E Scooters soon to be allowed on UK roads?

E Scooters soon to be allowed on UK roads?

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dacouch

1,172 posts

129 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Couple of Police on cycles stopping scooter riders on the segregated cycle lane on Embankment today as I drove past

untakenname

4,970 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Seeing a lot of kids commuting into school via the pavements on e scooters, not sure why the schools are allowing this as if there's an accident then they will be complicit for allowing them to be used and stored on site.

There's a clip being shared on whatsapp of someone fleeing from the Police when they realised that their escooter was being confiscated today, they managed to get away.


Also today there's a high profile victim of an e-scooter hit and run https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5748...



anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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untakenname said:
Seeing a lot of kids commuting into school via the pavements on e scooters, not sure why the schools are allowing this as if there's an accident then they will be complicit for allowing them to be used and stored on site.

There's a clip being shared on whatsapp of someone fleeing from the Police when they realised that their escooter was being confiscated today, they managed to get away.


Also today there's a high profile victim of an e-scooter hit and run https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5748...
The bit about school kids commuting on them does surprise me, as when I was at school, the school would pretty much dictate stuff we did outside school never mind inside school, especially with anything that carried a risk or could reflect badly on them.

When I started driving to school in 6th form, the school wanted to see our driving licenses before we were allowed to drive ourselves to school and back. They had a car park for pupils, and we all had to leave our keys hanging up in a certain place when we arrived so that the school had ‘control’ over when we used our cars and made sure we weren’t messing around with them, or driving off the school grounds during the school day.

Before pupils could be carried as passengers in the cars of other pupils, their parents had to give permission, and so on.

Surely these kids must be storing their e-scooters off the school grounds? The schools can’t possibly be allowing them to ride them onto the property and store them? That is quite literally enabling the students to commit an offence.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 16th June 09:27

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
When I started driving to school in 6th form, the school wanted to see our driving licenses before we were allowed to drive ourselves to school and back. They had a car park for pupils, and we all had to leave our keys hanging up in a certain place when we arrived so that the school had ‘control’ over when we used our cars and made sure we weren’t messing around with them, or driving off the school grounds during the school day.
Back in the days when you wouldn't get a parent charging in to school and threatening to assault a teacher for telling their child to put their phone away

Fishlegs

2,989 posts

139 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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untakenname said:
Also today there's a high profile victim of an e-scooter hit and run https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5748...
Was it? I haven't read anywhere that it was an e-scooter. It just says scooter in all the news I've read. Could have be a petrol scooter, or less likely an push-powered scooter. Or much less likely, a German techno DJ called Scooter.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

257 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Fishlegs said:
Was it? I haven't read anywhere that it was an e-scooter. It just says scooter in all the news I've read. Could have be a petrol scooter, or less likely an push-powered scooter. Or much less likely, a German techno DJ called Scooter.
Or the character from The Muppets.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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jakesmith said:
Lord Marylebone said:
When I started driving to school in 6th form, the school wanted to see our driving licenses before we were allowed to drive ourselves to school and back. They had a car park for pupils, and we all had to leave our keys hanging up in a certain place when we arrived so that the school had ‘control’ over when we used our cars and made sure we weren’t messing around with them, or driving off the school grounds during the school day.
Back in the days when you wouldn't get a parent charging in to school and threatening to assault a teacher for telling their child to put their phone away
Indeed. It was the other way round. The school would give the pupil a telling off, the school would then speak to the parents, who would then administer an additional telling off to the pupil.

If the school asked the parents to attend a ‘discussion’ between them and the pupil, then you knew you were in really deep st if that happened to you!

The two worst punishments at my school were ‘asked to leave’ or simply expelled. If you were asked to leave, the school usually gave you until the end of that term to find a new school, to save the blemish of expelled being applied to you.

I left school in 1999, so it isn’t like we are talking about a million years ago either.

okgo

38,057 posts

198 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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I started when you left and that driving license stuff sounds weird and pretty old school. No such thing at my college.

lost in espace

6,164 posts

207 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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My daughter's college in St Albans have banned them from their grounds. Must have been a convincing threat I used to see a lot of them, now gone.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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lost in espace said:
My daughter's college in St Albans have banned them from their grounds. Must have been a convincing threat I used to see a lot of them, now gone.
I imagine if they aren’t allowed to ride/park them on college grounds, then that’s the end of them, as they can’t leave them chained up somewhere outside the grounds because they wouldn’t last a day without being pinched.

That isn’t a slur on St Albans either, it’s just a general observation regarding most places of a reasonable size.

okgo

38,057 posts

198 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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lost in espace said:
My daughter's college in St Albans have banned them from their grounds. Must have been a convincing threat I used to see a lot of them, now gone.
They don't want to be sued for someone grazing their knee.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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okgo said:
lost in espace said:
My daughter's college in St Albans have banned them from their grounds. Must have been a convincing threat I used to see a lot of them, now gone.
They don't want to be sued for someone grazing their knee.
Whilst there may be some H&S considerations in there somewhere, it is more likely that they don’t want to allow or encourage methods of transport that are currently illegal (provided it is mostly privately owned scooters that the students are using to get to college).

I’m a supporter of e-scooters, but I can totally see why a college would ban students from using them as transport while they remain illegal.

okgo

38,057 posts

198 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Yes of course, it will be an insurance thing. Not because they give a st.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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okgo said:
Yes of course, it will be an insurance thing. Not because they give a st.
Absolutely.

They won’t give a toss, but have to be seen to be doing the ‘right thing’, whatever that is.

When I first went to Uni, all us freshers were gathered in a hall in various batches, and given a lecture on all the stuff we weren’t allowed to do on campus, and what was illegal, and how we could end up dead if we messed about with drugs and stuff.

They clearly didn’t care, but felt like they had to tell us anyway.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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I used to love nipping u the supermarket on my e-scooter, 10 mins on private estates mainly, lovely, felt so free & fun.
Go in my R8 now, uses nearly a gallon of fuel for the round trip. Laughable.l

Toltec

7,159 posts

223 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
Absolutely.

They won’t give a toss, but have to be seen to be doing the ‘right thing’, whatever that is.

When I first went to Uni, all us freshers were gathered in a hall in various batches, and given a lecture on all the stuff we weren’t allowed to do on campus, and what was illegal, and how we could end up dead if we messed about with drugs and stuff.

They clearly didn’t care, but felt like they had to tell us anyway.
Of course they care, they won't get your money if you are dead.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Toltec said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Absolutely.

They won’t give a toss, but have to be seen to be doing the ‘right thing’, whatever that is.

When I first went to Uni, all us freshers were gathered in a hall in various batches, and given a lecture on all the stuff we weren’t allowed to do on campus, and what was illegal, and how we could end up dead if we messed about with drugs and stuff.

They clearly didn’t care, but felt like they had to tell us anyway.
Of course they care, they won't get your money if you are dead.
Good point.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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I went to Oslo 2 years ago and they were everywhere but only on pavements as I could tell.
No problem at all, probably because they don’t have the British arrogance that only they matter and everyone else can f*** themselves.
They uniformly gave way to pedestrians and everyone got along fine.

eccles

13,740 posts

222 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Fishlegs said:
untakenname said:
Also today there's a high profile victim of an e-scooter hit and run https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5748...
Was it? I haven't read anywhere that it was an e-scooter. It just says scooter in all the news I've read. Could have be a petrol scooter, or less likely an push-powered scooter. Or much less likely, a German techno DJ called Scooter.
Guess you need to read more then....

https://www.aol.co.uk/entertainment/lisa-banes-gon...

untakenname

4,970 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Yeah, I assumed it was an e-scooter as if it was a normal one they would call it a motorbike.

Looks like the Police are now taking it seriously by crushing them and not handing them back to the owner once the fines been paid, wonder if the WEEE directive for e-waste applies to seized items?