Fined for having a St George flag

Fined for having a St George flag

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DriveFree

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50 posts

232 months

Sunday 19th June 2005
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What a disgrace: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=352842&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source=

England arise!!!

8Pack

5,182 posts

241 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Hope that the jobsworth copper never goes to Scotland then!

cortinaman

3,230 posts

254 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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thats just f*****g pathetic!

he sounds like the sort of tosser who nicks steamroller drivers for using a vehicle with 3 bald tyres.


streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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cortinaman said:
he sounds like the sort of tosser who nicks steamroller drivers for using a vehicle with 3 bald tyres.
Showing your age here ... I believe they're called "road-rollers" now. Funny how names stick.

Anyone else feel that the quote: "The other driver told me he was a police officer and said he had gone through an amber light and I should not have followed him." is illuminating of the "one law for us and one for everyone else" behaviour by some police officers that is being mentioned in SP&L with increasing frequency these past months.

Streaky

apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Another nail in the coffin for police public relations, where on earth do they find them.
Is it me or is this obsession with rules and regulations a British thing?

puggit

48,476 posts

249 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regmarks/reg_marks_current_requirements.htm#europlate

dvla said:
Since 1st September 2001 there has been an optional provision for the display of a Euro-plate for vehicles registered in the UK. The Euro-plate is a number plate that incorporates the symbol of the European Union (a circle of 12 stars on a blue background) with the national identification letters of the member states below. This symbol is located on the far left-hand side of the number plate.

Vehicles displaying this symbol no longer have to use the traditional oval shaped national identifier (GB) sticker when travelling within the European Union. All vehicles registered in England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales have, by international convention, the distinguishing sign GB.

The Government announced on 28 December 2001 the intention to permit the display of national flags and national identifiers on vehicle number plates. The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001 are in the process of being amended. They will provide for the voluntary display of the Union flag, Scottish Saltire, Cross of St George and Red Dragon. Football team crests etc are not allowed.

pdV6

16,442 posts

262 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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puggit said:
www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regmarks/reg_marks_current_requirements.htm#europlate
dvla said:

The Government announced on 28 December 2001 the intention to permit the display of national flags and national identifiers on vehicle number plates. The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001 are in the process of being amended. They will provide for the voluntary display of the Union flag, Scottish Saltire, Cross of St George and Red Dragon. Football team crests etc are not allowed.



That's the problem, though; this has never made it into the "rules" officially despite the DVLA's intention...

Sounds to me like PC Jobsworth was after anything to nick him for just to "teach him a lesson" for running the amber light (just as PC J did) and then having the temerity to overtake him!

As a matter of interest, why did the guy pull over for an unmarked car with an out-of-uniform BiB driving it?

Something just doesn't add up about this whole story...

telecat

8,528 posts

242 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Greater Manchester Police say no more.

Apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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He could book him for running an amber light, it happened to a neighbour of mine. Mind you he'd have to book himself then wouldn't he

gone

6,649 posts

264 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Apache said:
He could book him for running an amber light, it happened to a neighbour of mine. Mind you he'd have to book himself then wouldn't he


Not if St George was so close behind him he went through to avoid a collision !

Reading between the lines I suspect this was about the attitude of St George!

Nick_F

10,154 posts

247 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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gone said:

Apache said:
He could book him for running an amber light, it happened to a neighbour of mine. Mind you he'd have to book himself then wouldn't he



Not if St George was so close behind him he went through to avoid a collision !

Reading between the lines I suspect this was about the attitude of St George!


Has anyone, ever, been successful in using that as a defence when charged with running a traffic light?

I'd be staggered if they have.

havoc

30,086 posts

236 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Notice the comment from Manc Police: "We'll have to look at the exact wording of the law..."

In other words, the poor bugger won't get off if the above amendment never made it onto statute, regardless of the intended spirit!!!

Apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Nick_F said:

gone said:


Apache said:
He could book him for running an amber light, it happened to a neighbour of mine. Mind you he'd have to book himself then wouldn't he




Not if St George was so close behind him he went through to avoid a collision !

Reading between the lines I suspect this was about the attitude of St George!



Has anyone, ever, been successful in using that as a defence when charged with running a traffic light?

I'd be staggered if they have.


didn't work for my neighbour, mind you he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed

Dibble

12,938 posts

241 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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pdV6 said:
As a matter of interest, why did the guy pull over for an unmarked car with an out-of-uniform BiB driving it?


It says unmarked car in the article, it doesn't say whether or not the PC was on or off duty, or in uniform or not.

targarama

14,635 posts

284 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Nick_F said:

gone said:


Apache said:
He could book him for running an amber light, it happened to a neighbour of mine. Mind you he'd have to book himself then wouldn't he




Not if St George was so close behind him he went through to avoid a collision !

Reading between the lines I suspect this was about the attitude of St George!



Has anyone, ever, been successful in using that as a defence when charged with running a traffic light?

I'd be staggered if they have.


I have. Scunthorpe, 11:30 one Saturday, me in a MK1 Shedscort, 5 up on the way to a nightclub. Police party van turning right, me going straight. Light turns orange too late to stop without doing an emergency stop and I keep going. Police party van follows me and pulls me. Explained I did not think it was safe to stop due to cars behind etc. They let me off. I think they wanted to check I was kosher and not drunk or anything too - which I wasn't, I'd just finished work in a pub though...