Leon Briggs Death in custody misconduct hearing collapses.
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Derek Smith said:
Greendubber said:
Which part of that Twitter feed is a reality check for anyone?
Indeed.How unfortunate for him a motocross bike made of flowers and someones interpretation of the incident who wasnt there doesn't really fit 'reality check'
I'm sure most normal people would wait for the truth to come out.
davidball said:
Flanders is a great place to live and so far I have no quarrel with the police here. Since I am liable to pay UK taxes on my UK pension I do feel I am part of the public whether I live in the UK or not. Tough if you do not like it.
And tough if you don't like the decisions you don't understand. davidball said:
Drumroll said:
You don't even live in this country so I don't think "we the public" really applies to you.
Maybe if you were talking about the Belgium police you may have a point. As a matter of interest do you use other forums to complain about the Belgium police?
Flanders is a great place to live and so far I have no quarrel with the police here. Since I am liable to pay UK taxes on my UK pension I do feel I am part of the public whether I live in the UK or not. Tough if you do not like it.Maybe if you were talking about the Belgium police you may have a point. As a matter of interest do you use other forums to complain about the Belgium police?
Visit https://twitter.com/justiceforsean1?lang=en for a reality check.
It is a Twitter group for people, who like you have already decided what the "facts" are.
None of this answers why you are so anti UK police. Especially as none of what they do is going to effect you.
davidball said:
Interesting to note all you gripers have (intentionally?) missed or ignored the point of the twitter feed.
Interesting to note, you still haven't answered the question, what reality check?The only one actually gripping is you, we are just (perhaps foolishly) responding. And maybe taking a different viewpoint.
A French police observer group came over to see a custody suite. No offence to any Kent police on PH, but they drove through to country and came to Sussex. As you would, of course.
They went to Brighton, a busy station, and viewed the impact of PACE, the protection given to suspects and prisoners, the interview suites and such. I was told the group asked a few questions, but the person showing them around reckoned that they were not overwhelmed. Back at the HQ restaurant, not overwhelmed there either, they said that they did not see the point of the CCTV and restrictions on interviewing. It seemed that PACE did not accord with their ideas of treatment of prisoners. Too soft it seemed.
I received three German police officer, one high ranking and the other two just there to ask all the pertinent questions and do the work, to my ID unit. This on the Monday following their 5:2 defeat to England at football. They didn't like the idea of all the surveillance, where everything everyone said was recorded with video.
Difficult thought it might be for DBall to accept, there are precious few countries where prisoners and suspects are accorded the same level of protection.
They went to Brighton, a busy station, and viewed the impact of PACE, the protection given to suspects and prisoners, the interview suites and such. I was told the group asked a few questions, but the person showing them around reckoned that they were not overwhelmed. Back at the HQ restaurant, not overwhelmed there either, they said that they did not see the point of the CCTV and restrictions on interviewing. It seemed that PACE did not accord with their ideas of treatment of prisoners. Too soft it seemed.
I received three German police officer, one high ranking and the other two just there to ask all the pertinent questions and do the work, to my ID unit. This on the Monday following their 5:2 defeat to England at football. They didn't like the idea of all the surveillance, where everything everyone said was recorded with video.
Difficult thought it might be for DBall to accept, there are precious few countries where prisoners and suspects are accorded the same level of protection.
singlecoil said:
Maybe they didn't reject his job application when he was younger, though I expect they would have if he had applied to them as well.
Oh, I don't know. Going on this New Statesman article from a few years back he's obviously an excellent fit.https://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2017/11/...
XCP said:
Makes one wonder what the situation is like in Belgium. Mind you, he doesn't have a problem with the Belgian police.
Did loads of work with the Belgians. Most here would be worried by their justice system. The system there, is the police gather the evidence at the direction of the prosecutor. Then the SIO presents it as a report to the judge. No need for individual evidence from individual officers or witnesses and NO examination of the SIO by the defence. The Defence then present their evidence and on balance of probabilities guilty or not. The only downside is they much prefer us to prosecute, if at all possible, as their sentencing makes us look like Genghis Khan.No idea about direct parallels with this thread but police involved shootings are trivial compared to even out most straightforward ones. Their armed police do "Shoot to wound" and can shoot fleeing suspects for serious offences.
Edited by Graveworm on Sunday 29th March 20:43
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