Advice on whether to report a theft from a Main Dealer site.
Discussion
ging84 said:
caziques said:
Are you serious?, steal some loose change because you have some twisted sense of entitlement. Grow up.
There is NO excuse for theft.
Pretty simplistic world view.There is NO excuse for theft.
Am I the one with a twisted sense of entitlement because I say I might take something that doesn't belong to me from someone who seems to care little about it.
Or is it you, who expects to be able to have society protect your property no matter how little effort you are willing to put into protecting it yourself.
I always empty the car of its contents before handing it over, saves the hassle. The sums involved are small but that is not the point so report to dealer but I wouldn't bother the police about it, they have enough things to deal with.
You have proved to yourself that someone has sticky fingers so have a brownie point and empty the car next time.
You have proved to yourself that someone has sticky fingers so have a brownie point and empty the car next time.
tin duck dave said:
ging84 said:
caziques said:
Are you serious?, steal some loose change because you have some twisted sense of entitlement. Grow up.
There is NO excuse for theft.
Pretty simplistic world view.There is NO excuse for theft.
Am I the one with a twisted sense of entitlement because I say I might take something that doesn't belong to me from someone who seems to care little about it.
Or is it you, who expects to be able to have society protect your property no matter how little effort you are willing to put into protecting it yourself.
What does someone being honest about their morality have to do with entitlement? Not saying I should be allowed to take something, just that I might. That is not a sense of entitlement.
You on the other hand have the belief that you should be entitled to be protected from any being stolen because everyone should conform to the same moral standards as you..
That is a sense of entitlement
ging84 said:
It is really trendy to accuse certain people of having a sense of entitlement bit have a think about it.
What does someone being honest about their morality have to do with entitlement? Not saying I should be allowed to take something, just that I might. That is not a sense of entitlement.
You on the other hand have the belief that you should be entitled to be protected from any being stolen because everyone should conform to the same moral standards as you..
That is a sense of entitlement
There’s no level of moral standards on theft. A small theft is not ok.What does someone being honest about their morality have to do with entitlement? Not saying I should be allowed to take something, just that I might. That is not a sense of entitlement.
You on the other hand have the belief that you should be entitled to be protected from any being stolen because everyone should conform to the same moral standards as you..
That is a sense of entitlement
If you think it is then you need to grow up.
oyster said:
There’s no level of moral standards on theft. A small theft is not ok.
If you think it is then you need to grow up.
Grow upIf you think it is then you need to grow up.
What does age have to do with it?
The legal standard on theft is clear
You take £3 out of someone's ash tray that's theft
You work as a salesman and you sell someone a finance package which charges someone an extra £500 in interest compared to the best rate you could have set, to earn yourself extra commission, not.
You can believe the morality is also just as clearcut, but I do not and you be wasting your time trying to convince me of anything after demonstrating such obviously prejudiced views.
If they are willing to steal a little bit of change, would they also take the oil and filters that are meant to service the car??
£3 from the ashtray and £30 from wee Jim down the pub for 6 litres of oil and a couple of filters..
OP gets fleeced for it all, including a £500 stamp and the next owner pays over the odds because it’s “got full main dealer stamps”
Where does it end?
Won’t somebody think of the children!
£3 from the ashtray and £30 from wee Jim down the pub for 6 litres of oil and a couple of filters..
OP gets fleeced for it all, including a £500 stamp and the next owner pays over the odds because it’s “got full main dealer stamps”
Where does it end?
Won’t somebody think of the children!
I think you are doing the right thing by letting the dealer know.
They don’t want this repeating on multiple customers.
It’s not the sums involved that are galling, but the fact that it is happening to you and potentially others. Hopefully said chap will be warned not to repeat and this will be the end of it.
I’m assuming you won’t be using the same place again? Why should you have to be conscious of what you left in your car and then check it is all there when your car is returned to you?
They don’t want this repeating on multiple customers.
It’s not the sums involved that are galling, but the fact that it is happening to you and potentially others. Hopefully said chap will be warned not to repeat and this will be the end of it.
I’m assuming you won’t be using the same place again? Why should you have to be conscious of what you left in your car and then check it is all there when your car is returned to you?
ging84 said:
Does it?
Plenty of surveys have come up with more than 50% of people admitting to stealing at work.
Sure, many people have accidentally / deliberately taken a pen from work. Plenty of surveys have come up with more than 50% of people admitting to stealing at work.
I doubt 50% of people have rifled through the petty cash for a few quid.
I am pretty sure 50% of people have not stolen from their colleague's wallet. Or from a customer.
It's no different in law, but I think there is a perception difference between stealing from the "company" vs stealing from an individual/colleague/customer.
(but "stolen" has a number of tests, including "intent to deprive". I have a company owned 50p pen next to me. I have taken it from work, I may put it in my work bag and leave it on my desk next time I go in.)
Another "when I was in the motor trade" post.
Large main dealer with bodyshop.
Had an anonymous note left on my desk reporting a member of staff was seen in a van in the bodyshop. Van was a TV installation unit racked out with usual stuff.
Perps toolbox was searched and a couple of HDMI cables and a TV remote turned up.
Perp couldn`t explain it, coughed for it and was sacked.
Was a good lad 80% of the way through a 4 year apprenticeship. His parents were utterly distraught over it.
Large main dealer with bodyshop.
Had an anonymous note left on my desk reporting a member of staff was seen in a van in the bodyshop. Van was a TV installation unit racked out with usual stuff.
Perps toolbox was searched and a couple of HDMI cables and a TV remote turned up.
Perp couldn`t explain it, coughed for it and was sacked.
Was a good lad 80% of the way through a 4 year apprenticeship. His parents were utterly distraught over it.
ging84 said:
bad company said:
That speaks volumes about you.
Does it?Plenty of surveys have come up with more than 50% of people admitting to stealing at work.
Incredible.
Hammer67 said:
Another "when I was in the motor trade" post.
Large main dealer with bodyshop.
Had an anonymous note left on my desk reporting a member of staff was seen in a van in the bodyshop. Van was a TV installation unit racked out with usual stuff.
Perps toolbox was searched and a couple of HDMI cables and a TV remote turned up.
Perp couldn`t explain it, coughed for it and was sacked.
Was a good lad 80% of the way through a 4 year apprenticeship. His parents were utterly distraught over it.
Wonder what he got away with in the three previous years ?Large main dealer with bodyshop.
Had an anonymous note left on my desk reporting a member of staff was seen in a van in the bodyshop. Van was a TV installation unit racked out with usual stuff.
Perps toolbox was searched and a couple of HDMI cables and a TV remote turned up.
Perp couldn`t explain it, coughed for it and was sacked.
Was a good lad 80% of the way through a 4 year apprenticeship. His parents were utterly distraught over it.
My experience is that they never get caught the first time they do it.
bad company said:
ging84 said:
bad company said:
That speaks volumes about you.
Does it?Plenty of surveys have come up with more than 50% of people admitting to stealing at work.
Incredible.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Strange morals.
berlintaxi said:
But not paying a business for work done is OK?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Strange morals.
One is criminal, the other one is a civil contractual dispute (and in that case it was ambiguous)https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Strange morals.
ging84 said:
Mechanics really don't earn a lot i'm really not surprised some take a bit of loose change, i'm pretty sure I might
Don't they? The ones I know are pretty comfortable. My best mate was regularly earning over £40k a year when he was at a main dealer. They had a problem filling service manager roles as none of the mechanics wanted the pay cut that came with the greater responsibility. He has started his own place now and the guys spannering for him are on nearly £40k each as starting wages. Plenty of perks too.
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