What law does this refer to?
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Kenny6868 said:
Its been a while since I read the Highway Code, but I'm not aware of any law that limits vehicles to 56mph. Have I missed something?
Is it a double axle? Trucks are limited to 56MPH and if its a van that requires a tacho could also be limited?Not sure what makes a van liable for a tacho but I've seen a few.
From another forum:
"anything over 3.5t GVW (ie anything requiring a tachograph to be fitted) first used on or after 1st Jan 2002 now has to be speed restricted in line with the regulations already in place for post-1988 larger vehicles. This law was brought into force in Jan 2007 with a 12-month "bedding-in" period, therefore retro-fitting was required during 2007 for late 51-plate 7.5t lorries onwards.
Most of the vehicles in this category will be 7.5t GVW, ie Iveco Cargo, Mercedes Actros etc lorries although there are heavier versions of 3.5t vans built, mostly for the utility companies and for some parcel delivery firms. These have the outward appearance of a Transit or Sprinter but can actually carry much more weight, hence are bound by tacho and speed limiter laws. Occasionally they can be seen with "Limited to 56mph" or similar emblazoned on the back doors.
All vehicles limited to 56mph are banned from using the outside lane of motorways and dual carriageways with 3 or more lanes."
"anything over 3.5t GVW (ie anything requiring a tachograph to be fitted) first used on or after 1st Jan 2002 now has to be speed restricted in line with the regulations already in place for post-1988 larger vehicles. This law was brought into force in Jan 2007 with a 12-month "bedding-in" period, therefore retro-fitting was required during 2007 for late 51-plate 7.5t lorries onwards.
Most of the vehicles in this category will be 7.5t GVW, ie Iveco Cargo, Mercedes Actros etc lorries although there are heavier versions of 3.5t vans built, mostly for the utility companies and for some parcel delivery firms. These have the outward appearance of a Transit or Sprinter but can actually carry much more weight, hence are bound by tacho and speed limiter laws. Occasionally they can be seen with "Limited to 56mph" or similar emblazoned on the back doors.
All vehicles limited to 56mph are banned from using the outside lane of motorways and dual carriageways with 3 or more lanes."
Heartworm said:
Kenny6868 said:
Its been a while since I read the Highway Code, but I'm not aware of any law that limits vehicles to 56mph. Have I missed something?
Is it a double axle? Trucks are limited to 56MPH and if its a van that requires a tacho could also be limited?Not sure what makes a van liable for a tacho but I've seen a few.
I assume it qualifies for that limit as laden weight?
Some 4x4 towing a horse box full of horses exceed the weight limit so require a tachograph.
https://www.parkers.co.uk/vans-pickups/advice/2017...
Worth a read if you sometimes hire or borrow a van.
Worth a read if you sometimes hire or borrow a van.
Several utility vans have an inbuilt compressor and generators. that will push them over the 3.5 Tonne.
https://www.onboardpower.co.uk/
https://www.onboardpower.co.uk/
PorkInsider said:
Everyone's jumping it to talk about why the van might be over 3.5t but OP's point is that whether it's 1t or 30t it's not restricted 'by law' to 56mph.
The law doesn't allow for the limiter to be set above 56mph. Ergo if it has a limiter (by law) it can't legally be set to 60mph. By law it has to be set at no more than 56mph.PorkInsider said:
Everyone's jumping it to talk about why the van might be over 3.5t but OP's point is that whether it's 1t or 30t it's not restricted 'by law' to 56mph.
the general giveaway re vans is twin rear wheels usually = 3.5t +, means limited to 56. the sticker will be to show people who haven't got a clue why he's going so f***** slow the pic looks like twin wheel
old'uns said:
PorkInsider said:
Everyone's jumping it to talk about why the van might be over 3.5t but OP's point is that whether it's 1t or 30t it's not restricted 'by law' to 56mph.
the general giveaway re vans is twin rear wheels usually = 3.5t +, means limited to 56. the sticker will be to show people who haven't got a clue why he's going so f***** slow the pic looks like twin wheel
PorkInsider said:
Everyone's jumping it to talk about why the van might be over 3.5t but OP's point is that whether it's 1t or 30t it's not restricted 'by law' to 56mph.
The OP does not make a point that the van is not restricted by law to 56mph, as you're suggesting, at all! - What he actually states is that he is not aware of there being a law that covers it, and essentially asks which law it is:Kenny6868 said:
Its been a while since I read the Highway Code, but I'm not aware of any law that limits vehicles to 56mph. Have I missed something?
The actual law that covers speed limiters on this type of vehicle is EU law (Directive 2002/85/EC):https://www.legislation.gov.uk/eudr/2002/85/pdfs/e...
4rephill said:
The actual law that covers speed limiters on this type of vehicle is EU law (Directive 2002/85/EC):
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/eudr/2002/85/pdfs/e...
Where's the 56mph bit in there?https://www.legislation.gov.uk/eudr/2002/85/pdfs/e...
PorkInsider said:
Where's the 56mph bit in there?
Member States shall take the necessary measures to ensure that motor vehicles of categories N2 and N3 may be used on the road only if equipped with a speed limitation device set in such a way that their speed cannot exceed 90 kilometres per hour. That van is N2 - 90kmh is usually referred to as 56MPH here for obvious reasons.
To add to the confusion it was mooted that the EU were looking to bring everything over 2T used in commercial operations into the same regulations as larger vehicles .
As others have stated many vehicles under 3.5t that are used for towing for business purposes have tachographs and all the restrictions involved.
The UK limit is 60 mph but the EU limit is 90 kph although in Europe large vehicles have many constantly changing speed limits and lane restrictions,often at busy times , busy junctions, bridges , tunnels and on roads in areas exposed to harsh weather .
Many van drivers are totally unaware of the different limits that apply to their vehicles .
As others have stated many vehicles under 3.5t that are used for towing for business purposes have tachographs and all the restrictions involved.
The UK limit is 60 mph but the EU limit is 90 kph although in Europe large vehicles have many constantly changing speed limits and lane restrictions,often at busy times , busy junctions, bridges , tunnels and on roads in areas exposed to harsh weather .
Many van drivers are totally unaware of the different limits that apply to their vehicles .
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