPanda]

Bobtherallyfan said:

ValleyRed said:

You overlook the fact that because they are unaccountable they have been known to report some of us even when we weren't speeding, i.e. they are liars.

Why would they do this? My guess is; if they didn't get enough numbers reported they could not justify their existence.

For a record to be officially accepted by the police in our area, it has to be recorded by three separate people, who have to record the make, registration, colour and speed independently. That information has to be submitted with any physical evidence, e.g. use of voice recordings, paper records etc and this are then cross checked with the recording from Speed Indicator Device. In addition, Police officers are often in attendance as a further check to ensure compliance. If any of these records does not tie in, the Police are meant to eliminate the record to ensure compliance.
I’ve lost count of the number of motorists who claim they weren’t speeding, get abusive and then go very quiet when a Police officer embedded with us confirms the speed. They’ve not even noticed a police are parked next to us...that’s how unobservant some idiots are.

If Police officers are often there to check for compliance, why don’t the Police officers just stay there on their own and do their own fking job without the unwanted intervention of civilian cock wombles then?

[Martin-G]

So three letters to the registered keeper and a hobby bobby knocks on your door. Don’t you just shrug and ask him/her who the driver was?

[rscott]

KungFuPanda said:

Bobtherallyfan said:

ValleyRed said:

You overlook the fact that because they are unaccountable they have been known to report some of us even when we weren't speeding, i.e. they are liars.

Why would they do this? My guess is; if they didn't get enough numbers reported they could not justify their existence.

For a record to be officially accepted by the police in our area, it has to be recorded by three separate people, who have to record the make, registration, colour and speed independently. That information has to be submitted with any physical evidence, e.g. use of voice recordings, paper records etc and this are then cross checked with the recording from Speed Indicator Device. In addition, Police officers are often in attendance as a further check to ensure compliance. If any of these records does not tie in, the Police are meant to eliminate the record to ensure compliance.
I’ve lost count of the number of motorists who claim they weren’t speeding, get abusive and then go very quiet when a Police officer embedded with us confirms the speed. They’ve not even noticed a police are parked next to us...that’s how unobservant some idiots are.

If Police officers are often there to check for compliance, why don’t the Police officers just stay there on their own and do their own fking job without the unwanted intervention of civilian cock wombles then?

Because there are so few police now that they can't be out there as often as needed and the volunteer groups are useful for determining where the limited police resources can be most effectively deployed.

[rscott]

Dont like rolls said:

Is not education and "advice" (eg a Don't be naughty again" letter) rather than a ticket/fine/points a better way to teach drivers not to speed ? That is what you will get if you wish for the Police to be there.

It is called looking after/protecting your community, something that is important to people who live in villages but seems lost to those from even the smallest of towns.

In some areas, maybe. In others (like the part of Essex I'm in) the volunteer groups can collect evidence suitable for prosecutions.

Edited by chris.mod on Monday 27th January 15:34

[jeffreywoodham]

yonex said:

Troll, says the individual with a ridiculous post count. Who were you pre-ban I wonder?

Ridiculous post count. Have you looked at yours recently. Do you ever go out?

[nonsequitur]

This thread is similar to the 'Walt' thread. Lambasting easy targets, speculation plus insults.

[KungFuPanda]

rscott said:

KungFuPanda said:

Bobtherallyfan said:

ValleyRed said:

You overlook the fact that because they are unaccountable they have been known to report some of us even when we weren't speeding, i.e. they are liars.

Why would they do this? My guess is; if they didn't get enough numbers reported they could not justify their existence.

For a record to be officially accepted by the police in our area, it has to be recorded by three separate people, who have to record the make, registration, colour and speed independently. That information has to be submitted with any physical evidence, e.g. use of voice recordings, paper records etc and this are then cross checked with the recording from Speed Indicator Device. In addition, Police officers are often in attendance as a further check to ensure compliance. If any of these records does not tie in, the Police are meant to eliminate the record to ensure compliance.
I’ve lost count of the number of motorists who claim they weren’t speeding, get abusive and then go very quiet when a Police officer embedded with us confirms the speed. They’ve not even noticed a police are parked next to us...that’s how unobservant some idiots are.

If Police officers are often there to check for compliance, why don’t the Police officers just stay there on their own and do their own fking job without the unwanted intervention of civilian cock wombles then?

Because there are so few police now that they can't be out there as often as needed and the volunteer groups are useful for determining where the limited police resources can be most effectively deployed.

Good point, well made.

[martinbiz]

Paul Dishman said:

apparently a special constable get sent around. Now, that's a conversation I'd enjoy having.

Would it be different to the one you'd have with a regular constable then?

[paulrockliffe]

Martin-G said:

So three letters to the registered keeper and a hobby bobby knocks on your door. Don’t you just shrug and ask him/her who the driver was?

Exactly. I don't have an issue with this sort of thing in principle, but the execution is pretty terrible.

In our area the police will issue a letter addressed to the Registered Keeper, regardless of who was driving. The letter states that the registered keeper was observed driving at whatever speed at whatever time at whatever location and that this is an offence etc etc, however on this occasions etc etc, but pack it in.

There's no acknowledgement that the accusation has no evidence to support it because the Police have no idea who was driving, it comes across very unprofessionally and is a poor reflection on the work the Police do. I've sent them back before and asked them to forward it on to the driver, which has probably got me put on some list or other.

[Paul Dishman]

martinbiz said:

Would it be different to the one you'd have with a regular constable then?

Yes, indeed it would