Emergency legislation - information and commentary
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unident said:
garyhun said:
The terms anti-vaxxer and Covid denier are such childish pejoratives to throw at people.
They’re not pejorative in any way. One describes some one who is anti vaccine, the other someone who denies that Covid exists.
Are you either or both of those?
Off for wine now I’ve finished my gardening for the day.
unident said:
Straight answers to direct questions seem very much in short supply on here.
the answers turn to opinions... and biased responses tailored to anything that questions the narratives being followed...dont agree with it, it must be something behind it, some ulterior motive, as the reasoning behind it cant be accepted.
On the whole do we really think the government would be able to pull the wool ? or have some agenda ? not any of the governments that ive seen. they all tend to be with no real plan in place.... it would mean giving them cunning and intelligence... a government ?
now that really is a conspiracy...
garyhun said:
Childish, as are lame attempts at gaslighting.
Off for wine now I’ve finished my gardening for the day.
“Gaslighting” Off for wine now I’ve finished my gardening for the day.
It’s a few words from someone you haven’t ever and will never meet. If that makes you anxious or question your sanity then wow. Just wow.
Edited by unident on Saturday 29th May 18:53
So.. the majority of the legislation comes to an end soon...
What is remaining? I thought I read somewhere that regional Public Health directors would retain some emergency powers, but now I can't find the article.
Also realised that BV72 has exercised his «right to be forgotten» and is no longer on PH, nor is much of his content.
What is remaining? I thought I read somewhere that regional Public Health directors would retain some emergency powers, but now I can't find the article.
Also realised that BV72 has exercised his «right to be forgotten» and is no longer on PH, nor is much of his content.
My understanding is the Coronvirus act remains on the statue books for a while longer.
For those of the view that no future Secretary of State for Health and social care should have the same powers as those recently exercised that would require the Public Health Act 1984 to be suitably amended.
For those of the view that no future Secretary of State for Health and social care should have the same powers as those recently exercised that would require the Public Health Act 1984 to be suitably amended.
L_G said:
My understanding is the Coronvirus act remains on the statue books for a while longer.
For those of the view that no future Secretary of State for Health and social care should have the same powers as those recently exercised that would require the Public Health Act 1984 to be suitably amended.
I think restrictions on travel in and out of the UK remain?For those of the view that no future Secretary of State for Health and social care should have the same powers as those recently exercised that would require the Public Health Act 1984 to be suitably amended.
citizensm1th said:
vaud said:
So..
Also realised that BV72 has exercised his «right to be forgotten» and is no longer on PH, nor is much of his content.
Hardly surprising when you have a post about your own car in a thread you started about that car deleted by a mod.Also realised that BV72 has exercised his «right to be forgotten» and is no longer on PH, nor is much of his content.
That is a shame - I enjoyed his posts and he was helpful with a healthy dose of cynicism/sarcasm.
Edited for spelyng
Edited by RSTurboPaul on Wednesday 7th July 08:46
Plymouth coffee shop fined £42K for Covid breach
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-57750368
If so, would that make an Appeal case successful in this instance?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-57750368
BBC said:
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The cafe, Deanna Yates and Michael Pendlebury were each fined £10,000.
Finla was also ordered to pay £8,221 costs and the two owners were each ordered to pay £2,002 costs.
Pendlebury, 35, of Stannary Lane, Plympton and Yates, 34, also of Stannary Lane, did not enter a plea or appear at the court.
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The court heard the owners had made a statement saying they were exempt from the regulations, citing Magna Carta.
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But District Judge Rod Hine said arguments relating to Magna Carta were "spurious" and not for the court to decide and said he was "quite satisfied that there was a serial breach of regulations".
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Pendlebury, Yates and Finla were also ordered to pay £181 victim surcharge making a total sum to be paid of £42,768.
Didn't the pubs etc. go to court to clarify whether there was valid risk behind the order for them to close, which the Govt admitted there wasn't?The cafe, Deanna Yates and Michael Pendlebury were each fined £10,000.
Finla was also ordered to pay £8,221 costs and the two owners were each ordered to pay £2,002 costs.
Pendlebury, 35, of Stannary Lane, Plympton and Yates, 34, also of Stannary Lane, did not enter a plea or appear at the court.
...
The court heard the owners had made a statement saying they were exempt from the regulations, citing Magna Carta.
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But District Judge Rod Hine said arguments relating to Magna Carta were "spurious" and not for the court to decide and said he was "quite satisfied that there was a serial breach of regulations".
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Pendlebury, Yates and Finla were also ordered to pay £181 victim surcharge making a total sum to be paid of £42,768.
If so, would that make an Appeal case successful in this instance?
My recollection is that they were not successful, in no small part due to the fact that by the time the case was heard the restrictions on hospitality venues were on the cusp of being lifted.
The more cynically minded of us would observe that the legal challenge regarding the use of the Public Health Act was unsuccessful in part for a similar reason - i.e. by the time the case was heard the restrictions were quite trivial rather than criminalising being able to leave ones' home.
The more cynically minded of us would observe that the legal challenge regarding the use of the Public Health Act was unsuccessful in part for a similar reason - i.e. by the time the case was heard the restrictions were quite trivial rather than criminalising being able to leave ones' home.
L_G said:
My recollection is that they were not successful, in no small part due to the fact that by the time the case was heard the restrictions on hospitality venues were on the cusp of being lifted.
The more cynically minded of us would observe that the legal challenge regarding the use of the Public Health Act was unsuccessful in part for a similar reason - i.e. by the time the case was heard the restrictions were quite trivial rather than criminalising being able to leave ones' home.
Not that the Govt delayed things until the cases were no longer relevant... The more cynically minded of us would observe that the legal challenge regarding the use of the Public Health Act was unsuccessful in part for a similar reason - i.e. by the time the case was heard the restrictions were quite trivial rather than criminalising being able to leave ones' home.
Isle of Man border policy is discriminatory, petitioner says
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-...
BBC said:
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Under the current rules, only fully vaccinated people can travel freely between the island and the rest of the Common Travel Area.
Victoria Hodgson said the policy had created a "two-tier society".
A government spokesman said the current rules were "not intended to be a long term position".
Those who do not meet the two jab criteria must pay for a test and isolation regime on arrival on the island.
Under the current rules, only fully vaccinated people can travel freely between the island and the rest of the Common Travel Area.
Victoria Hodgson said the policy had created a "two-tier society".
A government spokesman said the current rules were "not intended to be a long term position".
Those who do not meet the two jab criteria must pay for a test and isolation regime on arrival on the island.
Whats the latest on the covid restrictions, weren't they due a vote at the end of September. I seem to remember MP Charles Walker standing up at the last renewal vote and saying something like "as sure as eggs are eggs we will be back here in September debating the very same thing again."
This article reminded me of the supposed renewal.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...
It says "as emergency coronavirus legislation ends"
This article reminded me of the supposed renewal.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...
It says "as emergency coronavirus legislation ends"
Is Covid an excuse for a power grab?
It seems some in the House of Lords are concerned and two committees have created two papers on the matter:
from:
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/7941...
from:
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/7960...
It seems some in the House of Lords are concerned and two committees have created two papers on the matter:
from:
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/7941...
from:
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/7960...
carinaman said:
Is Covid an excuse for a power grab?
It seems some in the House of Lords are concerned and two committees have created two papers on the matter:
from:
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/7941...
from:
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/7960...
I'm glad to see someone is taking notice. As it stands, it seems it is Rule by Decree with no way to remove those in power, regardless of how egregious the actions taken.It seems some in the House of Lords are concerned and two committees have created two papers on the matter:
from:
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/7941...
from:
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/7960...
Thanks for posting.
66 year old man fined £100 for breaking lockdown and going to the allottments to break the loneliness while working to save us from Covid Civil Servants party long into the night:
https://twitter.com/kirkkorner/status/148370588648...
Boris can't see what he did wrong as they knew the rules were b
ks from the start and they've only ever been about control and obedience and not infection control.
https://twitter.com/kirkkorner/status/148370588648...
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