crazy ban.imho
Discussion
3yrs ago i was driving an integrale at approx 2000hrs up a hill in high wycombe...its a dual carriageway. with a central res. 40mph signage halfway up. caught at 53 mph in what apparently was a 30.ie before sign:have to assume its 30 until you see the 40 sign. cop pulls me over, i am not sure what for. still not sure..then he tells me i have been speeding....and AM going to be BANNED!!!. i said i'm not so sure officer,here is my insurannce and documents etc nil previous convictions,respectable community member etc. go to court. previous CLEAN LICENSE!, ie nil point. magistrate tells me since over 21 o'er limit i must be banned...2 week ban. I know its far to late to sort it but thats outrageous,isn't it?
yeh . fair point.but what about all these tts with no insurance ,nicked car etc etc , if caught they still just get a ban. you'd really have to see the road i am talking about. still makes me angry. always have to say ,instead of NO to all insurance questions...have to explain some weird ban.
bigtone said:
I was always under the impression it was nearer 30 over the limit for an automatic ban, ie something like 97 in a 70?
It used to be limit+30 was ban territory, but the margin has come down, and there are typically bans coming in for limit+25. Limit+21 seems a bit harsh, unless this is for 30 limits.
(I avoided a ban on a 100 (70+30) many moons ago, but was clean license, nice day, light traffic etc. Don't think I'd still keep my license now).
Had the story of Parky getting busted for 110MPH on the motorway the other day. Gets away with nothing, not even a fine, on a technicality.... So thats 40MPH over and he avoids everything....
Yet you get a 21 day ban for 21MPH... seems extremely harsh and doesnt add up. God our legal system is so screwed its frightening....
Yet you get a 21 day ban for 21MPH... seems extremely harsh and doesnt add up. God our legal system is so screwed its frightening....
not sure how this works if you can't afford Nick Freeman, but I was caught at 76 in a 40 (Temp Speed limit on a three lane motorway at 2:00am with no other traffic), ended up with £300 fine and 6 points. More than 30mph over, and almost double the speed limit.
I counted myself very lucky, although annoyed for allowing myself to be caught.
Perhaps they realised that the speed limit was incorrect for the road at that time of night? Doubt it though - think I was just lucky.
I counted myself very lucky, although annoyed for allowing myself to be caught.
Perhaps they realised that the speed limit was incorrect for the road at that time of night? Doubt it though - think I was just lucky.
pneumothorax said:
yeh . fair point.but what about all these tts with no insurance ,nicked car etc etc , if caught they still just get a ban. you'd really have to see the road i am talking about. still makes me angry. always have to say ,instead of NO to all insurance questions...have to explain some weird ban.
Had you not noticed?
The 30mph is right outside a school AND a hospital on the other side!
That is if you were caught going up the hill.
The signs are clearly visible prior to the roundabout at the bottom. It is a 30mph until past the school and the hospital
How many on this board bang on about speed enforcement outside schools? !!!
>> Edited by gone on Tuesday 21st June 15:23
it is a boarding school so the kids live there... thats why you hardly ever see them...i have never seen ANYONE cross this road. apart from the zebra crossing at the bottom. when i got done there was no 30mph sign,it appeared 2 weeks after my day in court.i was done on the "you have to assume its a 30 because there are street lights" and the 40mph is half way up hill. also you'd be lucky to do 5mph when schools right at top of hill are chucking out. having said all of that, i accept that i was speeding however much i dont like it,it wasn't a fair cop but you have to accept it as an occupational hazard of driving imho normally.
gone said:
cooperman said:
And some pople wonder why some banned drivers continue to drive!
There is no wonder why they still drive. The fun is in catching them and seeing the results
Sorry, I don't quite see why it's fun to catch someone who has been deprived of the right to drive on some spurious decision of some less-than-intelligent magistrate that a driver deserved it because he exceeded some arbitrary limit a few times, not necessarily dangerously, and the driver was so desparate to keep his home, job, career, marriage, maintain his kids, etc, etc, that he decided to take the risk, bad though his decision to do may be perceived as being.
If minor motoring offences result in out-of-proportion sentances compared with other crimes, then it's what society should not be surprised at.
I don't include the catching of those banned for taking and driving away, DD, etc, just Mr. High-mileage business driver who gets unlucky a few times over a 3-year period.
Show a little empathy, gone, even if, as we all appreciate, you have to do your job properly. I mean, you don't have to get fun out of catching someone like I describe, even though you do have to catch them.
Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff