E Scooters soon to be allowed on UK roads?
Discussion
Taita said:
Bird, Lime and Grab all work fine overseas in similar town setups and traffic density to us.
We just need to accept a bit of risk and accidents, the idiots will soon work it out.
It's a very British thing to have rules for everything.
I so agree with you.We just need to accept a bit of risk and accidents, the idiots will soon work it out.
It's a very British thing to have rules for everything.
I just left Vietnam this week and I was marvelling at how they can ride in all directions at a busy junction, and avoid each other whilst giving way and getting in the way, and no one gets angry.
Wondering why there are no arguments my other half replied " its because there are no rules. No rules to argue about and feel indignant about when they are broken. The English at home love rules, and arguing about them". I agreed.
RogerDodger said:
I so agree with you.
I just left Vietnam this week and I was marvelling at how they can ride in all directions at a busy junction, and avoid each other whilst giving way and getting in the way, and no one gets angry.
Wondering why there are no arguments my other half replied " its because there are no rules. No rules to argue about and feel indignant about when they are broken. The English at home love rules, and arguing about them". I agreed.
Now I have accepted that there are no rules for driving in London these days, I am much more chilled out. I just left Vietnam this week and I was marvelling at how they can ride in all directions at a busy junction, and avoid each other whilst giving way and getting in the way, and no one gets angry.
Wondering why there are no arguments my other half replied " its because there are no rules. No rules to argue about and feel indignant about when they are broken. The English at home love rules, and arguing about them". I agreed.
No longer do I go puce with rage when I almost get taken out by some one pulling out on me whilst I'm hacking along on my motorbike.
It does seem that more and more people see you, wait until you are metres away, then pull out.
Lots of fun in the current wet, dark and cold commuter conditions
It now reminds me of driving in the third world and seeing situations as mentioned above.
croyde said:
Now I have accepted that there are no rules for driving in London these days, I am much more chilled out.
No longer do I go puce with rage when I almost get taken out by some one pulling out on me whilst I'm hacking along on my motorbike.
It does seem that more and more people see you, wait until you are metres away, then pull out.
Lots of fun in the current wet, dark and cold commuter conditions
It now reminds me of driving in the third world and seeing situations as mentioned above.
Absolutely right, in London I think you have to accept that there are no "rules". I did an advanced police motorcycle course thing years ago and when I told the instructor that I commuted into London he said "You can forget most of the stuff that I'm going to teach you then, most important point is to keep alive".No longer do I go puce with rage when I almost get taken out by some one pulling out on me whilst I'm hacking along on my motorbike.
It does seem that more and more people see you, wait until you are metres away, then pull out.
Lots of fun in the current wet, dark and cold commuter conditions
It now reminds me of driving in the third world and seeing situations as mentioned above.
Good example is using indicators all the time, something quite sensibly taught to you as a motorcyclist so that others around you know what you intend doing. In the urban environment I find it's more useful sowing a bit of doubt in everyone's mind around you. Don't filter up the middle of 2 lanes, or close to an outside lane when you can use the whole of the opposing oncoming carriage way when clear, cyle boxes, fair game, the list goes on.
stu67 said:
croyde said:
Now I have accepted that there are no rules for driving in London these days, I am much more chilled out.
No longer do I go puce with rage when I almost get taken out by some one pulling out on me whilst I'm hacking along on my motorbike.
It does seem that more and more people see you, wait until you are metres away, then pull out.
Lots of fun in the current wet, dark and cold commuter conditions
It now reminds me of driving in the third world and seeing situations as mentioned above.
Absolutely right, in London I think you have to accept that there are no "rules". I did an advanced police motorcycle course thing years ago and when I told the instructor that I commuted into London he said "You can forget most of the stuff that I'm going to teach you then, most important point is to keep alive".No longer do I go puce with rage when I almost get taken out by some one pulling out on me whilst I'm hacking along on my motorbike.
It does seem that more and more people see you, wait until you are metres away, then pull out.
Lots of fun in the current wet, dark and cold commuter conditions
It now reminds me of driving in the third world and seeing situations as mentioned above.
Good example is using indicators all the time, something quite sensibly taught to you as a motorcyclist so that others around you know what you intend doing. In the urban environment I find it's more useful sowing a bit of doubt in everyone's mind around you. Don't filter up the middle of 2 lanes, or close to an outside lane when you can use the whole of the opposing oncoming carriage way when clear, cyle boxes, fair game, the list goes on.
croyde said:
Who pays when one causes an accident.
I had a near miss the other day when one shot out in front of me and I had to swerve to avoid.
At night, guy in black, no lights..........
When it comes to bicycles, e-bikes and such like being ridden in the dark, with no lights on, car/van/lorry/bus drivers should have the legal right to just run them down!I had a near miss the other day when one shot out in front of me and I had to swerve to avoid.
At night, guy in black, no lights..........
Evolution has decreed that if creatures are too stupid to protect themselves, then they should die.
By failing to run down these idiots with no lights on their bikes in the dark, we are letting evolution down, allowing them to breed, and create a new generation of even more stupid idiots!
By running them down, we enrich the gene pool, because only smart people will be around to create the next generation.
RogerDodger said:
I so agree with you.
I just left Vietnam this week and I was marvelling at how they can ride in all directions at a busy junction, and avoid each other whilst giving way and getting in the way, and no one gets angry.
Wondering why there are no arguments my other half replied " its because there are no rules. No rules to argue about and feel indignant about when they are broken. The English at home love rules, and arguing about them". I agreed.
They've never had rules, so have grown up to not need them and have developed road sense for that environment.I just left Vietnam this week and I was marvelling at how they can ride in all directions at a busy junction, and avoid each other whilst giving way and getting in the way, and no one gets angry.
Wondering why there are no arguments my other half replied " its because there are no rules. No rules to argue about and feel indignant about when they are broken. The English at home love rules, and arguing about them". I agreed.
We have rules, and we've all grown up with them, which is why it's so annoying when you get idiots who don't think they apply to them.
eccles said:
RogerDodger said:
I so agree with you.
I just left Vietnam this week and I was marvelling at how they can ride in all directions at a busy junction, and avoid each other whilst giving way and getting in the way, and no one gets angry.
Wondering why there are no arguments my other half replied " its because there are no rules. No rules to argue about and feel indignant about when they are broken. The English at home love rules, and arguing about them". I agreed.
They've never had rules, so have grown up to not need them and have developed road sense for that environment.I just left Vietnam this week and I was marvelling at how they can ride in all directions at a busy junction, and avoid each other whilst giving way and getting in the way, and no one gets angry.
Wondering why there are no arguments my other half replied " its because there are no rules. No rules to argue about and feel indignant about when they are broken. The English at home love rules, and arguing about them". I agreed.
We have rules, and we've all grown up with them, which is why it's so annoying when you get idiots who don't think they apply to them.
Trials and potential legalisation of E-Scooters are apparently going to be ‘fast tracked’ in the UK, to give commuters an alternative to being ‘crammed’ onto public transport, and hopefully lessen the risk of spreading Coronavirus.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-e-s...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-e-s...
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 9th May 09:59
Fast-tracked makes it sound like something that requires a lot of effort. I reckon I could probably smash out the required legislation in an afternoon with a find and replace of e-bike law.
In the meantime the law has no practical relevance, I've been using mine for over a year, the police didn't care then and I doubt they will now.
In the meantime the law has no practical relevance, I've been using mine for over a year, the police didn't care then and I doubt they will now.
Lord Marylebone said:
Trials and potential legalisation of E-Scooters are apparently going to be ‘fast tracked’ in the UK, to give computers an alternative to being ‘crammed’ onto public transport, and hopefully lessen the risk of spreading Coronavirus.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-e-s...
Pretty sure coronavirus isn't a computer virus! https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-e-s...
A Winner Is You said:
eccles said:
RogerDodger said:
I so agree with you.
I just left Vietnam this week and I was marvelling at how they can ride in all directions at a busy junction, and avoid each other whilst giving way and getting in the way, and no one gets angry.
Wondering why there are no arguments my other half replied " its because there are no rules. No rules to argue about and feel indignant about when they are broken. The English at home love rules, and arguing about them". I agreed.
They've never had rules, so have grown up to not need them and have developed road sense for that environment.I just left Vietnam this week and I was marvelling at how they can ride in all directions at a busy junction, and avoid each other whilst giving way and getting in the way, and no one gets angry.
Wondering why there are no arguments my other half replied " its because there are no rules. No rules to argue about and feel indignant about when they are broken. The English at home love rules, and arguing about them". I agreed.
We have rules, and we've all grown up with them, which is why it's so annoying when you get idiots who don't think they apply to them.
problem is that their road death rate is 8 times ours, and i fear the injury rate could be even higher (few high speed cars but lots of bikes, motos and pedestrians)
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