Serving officers - What is the effect of the CV crisis
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Elroy Blue said:
We've got hardly anything. One tiny hand sanitizer and a mask kept in the car for emergency use only. We've been told there are no replacements for the foreseeable future.
Officers are not impressed, but just getting on with it anyway
Outrageous. We have FFP3 masks, paper surgeons style masks, face shields, hand cleaner, rolls of plastic aprons, wipes etc. Officers are not impressed, but just getting on with it anyway
Have they given any indication of where it is?
Elroy Blue said:
We've got hardly anything. One tiny hand sanitizer and a mask kept in the car for emergency use only. We've been told there are no replacements for the foreseeable future.
Officers are not impressed, but just getting on with it anyway
That's crazy. Over here we've all been issued boxes of N95 masks, hand sanitizer, disinfectant wipes and gloves. And we have to wear masks on all contacts now.Officers are not impressed, but just getting on with it anyway
All along the PPE availability seems to be a logistics thing, not within the force as I can’t be that specific, but more generally.
Consistently we’ve been told by govt “we have it but can’t get it to where it needs to be”. Honestly I know it’s a big job but it’s not rocket science and by now we should be on top of it. Bad times.
Consistently we’ve been told by govt “we have it but can’t get it to where it needs to be”. Honestly I know it’s a big job but it’s not rocket science and by now we should be on top of it. Bad times.
Bit strange for us...other squads have said how Q it has been for them since I started this set last Friday.
Today is the first time since then I've not been late off. Almost nine hours overtime since then.
Lot more domestics. Not that surprising though as everyone is spending so much time together (I'm pleased that I can go to work as I'm sure my girlfriend is as it would be s
t otherwise!).
Today I heard of my first RTC though which surprised me (at least in my patch). I was expecting more as people are making the most of the empty roads
Today is the first time since then I've not been late off. Almost nine hours overtime since then.
Lot more domestics. Not that surprising though as everyone is spending so much time together (I'm pleased that I can go to work as I'm sure my girlfriend is as it would be s
t otherwise!). Today I heard of my first RTC though which surprised me (at least in my patch). I was expecting more as people are making the most of the empty roads
I have a load of PPE in my office for the cops. The policy changed massively yesterday as a result of some new guidance. All my cops now have basic masks which they should wear during all interactions with the public.
The masks are crap single use things and the cops have been told to use them for a full shift. I’m really not sure if re using a mask is better than no mask at all?
Each patrol car also has single use PPE kits in it for jobs that have suspected or confirmed Covid cases. These have better masks, goggles, gloves, disposal kits.
In my office I have more comprehensive kits for dealing with sudden deaths and non compliant people with known or suspected covid. I also have a fairly small stock of spare kit to replenish kits.
The cops all have personal issue sanitizer and there’s more and wipes all over the nick and in the cars.
The most debatable part of the new guidance is that all my cops now have to be single crewed and avoid each other to reduce the risk of infection. This has angered the cops greatly and caused me a lot of concern as their job is basically responding to risky jobs in a large city.
I’ve told them if single crewing means 3 or 4 cars go to jobs then that’s what we do. I don’t care what the public think this looks like. Safety is the most important thing.
The masks are crap single use things and the cops have been told to use them for a full shift. I’m really not sure if re using a mask is better than no mask at all?
Each patrol car also has single use PPE kits in it for jobs that have suspected or confirmed Covid cases. These have better masks, goggles, gloves, disposal kits.
In my office I have more comprehensive kits for dealing with sudden deaths and non compliant people with known or suspected covid. I also have a fairly small stock of spare kit to replenish kits.
The cops all have personal issue sanitizer and there’s more and wipes all over the nick and in the cars.
The most debatable part of the new guidance is that all my cops now have to be single crewed and avoid each other to reduce the risk of infection. This has angered the cops greatly and caused me a lot of concern as their job is basically responding to risky jobs in a large city.
I’ve told them if single crewing means 3 or 4 cars go to jobs then that’s what we do. I don’t care what the public think this looks like. Safety is the most important thing.
Question for you BIB: presumably drug use is going up as people are stuck at home & smoking masses of weed(??)
Edit: looks like the 'do-as-you-likeys' are having a field day: https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/s...
Edit: looks like the 'do-as-you-likeys' are having a field day: https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/s...
Edited by Biker 1 on Wednesday 8th April 16:46
ED209 said:
2 GKC said:
Lot of them "working" from home.
Yup. I find that the usual suspects now have “reasons” to work from home whilst us street warriors have no choice and just crack on. I’m non deployable anyway, because I’m still injured, I’ve got to use crutches to get about and my personal safety/first aid tickets have both time expired. Me not being in a building means there’s one less bum on a seat, meaning it’s making the distancing slightly easier for those in the office. We normally sit on banks of desks, now it’s “every other” desk to maintain 2 metres between people.
Most of the uniform response cops are now working 12 hour shifts and instead of two earlies, two lates, two nights (then four rest days), they’re working three 7am-7pm days and three 7pm-7am nights. Most of them are absolutely buggered from the extended tours, while at the same time more worried about what they’re getting sent to/who they’re in contact with.
As Ed209 says, most are single crewed. Where they have to be double crewed, Like ARVs, they have to wear masks all the time. All patrol staff have to have masks and gloves with them (so carried on their person, not in a vehicle or back at the nick). Where suspect interviews are being done, everyone has to wear a mask - suspect, officer(s), solicitor, translator, appropriate adult. It makes interviewing much, much more difficult (it’s all relative, it’s still magnitudes easier than being a 24/7 response cop).
Kitchens are out of bounds and cleaners are only doing communal areas of the nick. Officers/staff with their own desks are responsible for cleaning their own desk/keyboard/phone/chair arms, with sanitiser, wipes and paper towels in each office. Canteens (the few that are still left) are closed and the gyms are also out of bounds. The one thing they’ve not closed down (yet) are showers, as people continue to run/walk/cycle to work, but they’re getting cleaned much more often as well, rather than once a day.
The more I hear about, particularly 'front line' people like police, NHS etc, the more it becomes obvious that pretty substantial tax rises will be needed at the end of this. If, as usual, Joe Average gets hit in the wallet AGAIN, & the super-rich don't get massive tax rises, I wouldn't want to be a copper. The potential public order issues could be grim.....
Biker 1 said:
The more I hear about, particularly 'front line' people like police, NHS etc, the more it becomes obvious that pretty substantial tax rises will be needed at the end of this. If, as usual, Joe Average gets hit in the wallet AGAIN, & the super-rich don't get massive tax rises, I wouldn't want to be a copper. The potential public order issues could be grim.....
The country will be pretty near skint when this is all over. There will have to be tax hikes for everybody in order to get some funds back into the kitty. Everybody will be hit in the wallet.Greendubber said:
Pothole said:
Hmmm. Not following your logic. It WAS available and now you've got it. Those particular items are no longer available. (like me saying I've got 400 bog rolls so it's clearly available, kinda thing).
We ordered it, it arrived, we started to run low so ordered it again last week and its started to arrive. Its different brands etc but it's still available. I doubt we've got the jump on everyone else and hoarded it all somewhere.Why cant other forces manage that?
Pothole said:
Greendubber said:
Pothole said:
Hmmm. Not following your logic. It WAS available and now you've got it. Those particular items are no longer available. (like me saying I've got 400 bog rolls so it's clearly available, kinda thing).
We ordered it, it arrived, we started to run low so ordered it again last week and its started to arrive. Its different brands etc but it's still available. I doubt we've got the jump on everyone else and hoarded it all somewhere.Why cant other forces manage that?
I don't say this lightly, but I'm so glad I'm retired albeit medically, now. My hat goes off to those on the front line. As soon as I heard about the lockdown, I just knew that the levels of reporting domestics will go up. The great British public cant handle being with their loved ones over the festive period let alone weeks on end.....light blue touch paper, stand well back!
Stay safe girls and boys.
Stay safe girls and boys.
mrtwisty said:
Greendubber said:
Its house party fking central during the evenings this week. It's going to be chaos over the weekend.
Many fines being issued?king central during the evenings this week. It's going to be chaos over the weekend.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff