Emergency legislation - information and commentary

Emergency legislation - information and commentary

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RSTurboPaul

10,468 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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NickCQ said:
From what you have posted here and elsewhere it sounds like you are choosing not to get the jab anyway, so I'm not sure why you care.
Other than the fact that those not getting vaccinated will be cut out of normal life 'because filthy'?

The narrative is already well underway in the Press - 'refuseniks' being the choice of words for those being cautious and awaiting Phase 3 trials to, you know, actually finish.

June 21st will see Vaccine Passports announced and, I'm sure, legislation stopping non-vaccinated people from going about normal daily life unless they prove they've been tested negative in the past 24/48/72 hours.

It's already in place in Israel, the place Slithering Gove just came back from.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

97 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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RSTurboPaul said:
awaiting Phase 3 trials to, you know, actually finish.
tbh I haven't followed the specifics here - which of the vaccines haven't finished Phase 3 / what is Phase 3 / when is that expected?

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

63 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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NickCQ said:
RSTurboPaul said:
awaiting Phase 3 trials to, you know, actually finish.
tbh I haven't followed the specifics here - which of the vaccines haven't finished Phase 3 / what is Phase 3 / when is that expected?
Any of them. Any approval any of these vaccines have right now in the UK or US is on an Emergency Use Authorisation basis.

Phase 3 is the final phase in a standard clinical trial for vaccines (and I presume other therapeutics). It's not something that can be rushed because it has a defined time-frame (of, I think, 2 years).

2022/23 should see these vaccines (if they pass trials) fully licensed and approved for use (without it being contingent on an emergency).

Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 19th May 21:27

RSTurboPaul

10,468 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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markyb_lcy said:
NickCQ said:
RSTurboPaul said:
awaiting Phase 3 trials to, you know, actually finish.
tbh I haven't followed the specifics here - which of the vaccines haven't finished Phase 3 / what is Phase 3 / when is that expected?
Any of them.

2022/23
Roll up! Roll up! Join today for your chance to be an unpaid guinea pig in the world's largest medical experiment!

RSTurboPaul

10,468 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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markyb_lcy said:
Any of them. Any approval any of these vaccines have right now in the UK or US is on an Emergency Use Authorisation basis.

Phase 3 is the final phase in a standard clinical trial for vaccines (and I presume other therapeutics). It's not something that can be rushed because it has a defined time-frame (of, I think, 2 years).

2022/23 should see these vaccines (if they pass trials) fully licensed and approved for use (without it being contingent on an emergency).

Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 19th May 21:27
And then the real money can start to be charged by the vaccine companies.

Pfizer (IIRC) has already stated they expect it to become an ongoing income stream.


And just think - with a 'vaccine passport' that expires after six months (as the Israel version already does) anyone wanting to live a normal life would have no option but to get jabbed up with whatever 'booster' jab they are doing - which 'won't need testing for 3 years again because it's only tweaked a little bit' - despite there being no evidence such jabs are even needed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9596343/H...

NickCQ

5,392 posts

97 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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markyb_lcy said:
Any of them. Any approval any of these vaccines have right now in the UK or US is on an Emergency Use Authorisation basis.
Phase 3 is the final phase in a standard clinical trial for vaccines (and I presume other therapeutics). It's not something that can be rushed because it has a defined time-frame (of, I think, 2 years). 2022/23 should see these vaccines (if they pass trials) fully licensed and approved for use (without it being contingent on an emergency).
That's helpful, thanks.

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

63 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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RSTurboPaul said:
markyb_lcy said:
Any of them. Any approval any of these vaccines have right now in the UK or US is on an Emergency Use Authorisation basis.

Phase 3 is the final phase in a standard clinical trial for vaccines (and I presume other therapeutics). It's not something that can be rushed because it has a defined time-frame (of, I think, 2 years).

2022/23 should see these vaccines (if they pass trials) fully licensed and approved for use (without it being contingent on an emergency).

Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 19th May 21:27
And then the real money can start to be charged by the vaccine companies.

Pfizer (IIRC) has already stated they expect it to become an ongoing income stream.


And just think - with a 'vaccine passport' that expires after six months (as the Israel version already does) anyone wanting to live a normal life would have no option but to get jabbed up with whatever 'booster' jab they are doing - which 'won't need testing for 3 years again because it's only tweaked a little bit' - despite there being no evidence such jabs are even needed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9596343/H...
yes It's just one big con.

MHRA allowing them to change it without any further approval (as has been suggested and I've heard elsewhere) if true, is a complete dereliction of their duty. Of course, that will have nothing to do with the regulatory body being funded by BMGF. That's just pure coincidence. Gates is a lovely man who just wants what's best for us all.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

97 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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RSTurboPaul said:
jabbed up with whatever 'booster' jab they are doing - which 'won't need testing for 3 years again because it's only tweaked a little bit' - despite there being no evidence such jabs are even needed.
Hang on, isn't this just what happens with 'flu in the ordinary course of business? I thought one of the key planks of the "let it rip" school of thought was that we should manage COVID just like we manage 'flu?

NickCQ

5,392 posts

97 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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markyb_lcy said:
Gates is a lovely man who just wants what's best for us all.
There it is. And you guys were doing so well!

RSTurboPaul

10,468 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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NickCQ said:
RSTurboPaul said:
jabbed up with whatever 'booster' jab they are doing - which 'won't need testing for 3 years again because it's only tweaked a little bit' - despite there being no evidence such jabs are even needed.
Hang on, isn't this just what happens with 'flu in the ordinary course of business? I thought one of the key planks of the "let it rip" school of thought was that we should manage COVID just like we manage 'flu?
My understanding is that there are only 7? flu jabs to choose from, and they have to guess which one is going to hit later in a given year.

(I may be wrong, but I'm sure I read that somewhere.)

RSTurboPaul

10,468 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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NickCQ said:
markyb_lcy said:
Gates is a lovely man who just wants what's best for us all.
There it is. And you guys were doing so well!
It doesn't make you wonder even a little bit how one very rich man seems to have fingers in every single pie that comes into view? lol

unident

6,702 posts

52 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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RSTurboPaul said:
It doesn't make you wonder even a little bit how one very rich man seems to have fingers in every single pie that comes into view? lol
OMG. This discussion just keeps on giving rofl

RSTurboPaul

10,468 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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unident said:
RSTurboPaul said:
It doesn't make you wonder even a little bit how one very rich man seems to have fingers in every single pie that comes into view? lol
OMG. This discussion just keeps on giving rofl
Thanks.

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

63 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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NickCQ said:
markyb_lcy said:
Gates is a lovely man who just wants what's best for us all.
There it is. And you guys were doing so well!
Aren’t you a fan?

You must be one of those conspiracy theorists that Marianna on the BBC warned me about.

(Fwiw, I’m a Linux engineer and a lifelong champion of free/open source software. As such, Ive had a deep distrust of Gates since well in advance of his philanthropy days. Look at how he built the Microsoft empire - by screwing over anyone and anything in his/its path).

(Edit, BTW if anyone wants something geeky to watch Re:Gates, check out Pirates Of Silicon Valley - its a movie, and features a young Noah Wyle).

Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 19th May 22:35

Guybrush

4,358 posts

207 months

Thursday 20th May 2021
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In case not posted before, here's what Gates wants to do (like China does already): https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?...

Overview; (much more detail via the link above) (it'll be a Central Bank Digital Currency of course)

1. WO2020060606 - CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA

Human body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.

XCP

16,950 posts

229 months

Thursday 20th May 2021
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so I won't have to fill out a timesheet every day? Suits me.

RSTurboPaul

10,468 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th May 2021
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Well, assuming you are happy to carry out the tasks you have been set, whether you like it or not...


I note that the patent has the numbers 060606 in it - which the Tin Foil advocates have pointed out is similar to the '666' 'mark of the beast' thing that seems to keep cropping up in relation to 'new world order' stuff more often than would be coincidental.

Even I am not sure about that... lol, but the fact that it does crop up quite often (from what I've read) is interesting enough to be of note.

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

63 months

Thursday 20th May 2021
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XCP said:
so I won't have to fill out a timesheet every day? Suits me.
People do timesheets daily? smile

What’s wrong with doing the whole thing at the end of the week?

e-honda

8,940 posts

147 months

Thursday 20th May 2021
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markyb_lcy said:
People do timesheets daily? smile

What’s wrong with doing the whole thing at the end of the week?
Because we have already established 1 big lie is bad

XCP

16,950 posts

229 months

Thursday 20th May 2021
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markyb_lcy said:
XCP said:
so I won't have to fill out a timesheet every day? Suits me.
People do timesheets daily? smile

What’s wrong with doing the whole thing at the end of the week?[/quotedat]

By Friday, I've forgotten what I did on Thursday, let alone Monday!