Inconsiderate neighbourly parking - New restrictions?
Discussion
Welshbeef said:
Have to be honest if someone was doing that to me I’d part the Mrs car opposite our driveway (or Mine) if it was causing such an issue.
I’d also ensure that one car is left there for 2.5 weeks in the summer when we go away for hols or any hols actually so there is no chance of them switching one car in for another
Or I’d actually more likely park one of our cars beside our drive exist on our side of the road. Given OP has stated it’s not wide enough to have 2x Parked cars either side of the road and enough space for cars to drove through this again would force them to park elsewhere. Do it long enough they will get the message
I think this is the appropriate response.I’d also ensure that one car is left there for 2.5 weeks in the summer when we go away for hols or any hols actually so there is no chance of them switching one car in for another
Or I’d actually more likely park one of our cars beside our drive exist on our side of the road. Given OP has stated it’s not wide enough to have 2x Parked cars either side of the road and enough space for cars to drove through this again would force them to park elsewhere. Do it long enough they will get the message
We now park my wife’s car in the short bit of kerbsge on the road adjacent to our driveway as somone in the next road was partially blocking our driveway with his Sprinter sized van every night and all weekend.
I actually thought he might be on here, as one of his responses was that I don’t own the road.
Anyway, he is now somone else’s problem.
I would be looking at the title for the properties to see what covenants and restrictions are there.
Developers often incorporate these into the title to prevent this sort of issue particularly during the development phase but often to help management of the estate following
If there is something there then may be a letter referring to the covenant from a solicitor could carry some weight.
Otherwise, you are probably looking at things like nuisance which is a civil matter and again you would need some legal advice
Developers often incorporate these into the title to prevent this sort of issue particularly during the development phase but often to help management of the estate following
If there is something there then may be a letter referring to the covenant from a solicitor could carry some weight.
Otherwise, you are probably looking at things like nuisance which is a civil matter and again you would need some legal advice
blueg33 said:
I would be looking at the title for the properties to see what covenants and restrictions are there.
Developers often incorporate these into the title to prevent this sort of issue particularly during the development phase but often to help management of the estate following
If there is something there then may be a letter referring to the covenant from a solicitor could carry some weight.
Otherwise, you are probably looking at things like nuisance which is a civil matter and again you would need some legal advice
I suppose it depends on the management company and what covenants are in place however on our development (non-adopted roads) the mgmt company have been quite keen to enforce the restrictions on things like commercial vehicles and parking on the road.Developers often incorporate these into the title to prevent this sort of issue particularly during the development phase but often to help management of the estate following
If there is something there then may be a letter referring to the covenant from a solicitor could carry some weight.
Otherwise, you are probably looking at things like nuisance which is a civil matter and again you would need some legal advice
If the property is shared ownership then the part owner/tenant will be paying a % in rent to a HA, would this mean that they are still subject to a form of tenancy agreement? The HA for the the small number of social houses near us have issued breech of tenancy action for things like this.
Flumpo said:
That’s half of the problem. My in laws have a large Victorian property with plenty of space from the surrounding detached properties.
That hasn’t stopped an extended family of taxi drivers buying and sharing one of these houses. What should be ample parking now has 8 normal taxis, a clapped out mini bus and their personal cars. Although the in-laws have a drive, it’s difficult to get in and out and caused chaos for bin men.
With many new builds the government decided if you restrict spaces you restrict cars. The problem, as with my in-laws, is that people buy houses that don’t suit their needs. In this case parking, throw in a good dollop of self entitlement and lack of respect for others and this is what happens.
Yup! 100% This is basically exactly what it is!That hasn’t stopped an extended family of taxi drivers buying and sharing one of these houses. What should be ample parking now has 8 normal taxis, a clapped out mini bus and their personal cars. Although the in-laws have a drive, it’s difficult to get in and out and caused chaos for bin men.
With many new builds the government decided if you restrict spaces you restrict cars. The problem, as with my in-laws, is that people buy houses that don’t suit their needs. In this case parking, throw in a good dollop of self entitlement and lack of respect for others and this is what happens.
I wonder what on Earth happened to our societies in the last few generations that eroded any kind of sense of common decency, manners and consideration. I know it wasn't always the case but definitely feels like things are getting worse with the self-entitled of the world.
Welshbeef said:
That’s a bloody PITA.
Frankly the route cause of the issue is with the poor planning of the development and all the others simply inadequate parking.
I feel for your neighbour.
The thing is as Julian has asked is it a two way or one way street? If it’s two way and therefore big enough for two cars they are in reality breaking no laws.
Parking their own car over their drive would Roulyally piss them off and I’d wager they may then park so tight to the parking exit (on the side of the road the house is) that getting out would require mounting the kerb in the other side due to no angle to turn.
We live in a street where most people have extended drives with space for 3-4 cars. Anyway our Meighbour doesn’t and instead parks one of his two cars on the road. If it gets busy or someone takes “his spot” as soon as that car moves he’s out getting his car on the road and also his second car onto the road too leaving his drive empty but him keeping “his” two spots.
It used to f
k me right off / before we had our drive extended as he would also park in such a way you could only get two cars instead of three comfortably in the spaces. Anyway drive for 4-5 cars now and have done for a few years not once had parking space worry and instead simply grin when I see the nonsense that he must worry about
It is a two way road. I wonder if nicking one of their parking spots with an unfriendly type of visitor might at least shed some light on what it feels like.Frankly the route cause of the issue is with the poor planning of the development and all the others simply inadequate parking.
I feel for your neighbour.
The thing is as Julian has asked is it a two way or one way street? If it’s two way and therefore big enough for two cars they are in reality breaking no laws.
Parking their own car over their drive would Roulyally piss them off and I’d wager they may then park so tight to the parking exit (on the side of the road the house is) that getting out would require mounting the kerb in the other side due to no angle to turn.
We live in a street where most people have extended drives with space for 3-4 cars. Anyway our Meighbour doesn’t and instead parks one of his two cars on the road. If it gets busy or someone takes “his spot” as soon as that car moves he’s out getting his car on the road and also his second car onto the road too leaving his drive empty but him keeping “his” two spots.
It used to f
k me right off / before we had our drive extended as he would also park in such a way you could only get two cars instead of three comfortably in the spaces. Anyway drive for 4-5 cars now and have done for a few years not once had parking space worry and instead simply grin when I see the nonsense that he must worry about Welshbeef said:
Have to be honest if someone was doing that to me I’d part the Mrs car opposite our driveway (or Mine) if it was causing such an issue.
I’d also ensure that one car is left there for 2.5 weeks in the summer when we go away for hols or any hols actually so there is no chance of them switching one car in for another
Or I’d actually more likely park one of our cars beside our drive exist on our side of the road. Given OP has stated it’s not wide enough to have 2x Parked cars either side of the road and enough space for cars to drove through this again would force them to park elsewhere. Do it long enough they will get the message
I think this could work - but the friendly neighbour guy is being considerate to his own detriment. I have however noticed this week that the car that used to live in their garage is now on the street in the same spot. So I think they've take to a bit of 'reserving' the space for themselves in case difficulty arises, or to make a point.I’d also ensure that one car is left there for 2.5 weeks in the summer when we go away for hols or any hols actually so there is no chance of them switching one car in for another
Or I’d actually more likely park one of our cars beside our drive exist on our side of the road. Given OP has stated it’s not wide enough to have 2x Parked cars either side of the road and enough space for cars to drove through this again would force them to park elsewhere. Do it long enough they will get the message
austinsmirk said:
At a previous house I lived at- it was served by a private road- that 8 of us owned.
except only 5 of us actually had land and parking attached to it.
this didn't stop one women parking on the road- that she had no right too- causing a right paid to the rest of us using this little track. proper entitled mentalist type.
except one old bloke was so blind, when he went out in his car, he kept hitting her car by accident (for comedy value- he once pulled up on the road behind a big yellow lorry. said lorry turned out to be a skip- just his vision couldn't detect it)
and then one neighbour, so p'd off with it when trying to move a project car on a car trailer-just drove the trailer down the side of her car.
some random BF of hers comes to threaten my mate- bad move- he's a massive fit 6' plus rugby captain/player of the year and all that.
so that confrontation didn't last long.
parking wars ended.
I don't think you win here- what'l happen is "someone" needs to keep damaging the cars- but factor in, every council type has cheap CCTV everywhere now
Kind of comical story but I like the happy(ish) ending. Why couldn't she be more considerate? (Again, the question I ask myself of people). No council near us to care to put CCTV up but about 20 houses in the estate have it, including a Ring doorbell on one lady who I recently found out is a Met officer. So that'll liven things up if it comes to fisticuffs.except only 5 of us actually had land and parking attached to it.
this didn't stop one women parking on the road- that she had no right too- causing a right paid to the rest of us using this little track. proper entitled mentalist type.
except one old bloke was so blind, when he went out in his car, he kept hitting her car by accident (for comedy value- he once pulled up on the road behind a big yellow lorry. said lorry turned out to be a skip- just his vision couldn't detect it)
and then one neighbour, so p'd off with it when trying to move a project car on a car trailer-just drove the trailer down the side of her car.
some random BF of hers comes to threaten my mate- bad move- he's a massive fit 6' plus rugby captain/player of the year and all that.
so that confrontation didn't last long.
parking wars ended.
I don't think you win here- what'l happen is "someone" needs to keep damaging the cars- but factor in, every council type has cheap CCTV everywhere now
gottans said:
Does the council house with 4 cars have a drive that somebody dump (park) a car in the same way? What is good for the goose and all that..
No but they do have one allocated space, and I have heard have now negotiated a 2nd space (one of the other residents allowing them kindly to use it).So could be a laugh to dump a car in either one of those whenever they are vacant (about once or twice a day each).
Jonno02 said:
So there's 14 houses cut off knowingly by this family? So ambulances etc can't get up?
I'd be spending £3 on a bottle of brake fluid.
Yeah pretty much.I'd be spending £3 on a bottle of brake fluid.
But I suspect it would immediately set off the old nasty neighbour to assume it was the nice bloke and he'd cause all sorts of trouble for him as a result.
Edited by Mr_Megalomaniac on Wednesday 19th February 11:46
oyster said:
I wonder if one day we’ll look back at episodes like this with astonishment that we stored so much under-utilised machinery.
There’s so much ‘pooling’ of resources elsewhere in our lives that it will become inevitable for cars in our suburban neighbourhoods.
I wonder if we'll look back at these awful, shoe-horned new developments in the same way we do the monstrous, ugly tower blocks and question how decisions were made to try and cram so much into so little space, ignoring the realities of people needing to have cars.There’s so much ‘pooling’ of resources elsewhere in our lives that it will become inevitable for cars in our suburban neighbourhoods.
Funk said:
oyster said:
I wonder if one day we’ll look back at episodes like this with astonishment that we stored so much under-utilised machinery.
There’s so much ‘pooling’ of resources elsewhere in our lives that it will become inevitable for cars in our suburban neighbourhoods.
I wonder if we'll look back at these awful, shoe-horned new developments in the same way we do the monstrous, ugly tower blocks and question how decisions were made to try and cram so much into so little space, ignoring the realities of people needing to have cars.There’s so much ‘pooling’ of resources elsewhere in our lives that it will become inevitable for cars in our suburban neighbourhoods.
This led to dense schemes (all those town houses and limited parking), but a massive restriction on land supply that drove up land prices and meant that in addition to PPG3 developers had to maximise the value of the land, just in order to secure it.
I remember vividly a 200 unit scheme we did in Statford upon Avon. It was mainly 3 and 4 bed houses, but the planners insisted that PPG3 meant that we could only have one parking space per house and a garage counted as a parking space. Go there now and its a nightmare of cars parked on verges etc. I am not proud of it to the extend I tend to look away as I drive past.
One of may main complaints as a developer in the early 2000's was that we were building the slums of the future. Its not what we wanted to do. Pretty much every developer I know wants to be proud of the developments they have done, its their legacy to the country.
One of the new local developments has had the bus service withdrawn because even the small shopper type busses couldn't negotiate the roads .
A combination of street layout like a kids doodle and stupid parking.
They tried it for a while but busses kept getting stuck or bogged on muddy verges.
A combination of street layout like a kids doodle and stupid parking.
They tried it for a while but busses kept getting stuck or bogged on muddy verges.
PAULJ5555 said:
Where do they park when someone else parks in that place.
Good question - usually most others have the sense not to, in the few rare occasions someone else is there, I have seen them just park further in front on the grass (the grass that is supposed to be maintained by the estate. I won't even go into the discussion regarding whether or not they're liable in case of damage, etc.)
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