Make a mistake 7 yrs deliberatly reckless 14 month
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When some poor deluded idiot stayed up all night talking to a pottential new girlfreind on the internet. Then drove the following day and finished up on the railway track causing lots of people to die. (Obviously with contibutory negligence from railtrack and the highways agency slimeballs) The poor sad git got 7 years and his entire life ruined.
Some little shit of a painter and decorator drove for miles down the wrong side of the M62 and the M60 finshing up doing a runner after completing over a mile AFTER the stinger was deployed. Nobody died even though he did 110 MPH.
Speed Kills? Utter crap. I wonder if the lenience is due to fact that some cop geve chase in the first place. Is it time to scrap police persuits? :D
Some little shit of a painter and decorator drove for miles down the wrong side of the M62 and the M60 finshing up doing a runner after completing over a mile AFTER the stinger was deployed. Nobody died even though he did 110 MPH.
Speed Kills? Utter crap. I wonder if the lenience is due to fact that some cop geve chase in the first place. Is it time to scrap police persuits? :D
I saw this story too - 110 mph the wrong way down the motorway. Madness.
www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/162/162546_110mph_drivers_wrong_way_getaway_bid.html
www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/162/162546_110mph_drivers_wrong_way_getaway_bid.html
Ist unbelievable... 110 mph on approach to J13 M60 too 
Ist narrow lane if I recall...
Und
he does not know how he got on wrong side of carriageway und "he was suffereuing from breakdown after splitting mit long-time partner" 
Und only 14 months.... for driving so dangerously...
Higher Speed ist safe - so long as ist applied mit COAST skills - und driving on wrong side of motoeway after claiming drink was spiked und being a jilted John per last night't "MEN" ...should have got bit longer und a long ban und a retest after excpiry of ban...
Ist narrow lane if I recall... Und
he does not know how he got on wrong side of carriageway und "he was suffereuing from breakdown after splitting mit long-time partner" Und only 14 months.... for driving so dangerously...
Higher Speed ist safe - so long as ist applied mit COAST skills - und driving on wrong side of motoeway after claiming drink was spiked und being a jilted John per last night't "MEN" ...should have got bit longer und a long ban und a retest after excpiry of ban...
Its a very difficult one to answer.
Almost everyone on this site (myself included) thinks that high fines, bans and imprisonment are ludicrous for the crimes of speeding when the "potentially could have killed and maimed" arguments are used by the CPS and the media.
And yet this is an example of the same thing taken to the nth degree, as he didn't actually hurt anyone (apart from the copper with the sore jaw).
On the other hand the sleepy chap did actually, unintentionally, kill people and that is manslaughter no matter which way you look at it. That said I dont know the full details of that case and if you are saying that the HA and Rail folk are culpable in some sort of corporate manslaughter fashion then fair enough, but they didnt make him get in the car that day.
Almost everyone on this site (myself included) thinks that high fines, bans and imprisonment are ludicrous for the crimes of speeding when the "potentially could have killed and maimed" arguments are used by the CPS and the media.
And yet this is an example of the same thing taken to the nth degree, as he didn't actually hurt anyone (apart from the copper with the sore jaw).
On the other hand the sleepy chap did actually, unintentionally, kill people and that is manslaughter no matter which way you look at it. That said I dont know the full details of that case and if you are saying that the HA and Rail folk are culpable in some sort of corporate manslaughter fashion then fair enough, but they didnt make him get in the car that day.
xm5er said:
And yet this is an example of the same thing taken to the nth degree, as he didn't actually hurt anyone (apart from the copper with the sore jaw).
Thats cool then, I think I'll just go for a quick drive on the wrong side of the road. Provided I don't hit anybody, its perfectly safe.
parrot of doom said:
And yet this is an example of the same thing taken to the nth degree, as he didn't actually hurt anyone (apart from the copper with the sore jaw).
Thats cool then, I think I'll just go for a quick drive on the wrong side of the road. Provided I don't hit anybody, its perfectly safe.
That isn't the point I'm making, please enter the spirit of the debate, we were talking about the comparison of two sentences for different crimes.
Further to your question "is it time to end police pursuits?" I would say certainly not.
As it stands extremely few people fly up the motorway in the wrong direction but imagine what would happen if every criminal knew that if he headed down the wrong carriageway the police would not follow!
As it stands extremely few people fly up the motorway in the wrong direction but imagine what would happen if every criminal knew that if he headed down the wrong carriageway the police would not follow!
blindswelledrat said:
Further to your question "is it time to end police pursuits?" I would say certainly not.
As it stands extremely few people fly up the motorway in the wrong direction but imagine what would happen if every criminal knew that if he headed down the wrong carriageway the police would not follow!
Where's he going then? Close the M'way at the next junction and deploy stingers - QED. Utilisation of this wonderful new technology called radio
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