Who are these guys?
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Anyone come up the A5 towards Staples Corner forst thing in the morning recently? A handy layby has been crawling with around 20 hi-vis clad DVLA reps for a couple of mornings this week. Saw them there late last year as well. The pull in a car or two and get the driver out for a chat / have a look at the motor.
Theres no BIB's parked further up the road but there may be a couple mixed in with the hi-vis mob of bodies milling around at the stop site
What's their game?
Theres no BIB's parked further up the road but there may be a couple mixed in with the hi-vis mob of bodies milling around at the stop site
What's their game?
Just don't stop.
Your meant to be driving keeping eye on road, didn't see them, you fear they may be organised terrorists.
Thought they were pointing at someone else/signalling to friend/road engineers.
This isn't in the highway code to stop for them is it.
If Plod come after you with blues and twos on, then stop, apologise. Tis not illegal to stop for them, just it is legal for them to stop you!?
Hmmmm, sounds like a waste of your time, with random people asking searching questions like you've done something wrong.
Legally you have to carry no documents, so surely all they need to know can be had through ANPR and DVLA database?
If not registered, send Plod after you?
Sounds like alot of effort to catch people without an MOT!
Dave
Your meant to be driving keeping eye on road, didn't see them, you fear they may be organised terrorists.
Thought they were pointing at someone else/signalling to friend/road engineers.
This isn't in the highway code to stop for them is it.
If Plod come after you with blues and twos on, then stop, apologise. Tis not illegal to stop for them, just it is legal for them to stop you!?
Hmmmm, sounds like a waste of your time, with random people asking searching questions like you've done something wrong.
Legally you have to carry no documents, so surely all they need to know can be had through ANPR and DVLA database?
If not registered, send Plod after you?
Sounds like alot of effort to catch people without an MOT!
Dave
Sorry but you have to stop for VOSA officials. They have been granted powers to stop your vehicle and inspect it whenever they wish. They don't need police presence but sometimes have one or two around to help smooth things over, as sometimes people can get irate when stopped by a non police officer. It's far easier to co-operate with them and be on your way with minimal fuss, as opposed to coping an attitude with them and spending an hour or so having your car scrutinised in every minute detail.
Edited to add link to VOSA site
www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/carlgvowners/vosaroadsidechecks/powerstostopfaq.htm
>> Edited by wolf1 on Friday 17th June 18:22
Edited to add link to VOSA site
www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/carlgvowners/vosaroadsidechecks/powerstostopfaq.htm
>> Edited by wolf1 on Friday 17th June 18:22
From the VOSA website...
"
What training have VOSA officers had?
They have been trained by North Wales Police in driving techniques and also stopping vehicles both on foot and using a marked vehicle."
Yes, you read it folks, North Wales Police, and we all know who runs that shower don't we?
Well Mr VOSA, if you want to stop me, you can follow me to the nearest Police Station, as i'm totally ignorant as to who you are and what your purpose is.
>> Edited by monkeyhanger on Friday 17th June 18:33
"
What training have VOSA officers had?
They have been trained by North Wales Police in driving techniques and also stopping vehicles both on foot and using a marked vehicle."
Yes, you read it folks, North Wales Police, and we all know who runs that shower don't we?
Well Mr VOSA, if you want to stop me, you can follow me to the nearest Police Station, as i'm totally ignorant as to who you are and what your purpose is.
>> Edited by monkeyhanger on Friday 17th June 18:33
monkeyhanger said:
From the VOSA website...
"
What training have VOSA officers had?
They have been trained by North Wales Police in driving techniques and also stopping vehicles both on foot and using a marked vehicle."
Yes, you read it folks, North Wales Police, and we all know who runs that shower don't we?
Well Mr VOSA, if you want to stop me, you can follow me to the nearest Police Station, as i'm totally ignorant as to who you are and what your purpose is.
>> Edited by monkeyhanger on Friday 17th June 18:33
Amen brother! I aint stopping for NO ONE unless its a cop.
What is needed is for a few of these parasites to finish up on a ventilator then pretty soon the government will have a rethink. They only pick on motorists cos we dont fight back. It would not take much, just set a few scumra vans on fire and give the contents a kicking as happened in Bala. Taking a leaf out of the animal rights protestors book is the way forward.
nonegreen said:
What is needed is for a few of these parasites to finish up on a ventilator then pretty soon the government will have a rethink. They only pick on motorists cos we dont fight back. It would not take much, just set a few scumra vans on fire and give the contents a kicking as happened in Bala. Taking a leaf out of the animal rights protestors book is the way forward.
nonegreen said:
What is needed is for a few of these parasites to finish up on a ventilator then pretty soon the government will have a rethink. They only pick on motorists cos we dont fight back. It would not take much, just set a few scumra vans on fire and give the contents a kicking as happened in Bala. Taking a leaf out of the animal rights protestors book is the way forward.
Hmmm. I take it that isn't your vehicle with VRN displayed on your profile then? If it is then somewhat brave of you with those comments.
Many VOSA round our way are ex traffic and vehicle examiners.
At any stops the vehicles are prominently displayed and full uniforms worn as required.
Whilst no fan of the cameraships I do not support your view at all, and especially re VOSA which are the subject of this thread.
Disgusted,
FiF
>> Edited by Flat in Fifth on Sunday 19th June 22:22
This is a site that we use quite often now...and there will be more in the future.
I did 2 checks there with VOSA last week and we had some startling results.
We are of course stopping Vans and Lorrys (Mainly Tippers).
Vosa are now well equipped with ANPR etc and they do have power to stop vehicles.
I cant see many Hgv's not stopping because all that will happen is a nice friendly letter to the Traffic Commissioner and that would cause all sorts of problems for the Operator.
On these checks, we generally have 2 Trafpol cars lurking around the corner (A5 or Brent X) just in case anyone fancies making a run for it.
I must say though......these VOSA chaps are very nice people and from my experience not as tough as a Trafpol.
I did 2 checks there with VOSA last week and we had some startling results.
We are of course stopping Vans and Lorrys (Mainly Tippers).
Vosa are now well equipped with ANPR etc and they do have power to stop vehicles.
I cant see many Hgv's not stopping because all that will happen is a nice friendly letter to the Traffic Commissioner and that would cause all sorts of problems for the Operator.
On these checks, we generally have 2 Trafpol cars lurking around the corner (A5 or Brent X) just in case anyone fancies making a run for it.
I must say though......these VOSA chaps are very nice people and from my experience not as tough as a Trafpol.
Yep, VOSA Inspectors can be a pain but they are doing a good service really.
I think they do a sterling job keeping dangerous work vans and lorries from the roads.
ne thing I don;t agree with though is the road survey rubbish. I've heard of people being stopped and asked questions on a raod before and that they had to answer? Which I thought was strange.
I think they do a sterling job keeping dangerous work vans and lorries from the roads.
ne thing I don;t agree with though is the road survey rubbish. I've heard of people being stopped and asked questions on a raod before and that they had to answer? Which I thought was strange.
Checking for MOT's
Why not use ANPR?
This is just stupid.
Does it say to stop for them in the highway code book, or are we just "supposed to know"?
I'd only stop for a Plod with blues and two's to be honest. Bugger the stop check.
All they do is fanny around looking at your car to realise it's totally ok, and MORE than likely if you look annoyed or not cooperative, they'll probably be arses and try find something that they make up wrong with your car.
Had enough run-ins with "people with the power to stop you", and usually they just spout bollarks and try and wind you up, or just scare you.
Why is it these days it's no longer innocent until proven guilty, but assumed guilty until you can prove your innocence?
These VOSA lot are good chaps when it comes to MOT's and claiming for dodgy garages work and the like, but in this case I can only assume they are out to catch people, and with this "target" orientated approach we see they'll do anything to meet those targets!
Just look at this latest union jack flag on the plate example!
Just a joke. VOSA, Plod, Inland revenue. They all stop you on the off chance they can catch a criminal to boost their figures or catch "token" criminals who otherwise have done nothing really wrong, when 95% of the time they just frustrate innocent people being treated like criminals and having to prove themselves innocent!
Won't find me being rogered by them. If they want my details and MOT they can use a Plod to come bloody pull me over.
Not wasting my time doing their frikkin jobs for them just to prove myself!
Dave
Why not use ANPR?
This is just stupid.
Does it say to stop for them in the highway code book, or are we just "supposed to know"?
I'd only stop for a Plod with blues and two's to be honest. Bugger the stop check.
All they do is fanny around looking at your car to realise it's totally ok, and MORE than likely if you look annoyed or not cooperative, they'll probably be arses and try find something that they make up wrong with your car.
Had enough run-ins with "people with the power to stop you", and usually they just spout bollarks and try and wind you up, or just scare you.
Why is it these days it's no longer innocent until proven guilty, but assumed guilty until you can prove your innocence?
These VOSA lot are good chaps when it comes to MOT's and claiming for dodgy garages work and the like, but in this case I can only assume they are out to catch people, and with this "target" orientated approach we see they'll do anything to meet those targets!
Just look at this latest union jack flag on the plate example!
Just a joke. VOSA, Plod, Inland revenue. They all stop you on the off chance they can catch a criminal to boost their figures or catch "token" criminals who otherwise have done nothing really wrong, when 95% of the time they just frustrate innocent people being treated like criminals and having to prove themselves innocent!
Won't find me being rogered by them. If they want my details and MOT they can use a Plod to come bloody pull me over.
Not wasting my time doing their frikkin jobs for them just to prove myself!
Dave
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