Non payment of fuel
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james_gt3rs said:
I can't understand how someone could live without a bank card 
How do you pay for things like car insurance, phoning the bank and arranging transfers or something?
My father still goes in to his local insurance broker. Talks to a representative who no doubt using go compare or some such site. Give him a quote and he pays in cash. How do you pay for things like car insurance, phoning the bank and arranging transfers or something?I have explained this is more expensive but. He had good service from the broker when he had an accident in the past. Says he would rather be able to talk in person with someone.
My dad is mid 70s never sent a text message in his life. Doesn’t have or want the internet. Has no interest in sky TV because all the menus confuse him (uses a TV guide and manually punches channel numbers in on free view), doesn’t have a single direct debit. Simply takes his bills to the post office and pays them.
You can only lead a horse to water you can’t force it to drink. He is old, stubborn and stuck in his ways despite mine and my brothers best efforts he simply isn’t interested.
Whilst I admit these people are getting less and less as they pass. But I imagine it’s still quite a few out there.
MB140 said:
My father still goes in to his local insurance broker. Talks to a representative who no doubt using go compare or some such site. Give him a quote and he pays in cash.
I have explained this is more expensive but. He had good service from the broker when he had an accident in the past. Says he would rather be able to talk in person with someone.
My dad is mid 70s never sent a text message in his life. Doesn’t have or want the internet. Has no interest in sky TV because all the menus confuse him (uses a TV guide and manually punches channel numbers in on free view), doesn’t have a single direct debit. Simply takes his bills to the post office and pays them.
You can only lead a horse to water you can’t force it to drink. He is old, stubborn and stuck in his ways despite mine and my brothers best efforts he simply isn’t interested.
Whilst I admit these people are getting less and less as they pass. But I imagine it’s still quite a few out there.
I am several years older than your father, and I use almost all of the modern stuff. Interweb, smart phone etc etc. I can't stand Whatsapp - it's for 3 year olds isn't it?I have explained this is more expensive but. He had good service from the broker when he had an accident in the past. Says he would rather be able to talk in person with someone.
My dad is mid 70s never sent a text message in his life. Doesn’t have or want the internet. Has no interest in sky TV because all the menus confuse him (uses a TV guide and manually punches channel numbers in on free view), doesn’t have a single direct debit. Simply takes his bills to the post office and pays them.
You can only lead a horse to water you can’t force it to drink. He is old, stubborn and stuck in his ways despite mine and my brothers best efforts he simply isn’t interested.
Whilst I admit these people are getting less and less as they pass. But I imagine it’s still quite a few out there.
Why wouldn't you use this stuff, it makes life easier.
BTW the last line of your post, it should be fewer and fewer. No, it's OK, I am happy to help..
MB140 said:
james_gt3rs said:
I can't understand how someone could live without a bank card How do you pay for things like car insurance, phoning the bank and arranging transfers or something?
My father still goes in to his local insurance broker. Talks to a representative who no doubt using go compare or some such site. Give him a quote and he pays in cash. How do you pay for things like car insurance, phoning the bank and arranging transfers or something?I have explained this is more expensive but. He had good service from the broker when he had an accident in the past. Says he would rather be able to talk in person with someone.
…My dad is mid 70s never sent a text message in his life. Doesn’t have or want the internet. Has no interest in sky TV because all the menus confuse him (uses a TV guide and manually punches channel numbers in on free view), doesn’t have a single direct debit. Simply takes his bills to the post office and pays them.
You can only lead a horse to water you can’t force it to drink. He is old, stubborn and stuck in his ways despite mine and my brothers best efforts he simply isn’t interested.
Whilst I admit these people are getting less and less as they pass. But I imagine it’s still quite a few out there.
The Mad Monk said:
MB140 said:
My father still goes in to his local insurance broker. Talks to a representative who no doubt using go compare or some such site. Give him a quote and he pays in cash.
I have explained this is more expensive but. He had good service from the broker when he had an accident in the past. Says he would rather be able to talk in person with someone.
My dad is mid 70s never sent a text message in his life. Doesn’t have or want the internet. Has no interest in sky TV because all the menus confuse him (uses a TV guide and manually punches channel numbers in on free view), doesn’t have a single direct debit. Simply takes his bills to the post office and pays them.
You can only lead a horse to water you can’t force it to drink. He is old, stubborn and stuck in his ways despite mine and my brothers best efforts he simply isn’t interested.
Whilst I admit these people are getting less and less as they pass. But I imagine it’s still quite a few out there.
I am several years older than your father, and I use almost all of the modern stuff. Interweb, smart phone etc etc. I can't stand Whatsapp - it's for 3 year olds isn't it?I have explained this is more expensive but. He had good service from the broker when he had an accident in the past. Says he would rather be able to talk in person with someone.
My dad is mid 70s never sent a text message in his life. Doesn’t have or want the internet. Has no interest in sky TV because all the menus confuse him (uses a TV guide and manually punches channel numbers in on free view), doesn’t have a single direct debit. Simply takes his bills to the post office and pays them.
You can only lead a horse to water you can’t force it to drink. He is old, stubborn and stuck in his ways despite mine and my brothers best efforts he simply isn’t interested.
Whilst I admit these people are getting less and less as they pass. But I imagine it’s still quite a few out there.
Why wouldn't you use this stuff, it makes life easier.
BTW the last line of your post, it should be fewer and fewer. No, it's OK, I am happy to help..
I have tried to get him to have the internet. Send text messages. The simple fact is he pesky want it. Doesn’t want to send text messages. We bought him one of these mobiles designed for older people. Really simple to use. He ended up smashing it in frustration. I had to buy an old Nokia (non touch screen) for him. Dead simple he gets his address book out. Puts the number in and presses dial.
I know it’s stupid. You know it’s stupid. 99.999% of the world know it’s stupid.
He just isn’t interest in the modern world. Very sad. But hey you can’t choose your family. He is a fantastic loving dad who dedicated his life to his children and I am so proud and happy to be his son. I just have to accept it’s his decision. No mater how frustrating and annoying it can be.
Oh and trust me I have spent hours over the years trying to teach him to text on both the Nokia and touch screen phones. He just isn’t interested.
MB140 said:
james_gt3rs said:
I can't understand how someone could live without a bank card How do you pay for things like car insurance, phoning the bank and arranging transfers or something?
My father still goes in to his local insurance broker. Talks to a representative who no doubt using go compare or some such site. Give him a quote and he pays in cash. How do you pay for things like car insurance, phoning the bank and arranging transfers or something?I have explained this is more expensive but. He had good service from the broker when he had an accident in the past. Says he would rather be able to talk in person with someone.
My dad is mid 70s never sent a text message in his life. Doesn’t have or want the internet. Has no interest in sky TV because all the menus confuse him (uses a TV guide and manually punches channel numbers in on free view), doesn’t have a single direct debit. Simply takes his bills to the post office and pays them.
You can only lead a horse to water you can’t force it to drink. He is old, stubborn and stuck in his ways despite mine and my brothers best efforts he simply isn’t interested.
Whilst I admit these people are getting less and less as they pass. But I imagine it’s still quite a few out there.
I walk into town most days and I constantly see mothers walking along staring into their phones the whole way. Not talking to their kids, or watching what's going on around them. So I can see why the "oldies" don't want to embrace it.
Trevor555 said:
Good on your Dad, mine's the same. He's still got an old Nokia phone and keeps getting told he must be a drug dealer lol..
I walk into town most days and I constantly see mothers walking along staring into their phones the whole way. Not talking to their kids, or watching what's going on around them. So I can see why the "oldies" don't want to embrace it.
Thats probably because they spent ages talking and playing with their kids at home. Also kids like sitting and watching the world go by. I walk into town most days and I constantly see mothers walking along staring into their phones the whole way. Not talking to their kids, or watching what's going on around them. So I can see why the "oldies" don't want to embrace it.
No excuse for not watching where you are going though.
The Mad Monk said:
DoubleD said:
The Mad Monk said:
I can't stand Whatsapp - it's for 3 year olds isn't it?
Why is it about whatsapp that you cant stand?Whatsapp is just texting, but better.
MB140 said:
I had to buy an old Nokia (non touch screen) for him. Dead simple he gets his address book out. Puts the number in and presses dial.
I have a friend like that. Couple of years back, I was working at a rugby ground, I had a couple of spare (free) tickets. I phoned him, he said he would have them. He didn't turn up. Eventually I had a message to say he was at one of the gates. I went down there, he had my number on a piece of paper - with too many characters in the number! I asked him why he didn't put my number into the phone and save it - 'I don't know how to do that' he said.All the organisations of which I am a member seem to have one person who refuses to be on the internet. Some people don't/won't come into the twentieth century, let alone the twentyfirst!
Breadvan72 said:
I am glad that you got it sorted, OP, and I agree that all the high horsery is misplaced. You made a small blunder, and have now resolved it. Yep, a card is useful.
Quite, but the days of PH being a place primarily for car enthusiasts are long gone. It's now riddled with those whose main contribution is trading insults and have very little constructive to offer.
Good result, OP!
Shame you haven't still got the receipt - that would have put you clear of all this.Do I get some sort of a prize? 
Drive it fix it repeat said:
I've been back Into the petrol station that this all began at. Spoke to the same cashier that I dealt with when I couldnt pay for the fuel. They had the paperwork there that I filled out and also when I went back to settle the debt, with PAID written over it.
Issue seems to be that the cashier who I spoke to when I settled the debt failed to process it correctly hence the confusion. It was obvious to the petrol station manager that I had settled the outstanding amount, they tried contacting I think the debt collection agency. Presumably that wasnt as straight forward as they had hoped as I was then taken over to the general store to speak with one of the managers their.
Very nice bloke who apologised profusely, has taken my contact info and is dealing with the matter personally ASAP. I will be cc'd into his email correspondence with the debt collection firm, he expects it to now be dealt with and set straight quickly and easily.
In the second response on this thread, I said...Issue seems to be that the cashier who I spoke to when I settled the debt failed to process it correctly hence the confusion. It was obvious to the petrol station manager that I had settled the outstanding amount, they tried contacting I think the debt collection agency. Presumably that wasnt as straight forward as they had hoped as I was then taken over to the general store to speak with one of the managers their.
Very nice bloke who apologised profusely, has taken my contact info and is dealing with the matter personally ASAP. I will be cc'd into his email correspondence with the debt collection firm, he expects it to now be dealt with and set straight quickly and easily.
MorganP104 said:
KAgantua said:
Sorry mate IMO laughing boy behind the jump has trousered your payment.
It's either this, or an honest mistake (the cashier put the cash in the till, but failed to do the "this bloke has paid" paperwork).Shame you haven't still got the receipt - that would have put you clear of all this.
MorganP104 said:
Good result, OP!
Shame you haven't still got the receipt - that would have put you clear of all this.Do I get some sort of a prize?
I can't believe people were suggesting he just pay up because it "wasn't worth the hassle." when surely in 99/100 cases or more, its a mistake that the retailer has made which triggers an automatic process for which they don't have a check of "Hey - did we actually get the money from this guy?" in store, but which can be resolved quickly and easily. The OP having lost the receipt is the outlier in these scenarios. Drive it fix it repeat said:
I've been back Into the petrol station that this all began at. Spoke to the same cashier that I dealt with when I couldnt pay for the fuel. They had the paperwork there that I filled out and also when I went back to settle the debt, with PAID written over it.
Issue seems to be that the cashier who I spoke to when I settled the debt failed to process it correctly hence the confusion. It was obvious to the petrol station manager that I had settled the outstanding amount, they tried contacting I think the debt collection agency. Presumably that wasnt as straight forward as they had hoped as I was then taken over to the general store to speak with one of the managers their.
Very nice bloke who apologised profusely, has taken my contact info and is dealing with the matter personally ASAP. I will be cc'd into his email correspondence with the debt collection firm, he expects it to now be dealt with and set straight quickly and easily.
In the second response on this thread, I said...Issue seems to be that the cashier who I spoke to when I settled the debt failed to process it correctly hence the confusion. It was obvious to the petrol station manager that I had settled the outstanding amount, they tried contacting I think the debt collection agency. Presumably that wasnt as straight forward as they had hoped as I was then taken over to the general store to speak with one of the managers their.
Very nice bloke who apologised profusely, has taken my contact info and is dealing with the matter personally ASAP. I will be cc'd into his email correspondence with the debt collection firm, he expects it to now be dealt with and set straight quickly and easily.
MorganP104 said:
KAgantua said:
Sorry mate IMO laughing boy behind the jump has trousered your payment.
It's either this, or an honest mistake (the cashier put the cash in the till, but failed to do the "this bloke has paid" paperwork).Shame you haven't still got the receipt - that would have put you clear of all this.
Tom _M said:
Although slightly away from the forgetting the wallet scenario, I remember there was a garage in Wolverhampton a few years back that had some stinger- type spike things installed that they could raise up from the ground if someone tried to drive off without paying. I’m not sure if they were ever deployed in anger, and it did strike me as a bit of a liability nightmare. The idea seemed to quietly disappear over time anyway.
I'm not the most sympathetic for petrol stations that complain of fuel theft, but don't take steps to prevent it, they are clearly making a business decision that forces all customers into the shop with the hope they will buy a sandwich is worth more than the predicted stolen fuel.I much prefer to use a pay at pump, near my work a brand new shell garage has opened, but without pay at pump, whereas the sainsburys 0.5 miles away has recently refurbished all the pumps to include pay at pump, my business goes to the sainsbury's as it is much quicker. (Particularly with the 2m queue and limits inside shops)
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