Speed watch group camera type

Speed watch group camera type

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Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Trevor555 said:
Paul, I was a special for 16 years.

No one ever gave me a hard time for being a Special.

I think you should re evaluate your thoughts.

Ps. If you want to PM me that's fine, I'll explain all of the training they do, the PDP programme they have to do whilst with a fellow officer etc..

Oh, and by the way, I saved more than one persons life.


Edited by Trevor555 on Tuesday 4th February 16:08
Thank you Trevor, I appreciate the offer. But no thanks.

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Bobtherallyfan said:
Actually in Devon & Cornwall you don’t get three chances. If you get reported twice by a Speedwatch group your details are automatically passed to speed enforcement officers. If you then get caught speeding you will get a fixed penalty notice or court summons. So no hobby bobby.
Have you a link for that?

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Red 4 said:
What if they sent round a regular officer who was fresh out of training school and looked about 12 ?
Would you also have a problem with him/ her ?

The special wouldn't be investigating you for a complex fraud offence or multiple murders.
It's words of advice for excess speed. I'm not sure why you have such a problem with this.

How about if you were being assaulted and a special came to your aid ?
Would you tell them to go away and say that only regular officers were worthy of helping you ?
I'd treat people the way they treated me and I'd put forward my point of view. If I didn't like the way I was spoken to, then I'd show them the door and tell them to leave. I think that's reasonable and I'd apply that to a regular as well as a special.

martinbiz

3,086 posts

145 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Paul Dishman said:
I think that's reasonable and I'd apply that to a regular as well as a special.
That isn’t what you said earlier though is it, the discussion started because of your assertion that you would be having a different conversations dependent upon whether you were visited by a Special or a regular

Bobtherallyfan

1,269 posts

78 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Paul Dishman said:
Have you a link for that?
https://www.devon-cornwall.police.uk/advice/on-the-road/speed-watch/

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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martinbiz said:
Paul Dishman said:
I think that's reasonable and I'd apply that to a regular as well as a special.
That isn’t what you said earlier though is it, the discussion started because of your assertion that you would be having a different conversations dependent upon whether you were visited by a Special or a regular
That's still true. The conversation would obviously depend on who visited.

Edited by Paul Dishman on Wednesday 5th February 12:26

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Bobtherallyfan said:
Paul Dishman said:
Have you a link for that?
https://www.devon-cornwall.police.uk/advice/on-the-road/speed-watch/
That's cleverly worded. They wouldn't be able to prosecute just on Community Speedwatch volunteer evidence, although they imply that.

"Persistent offenders that ignore the warnings will not receive any further letters, but will be given a fixed penalty ticket or summonsed to court should the circumstances allow"

But only if caught by a police officer.

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Bobtherallyfan said:
Someone had a bad day? The fact is Speedwatch groups can make a difference in their community and do. In my village, speeding has dropped by 20%. The group was formed after a Parish consultation and consists of a number of petrolheads, ex policemen and the like, who just happen to think that 30mph is plenty fast enough to drive through a small village with no pavements.
Where's that?

Bobtherallyfan

1,269 posts

78 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Paul Dishman said:
Where's that?
New Forest with it’s free roaming ponies, cattle, sheep and pigs......plus us locals

martinbiz

3,086 posts

145 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Paul Dishman said:
But only if caught by a police officer.
Errrr no, not just if caught by a police officer

Shall we all stop feeding the troll now

BertBert

19,059 posts

211 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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martinbiz said:
Paul Dishman said:
But only if caught by a police officer.
Errrr no, not just if caught by a police officer
Out of interest, how does it work in practice? How is the identity of the driver established and what evidence is used for the speeding offence?
Bert