Sick to my stomach

[Red Devil]

This story demonstrates why the UK does not deserve to be considered a first world country. Utterly shameful.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/202...
https://members.tortoisemedia.com/2020/07/06/the-r...

[Stay in Bed Instead]

What is your gripe exactly?

[mickyh7]

I didn't get one day off, neither did my colleagues on the Shop Floor.
I've been working 6 days, 10 to 12 hours a day.
Most Office staff have been off throughout.
I personally cant see them all having jobs soon.
We expect cutbacks up there soon!
Not one of us has caught this Virus, working near enough normally, other than the 2 metres.
So what is your problem?

[Alucidnation]

[anonymous-user]

Lots of people had to go to work and still do, myself included. Not quite sure what the point of this post is.....

[V8 Stang]

Urr don't see the issue, at no point in the lockdown were we told to stop going to work (unless on the banned list).

I didn't have a single day off as a coach-build electrician.

[Truffs]

Exactly, the point Red Devil was making.

Unless banned, still had to come into work and clean empty offices and that seems a rather pointless way to lose your life.

Hardly on the front line serving the public. I wonder if there is a cleaner who can return my licence from the DVLA?!

[Greendubber]

It's very sad that someone has died but ultimately a lot of people have been at work throughout.

[Bill]

Isn't the point that SSP is so st he couldn't afford not to. Although I thought they upped SSP so that people with covid symptoms wouldn't go to work?

Presumably the cleaning was outsourced.

[KAgantua]

Was he an economic migrant or here for some other reason? (E.g. here with family)

If the former, the pay and the SSP is more generous than foreign alternatives. So what are we griping about exactly?

Sounds like he didnt even die of Covid-19, perhaps underlying health condition?

Shame nonetheless but dont really understand the agenda being pushed by picking up the story

[mickyh7]

mickyh7 said:

I didn't get one day off, neither did my colleagues on the Shop Floor.
I've been working 6 days, 10 to 12 hours a day.
Most Office staff have been off throughout.
I personally cant see them all having jobs soon.
We expect cutbacks up there soon!
Not one of us has caught this Virus, working near enough normally, other than the 2 metres.
So what is your problem?

Edit.
For the record.
I'm a White Male.
Does that make a difference ?

[vaud]

Truffs said:

Exactly, the point Red Devil was making.

Unless banned, still had to come into work and clean empty offices and that seems a rather pointless way to lose your life.

Hardly on the front line serving the public. I wonder if there is a cleaner who can return my licence from the DVLA?!

The offices weren’t empty as the article notes. Fewer civil servants but not a closed office?

[Drumroll]

Two questions, why is this in SP&L?
Why does this incident mean the UK shouldn't be "considered a first world country"?

Edited by Drumroll on Tuesday 7th July 09:50

[mickyh7]

If people genuinely dont like this country there is a simple solution.
Stop bleating on about it.
Just fk off somewhere else and be happy there.
Me?
I love this country.
When I watch the World news, I feel blessed to be able to live here and pay my way.

[croyde]

I'm puzzled by these stories. They come up from time to time written in that Readers Digest way (I'm getting on) yet this illness tends to only kill the weak, old and infirm. Anyone else and it's a bad week at the most.

I too, worked all the way through but granted I didn't use public transport. Our lot either drove or were given cabs.

Impossible to socially distance at work, all crammed into small A/C rooms literally shoulder to shoulder.

No one, so far, has been sick.

If any conclusion is to be made from this article is that the poor guys caught it on crowded public transport not pushing a polishing machine through a deserted building and seeing no one else.

BTW I'm not knocking their job, I did the same myself 40 years ago when I first started working.

[NGee]

But did he die of covid -19? It appears from those articles that nobody actual knows this. Until this can be confirmed the whole thread is rather a pointless non event.
It is an unfortunate fact of life that people die of all kinds of illnesses. Mainly old people but sadly sometimes younger people too.

The only thing the story does emphasize is the poor rate of sick pay, which is considerably more than the self-employed and zero hours workers get!

[Pit Pony]

croyde said:

I'm puzzled by these stories.

this illness tends to only kill the weak, old and infirm.

Anyone else and it's a bad week at the most.

.

A bad week ? A fair proportion of them will have long term issues.

My wife has had post viral Chronic fatigue for 14 years (although probably had it for a year before that).
The only good thing about C-19 is the number of people who will have a severe version of "Yuppie Flu" or "Lazy Disease" (as the general public tend to think) forcing the health service and public in general to actually take this ignored problem seriously, at long last.

Its been eye opening. I had a heart attack exactly 2 weeks ago and the number of health professionals I've spoken to remotely in a week has been 5 times the support she's had in 14 years.

[Foliage]

croyde said:

I'm puzzled by these stories.

me too since he didnt die of covid, and his cause of death was high blood pressure likely brought on by not looking after himself properly.

I dont think anything else really has an relevance.

Also ive been working through out, ive been run off my feet since i design space and retail equipment..

[martinbiz]

Bill said:

Isn't the point that SSP is so st he couldn't afford not to. Although I thought they upped SSP so that people with covid symptoms wouldn't go to work?

Presumably the cleaning was outsourced.

The rate off SSP was not changed, what was changed for COVid related symtoms and/or self isolation was it starts from day one of a sick period instead of the normal day 4

[Bill]

martinbiz said:

The rate off SSP was not changed, what was changed for COVid related symtoms and/or self isolation was it starts from day one of a sick period instead of the normal day 4

Ok, thanks, I knew there was a change of some sort.