E Scooters soon to be allowed on UK roads?

[croyde]

Thinking more about my costly use of one in Liverpool the other night.

Surely the government should be encouraging walking. I can't imagine an escooter being used for more than a mile or so.

There were far too many whizzing through the pedestrianised shopping centre, some two up, no warning and silent.

Odd that those in charge don't want anyone to catch a flu like bug and have destroyed the economy and lives to do so, yet are happy to encourage idiots to drive amongst pedestrians whilst unlicensed and uninsured.

There was one guy at Albert Dock on a privately owned one going at at least 20mph, scattering people like bowling pins.
Monster it was and boy! did it accelerate.

[pincher]

croyde said:

There were far too many whizzing through the pedestrianised shopping centre, some two up, no warning and silent.

eScooter and bicycle are interchangeable here...

[the tribester]

croyde said:

Thinking more about my costly use of one in Liverpool the other night.

Surely the government should be encouraging walking. I can't imagine an escooter being used for more than a mile or so.

There were far too many whizzing through the pedestrianised shopping centre, some two up, no warning and silent.

Odd that those in charge don't want anyone to catch a flu like bug and have destroyed the economy and lives to do so, yet are happy to encourage idiots to drive amongst pedestrians whilst unlicensed and uninsured.

There was one guy at Albert Dock on a privately owned one going at at least 20mph, scattering people like bowling pins.
Monster it was and boy! did it accelerate.

Now imagine it's time for school, and 300 kids are e-scooting it to the school gates.

[okgo]

the tribester said:

Now imagine it's time for school, and 300 kids are e-scooting it to the school gates.

Better than the 300 cars that probably turn up now, though.

[bigothunter]

okgo said:

the tribester said:

Now imagine it's time for school, and 300 kids are e-scooting it to the school gates.

Better than the 300 cars that probably turn up now, though.

Replaced by a queue of ambulances

[jimbobs]

h0b0 said:

Surely we can look at Boris bikes as an example of what would happen if scooters were made legal. Are the Boris bikes financially viable or massively subsidized?

My journey to work on a hire scooter costs about £1.20. On the basis that I’m unlikely to be in the office 5 days a week in the future, and sometimes I enjoy the walk, it will take a substantial drop in the price of e-scooters to make it worth buying one.

[monthou]

bigothunter said:

okgo said:

the tribester said:

Now imagine it's time for school, and 300 kids are e-scooting it to the school gates.

Better than the 300 cars that probably turn up now, though.

Replaced by a queue of ambulances

Because being hit by a car doesn't hurt?

[untakenname]

When we have the same amount of e-scooters as cars then comparisons can be made.

Say someone in the wrong hits a private e-scooterist would the fact the e-scooter is uninsured and unlicensed mean they couldn't claim compensation from the car owner?

Clip here of a cyclist going into one, even though the cyclist was at fault it looks like the scooterist doesn't stop
https://youtu.be/8mgSufSWk8k

[monthou]

untakenname said:

When we have the same amount of e-scooters as cars then comparisons can be made.

Or, alternatively, comparisons can be made right now. Because the above makes no sense at all.

[andburg]

might have been posted but saw somebody on the road with something like this the other day.

https://viperscooters.com/product/viper-evoking-du...

I just dont get it, its expensive, large and weighs >40kg so not exactly fold and carry into the office material.

[bigothunter]

monthou said:

bigothunter said:

okgo said:

the tribester said:

Now imagine it's time for school, and 300 kids are e-scooting it to the school gates.

Better than the 300 cars that probably turn up now, though.

Replaced by a queue of ambulances

Because being hit by a car doesn't hurt?

How would you quantify risk of 300 parents driving their children to school compared to 300 kids riding e-scooters to school?

[RizzoTheRat]

andburg said:

might have been posted but saw somebody on the road with something like this the other day.

https://viperscooters.com/product/viper-evoking-du...

I just dont get it, its expensive, large and weighs >40kg so not exactly fold and carry into the office material.

A lot smaller and easier to park/store than a moped and less effort than an e-bike though.

However presumably for that to road legal in the UK as claimed on that site it needs an MoT, insurance, number plate, helmet and presumably CBT/licence as it would be classed as a moped wouldn't it? Making an E-bike a hell of lot less hassle.

[andburg]

RizzoTheRat said:

A lot smaller and easier to park/store than a moped and less effort than an e-bike though.

However presumably for that to road legal in the UK as claimed on that site it needs an MoT, insurance, number plate, helmet and presumably CBT/licence as it would be classed as a moped wouldn't it? Making an E-bike a hell of lot less hassle.

exactly, cant imagine getting insurance for that would be simple.

[bigothunter]

andburg said:

RizzoTheRat said:

A lot smaller and easier to park/store than a moped and less effort than an e-bike though.

However presumably for that to road legal in the UK as claimed on that site it needs an MoT, insurance, number plate, helmet and presumably CBT/licence as it would be classed as a moped wouldn't it? Making an E-bike a hell of lot less hassle.

exactly, cant imagine getting insurance for that would be simple.

Especially as the safety of e-scooters is questionable

Graveworm said:

https://etsc.eu/austrian-warnings-over-e-scooter-s...

[anonymous-user]

bigothunter said:

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Especially as the safety of e-scooters is questionable

I have absolutely no doubt that e-scooters are more dangerous than walking, driving a car, and probably cycling.

But their sheer practicality, convenience, and low cost will mean that they will likely feature as part of our urban transport landscape, irrespective of what any of us think about them.

[Psycho Warren]

True LM but there may be a lot of carnage initially while drivers learn to dodge them and Darwin Awards eliminate the suicidal scooter riders.

[monthou]

bigothunter said:

How would you quantify risk of 300 parents driving their children to school compared to 300 kids riding e-scooters to school?

You've apparently already done it. Care to share?

[bigothunter]

monthou said:

bigothunter said:

How would you quantify risk of 300 parents driving their children to school compared to 300 kids riding e-scooters to school?

You've apparently already done it. Care to share?

Perhaps schools should run an experiment to establish real casualty figures?

[monthou]

bigothunter said:

monthou said:

bigothunter said:

How would you quantify risk of 300 parents driving their children to school compared to 300 kids riding e-scooters to school?

You've apparently already done it. Care to share?

Perhaps schools should run an experiment to establish real casualty figures?

That's a no then - just an idiotic comment re ambulances.

[bigothunter]

monthou said:

bigothunter said:

monthou said:

bigothunter said:

How would you quantify risk of 300 parents driving their children to school compared to 300 kids riding e-scooters to school?

You've apparently already done it. Care to share?

Perhaps schools should run an experiment to establish real casualty figures?

That's a no then - just an idiotic comment re ambulances.

Some people are incapable of seeing the obvious

Some are incapable of decent manners too