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pneumothorax

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1,318 posts

232 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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3yrs ago i was driving an integrale at approx 2000hrs up a hill in high wycombe...its a dual carriageway. with a central res. 40mph signage halfway up. caught at 53 mph in what apparently was a 30.ie before sign:have to assume its 30 until you see the 40 sign. cop pulls me over, i am not sure what for. still not sure..then he tells me i have been speeding....and AM going to be BANNED!!!. i said i'm not so sure officer,here is my insurannce and documents etc nil previous convictions,respectable community member etc. go to court. previous CLEAN LICENSE!, ie nil point. magistrate tells me since over 21 o'er limit i must be banned...2 week ban. I know its far to late to sort it but thats outrageous,isn't it?

john_p

7,073 posts

251 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Yeah it sucks, but hey, at least no points

pneumothorax

Original Poster:

1,318 posts

232 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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yeh . fair point.but what about all these tts with no insurance ,nicked car etc etc , if caught they still just get a ban. you'd really have to see the road i am talking about. still makes me angry. always have to say ,instead of NO to all insurance questions...have to explain some weird ban.

bigtone

1,211 posts

285 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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I was always under the impression it was nearer 30 over the limit for an automatic ban, ie something like 97 in a 70?

Know what you mean with that hill though... Good time to take a holiday?

What will it do to your insurance?

regmolehusband

3,967 posts

258 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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This space is intentionally empty cos I said something stupid

>> Edited by regmolehusband on Monday 20th June 22:38

john_p

7,073 posts

251 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Which hill was it? I live near HW.
I can probably guess though.

Size Nine Elm

5,167 posts

285 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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bigtone said:
I was always under the impression it was nearer 30 over the limit for an automatic ban, ie something like 97 in a 70?

It used to be limit+30 was ban territory, but the margin has come down, and there are typically bans coming in for limit+25. Limit+21 seems a bit harsh, unless this is for 30 limits.

(I avoided a ban on a 100 (70+30) many moons ago, but was clean license, nice day, light traffic etc. Don't think I'd still keep my license now).

targarama

14,636 posts

284 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Oh dear, A404 Marlow Hill I guess. Tallivan permanent parking spot now - on the uphill FFS. It is a 30 limit and very obviously so though, so at 53 you did deserve something, but a ban - probably not.

pneumothorax

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1,318 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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yep,marlow hill..another question...why have they always got cameras on the way up the hill?cant see why this hill is targeted, it is not a blackspot.

outrider

352 posts

246 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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You should've used Nick Freeman

off_again

12,371 posts

235 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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Had the story of Parky getting busted for 110MPH on the motorway the other day. Gets away with nothing, not even a fine, on a technicality.... So thats 40MPH over and he avoids everything....

Yet you get a 21 day ban for 21MPH... seems extremely harsh and doesnt add up. God our legal system is so screwed its frightening....

Fats25

6,260 posts

230 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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not sure how this works if you can't afford Nick Freeman, but I was caught at 76 in a 40 (Temp Speed limit on a three lane motorway at 2:00am with no other traffic), ended up with £300 fine and 6 points. More than 30mph over, and almost double the speed limit.

I counted myself very lucky, although annoyed for allowing myself to be caught.

Perhaps they realised that the speed limit was incorrect for the road at that time of night? Doubt it though - think I was just lucky.

gone

6,649 posts

264 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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pneumothorax said:
yeh . fair point.but what about all these tts with no insurance ,nicked car etc etc , if caught they still just get a ban. you'd really have to see the road i am talking about. still makes me angry. always have to say ,instead of NO to all insurance questions...have to explain some weird ban.



Had you not noticed?

The 30mph is right outside a school AND a hospital on the other side!

That is if you were caught going up the hill.

The signs are clearly visible prior to the roundabout at the bottom. It is a 30mph until past the school and the hospital

How many on this board bang on about speed enforcement outside schools? !!!

>> Edited by gone on Tuesday 21st June 15:23

ATG

20,684 posts

273 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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gone said:
How many on this board bang on about speed enforcement outside schools? !!!
True, but this was at 8pm...

s2art

18,938 posts

254 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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Got to admit, I think this enforcement outside schools is a red herring. FFS, at start and kick out time it is difficut to move let alone speed, at lesson time the kids are mostly trapped inside. I guess the only dangerous period would be lunch break time.

gone

6,649 posts

264 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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ATG said:

gone said:
How many on this board bang on about speed enforcement outside schools? !!!

True, but this was at 8pm...


Its a boarding school!
Kids around at all times

cooperman

4,428 posts

251 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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And some pople wonder why some banned drivers continue to drive!

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264 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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cooperman said:
And some pople wonder why some banned drivers continue to drive!


There is no wonder why they still drive. The fun is in catching them and seeing the results

pneumothorax

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1,318 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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it is a boarding school so the kids live there... thats why you hardly ever see them...i have never seen ANYONE cross this road. apart from the zebra crossing at the bottom. when i got done there was no 30mph sign,it appeared 2 weeks after my day in court.i was done on the "you have to assume its a 30 because there are street lights" and the 40mph is half way up hill. also you'd be lucky to do 5mph when schools right at top of hill are chucking out. having said all of that, i accept that i was speeding however much i dont like it,it wasn't a fair cop but you have to accept it as an occupational hazard of driving imho normally.

cooperman

4,428 posts

251 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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gone said:

cooperman said:
And some pople wonder why some banned drivers continue to drive!



There is no wonder why they still drive. The fun is in catching them and seeing the results


Sorry, I don't quite see why it's fun to catch someone who has been deprived of the right to drive on some spurious decision of some less-than-intelligent magistrate that a driver deserved it because he exceeded some arbitrary limit a few times, not necessarily dangerously, and the driver was so desparate to keep his home, job, career, marriage, maintain his kids, etc, etc, that he decided to take the risk, bad though his decision to do may be perceived as being.
If minor motoring offences result in out-of-proportion sentances compared with other crimes, then it's what society should not be surprised at.
I don't include the catching of those banned for taking and driving away, DD, etc, just Mr. High-mileage business driver who gets unlucky a few times over a 3-year period.
Show a little empathy, gone, even if, as we all appreciate, you have to do your job properly. I mean, you don't have to get fun out of catching someone like I describe, even though you do have to catch them.