Inconsiderate neighbourly parking - New restrictions?
Discussion
Escort3500 said:
OP - a matter of interest, how wide is the carriageway and how wide is/are the footway(s) on each side?
I think the pictures I grab once home will help in illustrating, but it's not wide, and does vary in width with some areas in front of houses extending into the road, necessitating a narrowing of the road to accommodate. It's not so bad that you'd go past another car with your eyes shut in terror waiting for the worst, but definitely narrow.There are no footpaths to speak of but there is a grassy area on either side on the raised kerb which people naturally walk on if there's traffic.
otolith said:
bmwmike said:
Cars primarily parked on roads should pay extra tax IMO. Got drive space for one car,cool, have one car then. Wish my local authority would ban pavement parking too.
Electric cars should help!Mr_Megalomaniac said:
I'll try cut a fairly long story much shorter that affects my neighbours, and not so much me directly.
I live in a new development in Kent. It's a mixture of detached, semi-detached and somewhat more affordable terraced housing. Because it's just out of town naturally everyone has cars for convenience of commuting and getting about. Some of the properties are larger and have garages and others do not. The roads around the estate are quite narrow though.
Now, MOST people are considerate enough to park on their drive, in their garage, or in the overflow parking that is conveniently provided, clearly marked and only a 1minute walk away.
Problem comes in with a particularly nasty sort of 'dog-family' that, knowing fully well they have only one allocated space by the terraced housing, have nevertheless decided to purchase and own 4 cars. The older git and his remarkably self-entitled wife park across the entrance to my neighbours' shared drive (opposite side to the dropped kerb). Given the narrowness of the street this causes them significant difficulty in accessing or leaving their properties.
It all came to a head this weekend, and I sought more info.
Turns out my neighbours have been more than reasonable, in politely requesting numerous times over the last year that the guy and his wife not park their cars across the entrance due to the notorious difficulty it creates. They have written multiple letters to the estate body corporate, the developer, the police and more recently the council (they all say they will review the situation).
During the confrontation this weekend it became obvious the guy and his wife are complete self-entitled bellends with a penchant for thinking the world owes them, that everyone else is 2nd order, and they don't give a toss about being neighbourly, mannered or considerate in the least whatsoever. Which is unfortunate given how well-mannered and kind everyone else in this development has managed to get along hitherto.
Note, this is a private road on a private estate and not yet adopted by the council, and so is maintained by our estate body corporate. There is no public thoroughfare (given it's a closed estate anyway) and to my knowledge also no public right of use.
Given the above t
ttery, we will instead seek to have the specific problem area demarcated as a controlled no parking zone, after which some enforcement will be possible - my question is thus, does anyone know the process to have an area adopted as a controlled zone for parking on a private road (that may or may not later be adopted by the council in future)??
(Well aware of suggestions of ramming cars as put forward by my other neighbours).
You live on L******** C**** AICMFP.I live in a new development in Kent. It's a mixture of detached, semi-detached and somewhat more affordable terraced housing. Because it's just out of town naturally everyone has cars for convenience of commuting and getting about. Some of the properties are larger and have garages and others do not. The roads around the estate are quite narrow though.
Now, MOST people are considerate enough to park on their drive, in their garage, or in the overflow parking that is conveniently provided, clearly marked and only a 1minute walk away.
Problem comes in with a particularly nasty sort of 'dog-family' that, knowing fully well they have only one allocated space by the terraced housing, have nevertheless decided to purchase and own 4 cars. The older git and his remarkably self-entitled wife park across the entrance to my neighbours' shared drive (opposite side to the dropped kerb). Given the narrowness of the street this causes them significant difficulty in accessing or leaving their properties.
It all came to a head this weekend, and I sought more info.
Turns out my neighbours have been more than reasonable, in politely requesting numerous times over the last year that the guy and his wife not park their cars across the entrance due to the notorious difficulty it creates. They have written multiple letters to the estate body corporate, the developer, the police and more recently the council (they all say they will review the situation).
During the confrontation this weekend it became obvious the guy and his wife are complete self-entitled bellends with a penchant for thinking the world owes them, that everyone else is 2nd order, and they don't give a toss about being neighbourly, mannered or considerate in the least whatsoever. Which is unfortunate given how well-mannered and kind everyone else in this development has managed to get along hitherto.
Note, this is a private road on a private estate and not yet adopted by the council, and so is maintained by our estate body corporate. There is no public thoroughfare (given it's a closed estate anyway) and to my knowledge also no public right of use.
Given the above t
ttery, we will instead seek to have the specific problem area demarcated as a controlled no parking zone, after which some enforcement will be possible - my question is thus, does anyone know the process to have an area adopted as a controlled zone for parking on a private road (that may or may not later be adopted by the council in future)??(Well aware of suggestions of ramming cars as put forward by my other neighbours).
Edited by Mr_Megalomaniac on Monday 17th February 14:37
bmwmike said:
Cars primarily parked on roads should pay extra tax IMO. Got drive space for one car,cool, have one car then. Wish my local authority would ban pavement parking too.
So what about all the houses that don't have drives, and where if you don't park partially on the pavement the roads are impassable?
Mr_Megalomaniac said:
This is at the road level, the red car (one of the offending guy's fleet of 4), is parked partially on the grass, and this is the width available.
Are you saying the white BMW has problems exiting their drive with cars parked where the red car (and along that side of the road in general) is? I have to say that other than churning up the grass by inconsiderate parking I'm not seeing where the problem is. The car further down isn't parked on the grass and there seems plenty of room to pass. Apologies if I've misread the problem along the way.As a PS, where are pedestrians supposed to go along that road? It appears there's grass to the road edge on both sides.
Antony Moxey said:
Are you saying the white BMW has problems exiting their drive with cars parked where the red car (and along that side of the road in general) is? I have to say that other than churning up the grass by inconsiderate parking I'm not seeing where the problem is. The car further down isn't parked on the grass and there seems plenty of room to pass. Apologies if I've misread the problem along the way.
Yup exactly. That house and the one next to them share a drive and cannot get their cars in or out without great difficulty. And the other cars as a result churn up the grass. You'll see from the satellite picture that there's parking nearby for them to use. The issue here is that the guy who was allocated 1 spot brought 4 to the party and instead of being even slightly considerate and parking right round the corner, just blocks others, turns up the grass, and then has no understanding whatsoever about being "that guy" who makes everyone else's life difficult because he's selfish and doesn't consider anyone except himself.
Antony Moxey said:
Are you saying the white BMW has problems exiting their drive with cars parked where the red car (and along that side of the road in general) is? I have to say that other than churning up the grass by inconsiderate parking I'm not seeing where the problem is. The car further down isn't parked on the grass and there seems plenty of room to pass. Apologies if I've misread the problem along the way.
As a PS, where are pedestrians supposed to go along that road? It appears there's grass to the road edge on both sides.
To clarify - the red car had at this point been moved because of the argument (still ongoing in the street). Usually it's parked right across from the white BMW and has his other cars in front of and behind it as well.As a PS, where are pedestrians supposed to go along that road? It appears there's grass to the road edge on both sides.
Antony Moxey said:
Mr_Megalomaniac said:
As a PS, where are pedestrians supposed to go along that road? It appears there's grass to the road edge on both sides.Mandalore said:
otolith said:
bmwmike said:
Cars primarily parked on roads should pay extra tax IMO. Got drive space for one car,cool, have one car then. Wish my local authority would ban pavement parking too.
Electric cars should help!Mr_Megalomaniac said:
This is a map view of the problem, our neighbour has highlighted where they propose to add the parking.
That's just horrendous in terms of parking. Our first house was on a similar, but not that packed, new estate - never again!To be fair, there's new estate been dropped onto the edge of our village which is similar, and people have started parking on the main road passing the estate but the snag is it's a 40 limit so they shouldn't park without lights.
Mr_Megalomaniac said:
I can't see the markings but that looks like a manhole cover intended to be driven over by cars and other light vehicles. Not dustcarts and delivery lorries.As it is conceivable that people parking there will result in heavy vehicles being driven over the manhole, I'd check if I were you, as collapsing manholes can cause anything from an inconvenience (telecoms) to an environmental hazard (sewers). Something that might help your case even if only a little.
Swervin_Mervin said:
Looks like shared surface. So anyone parking on it is a bit of a c**t.
I lived on a new building like this 5 years ago and had a similar issue. The road was not wide enough for cars to park on one side without being partially on the pavement. Then people complained about this and so the police took a zero tolerance policy to parking on a pavement whether or not you blocked it.My experience is that if you live on one of the new quite tight developments you will always have properties that have many more cars than parking and so if that stresses you out its not the right place to live.
Its more and more an issue with people living at home longer.
My mums road is much the same guy opposite moved in with two cars and now has 5 and two car drive/ 1 in garage, as he son and daughter are both home you can't park outside my mums hows because of his two cars in the road.
My sister has up to 3 taxis in her new build road as the guy in corner runs a taxi firm from a 2 bed and has a new range rover all backed out, but smallest house in the street. The developers aren't interested!
Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 20th February 13:17
otolith said:
Mandalore said:
otolith said:
bmwmike said:
Cars primarily parked on roads should pay extra tax IMO. Got drive space for one car,cool, have one car then. Wish my local authority would ban pavement parking too.
Electric cars should help!donkmeister said:
I can't see the markings but that looks like a manhole cover intended to be driven over by cars and other light vehicles. Not dustcarts and delivery lorries.
As it is conceivable that people parking there will result in heavy vehicles being driven over the manhole, I'd check if I were you, as collapsing manholes can cause anything from an inconvenience (telecoms) to an environmental hazard (sewers). Something that might help your case even if only a little.
Thanks, that's a good point and might helpAs it is conceivable that people parking there will result in heavy vehicles being driven over the manhole, I'd check if I were you, as collapsing manholes can cause anything from an inconvenience (telecoms) to an environmental hazard (sewers). Something that might help your case even if only a little.
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