Grassing up a Covid **** taker.
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Just like the stasi in East Germany grassing on your neighbours. What’s next your children reporting on you?
Give it a bit about following the laws. Would you have reported your gay neighbours in the 1960s?
It was still legal to rape your wife in the 1980’s. are all laws to be followed? Report your neighbours for any other perceived breach of any other unjust laws?
Give it a bit about following the laws. Would you have reported your gay neighbours in the 1960s?
It was still legal to rape your wife in the 1980’s. are all laws to be followed? Report your neighbours for any other perceived breach of any other unjust laws?
Narcisus said:
mybrainhurts said:
Go ahead, if you believe this load of bks.
307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
Unless you have a close friend or relative that has died you ####307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
Narcisus said:
mybrainhurts said:
Go ahead, if you believe this load of bks.
307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
Unless you have a close friend or relative that has died you ####307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
We could save 27,820 deaths or serious injuries every year if we all drove at 5mph all the time but we don’t as it’s not reasonable.
Our response should be reasonable. Shutting down the economy every time a few people die is not reasonable.
Sorry but that is the truth.
mybrainhurts said:
Narcisus said:
mybrainhurts said:
Go ahead, if you believe this load of bks.
307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
Unless you have a close friend or relative that has died you ####307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
lrdisco said:
Narcisus said:
mybrainhurts said:
Go ahead, if you believe this load of bks.
307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
Unless you have a close friend or relative that has died you ####307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
We could save 27,820 deaths or serious injuries every year if we all drove at 5mph all the time but we don’t as it’s not reasonable.
Our response should be reasonable. Shutting down the economy every time a few people die is not reasonable.
Sorry but that is the truth.
P-Jay said:
mybrainhurts said:
Go ahead, if you believe this load of bks.
307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
Sorry, what's the timescale? "Up to 10 Sept" from when?307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
lrdisco said:
Just like the stasi in East Germany grassing on your neighbours. What’s next your children reporting on you?
Give it a bit about following the laws. Would you have reported your gay neighbours in the 1960s?
It was still legal to rape your wife in the 1980’s. are all laws to be followed? Report your neighbours for any other perceived breach of any other unjust laws?
YEAH! Roll it back to the 80's!!!!Give it a bit about following the laws. Would you have reported your gay neighbours in the 1960s?
It was still legal to rape your wife in the 1980’s. are all laws to be followed? Report your neighbours for any other perceived breach of any other unjust laws?
Oh, that's not what you meant.
mybrainhurts said:
P-Jay said:
mybrainhurts said:
Go ahead, if you believe this load of bks.
307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
Sorry, what's the timescale? "Up to 10 Sept" from when?307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
They can only handle so many - with the virus out of control, hospitals would be overwhelmed and you'd have people on the front cover of the mail whose parents have died because there was no room to treat them.
But I'm not an epidemiologist, so what do I know.
wiggy001 said:
Especially as the waiting times are now so long for treatment because of Covid...
Cancer referrals are way, way down this year. Over the next few years, logic dictates that we will see a sharp increase in deaths from cancers that could have been prevented if treated early enough. Cancer hasn't gone on holiday during Covid, people out there are still experiencing the symptoms that normally would see them enter the diagnosis and treatment process, but for a combination of reasons, they aren't coming forward and those that do are not being treated with the normal speed.It would not surprise me if every year for the next few years, more people die as a result of cancers through this breakdown in health care, than died of Covid in this first and likely worst year of Covid.
I'd expect the same downward trend of people coming forward for heart problems, diabetes etc too. You may have seen and heard, as I did, the doctors on TV and the radio, adverts on the internet asking people to please come to their GPs for any problems as usual, because they had seen such a decline in numbers of patients. Imagine someone experiencing a symptom of breast cancer or bowel cancer and deciding not to visit a doctor because they've been so crippled by fear of Covid-19. That is an appalling situation and terribly sad for any individuals involved.
Elective surgery for quality of life improvements has dropped through the floor too, you don't die if you don't get a hip replacement, but that doesn't mean there isn't a human cost involved for those suffering and unable to get relief from their conditions.
To spring into action as we did in March was the right thing to do, to put the NHS on full alert in readiness, because we just didn't know what was coming at us. Now, I think it's time to assess the situation and consider the actual risk of Covid. Not even considering the financial damage the lockdown and the mini-lockdowns have caused and will cause, we simply cannot go on living in fear.
By all means, use social distancing where possible, wear a mask, wash your hands and work from home where possible, take sensible precautions, but locking down entire counties because 26 people in 100,000 have tested positive (with a test that may well be detecting "dead" traces of previous infection) is utter lunacy, but that is Northumberland right now.
If someone was bragging about breaking quarantine I'm not sure what I'd do. People won't tackle their neighbours head on because few people want to get into bad blood with the people they live next to. Reporting it to the police will achieve little, as the police are stretched to deal with their workload as it is, before curtain-twitchers start living out their "Cold war-era Berlin" fantasies and reporting their neighbours for saying something controversial.
Narcisus said:
mybrainhurts said:
Go ahead, if you believe this load of bks.
307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
Unless you have a close friend or relative that has died you ####307 people under 60 have died up to 10 September in England, with around 1000 over 60. More people die from 'flu, this is a non event.
Source...NHS website.
StevenB said:
As per this mornings briefing, it's not just you taking a chance, you are taking the risk for everyone you come into contact with parents, grandparents friends relations etc, down the line your actions will lead to people dying.
UK public are likely among the most thick and selfish in Europe. Hard to reason with that combo.okgo said:
StevenB said:
As per this mornings briefing, it's not just you taking a chance, you are taking the risk for everyone you come into contact with parents, grandparents friends relations etc, down the line your actions will lead to people dying.
UK public are likely among the most thick and I refer you to my earlier post, detailing the insignificant number of deaths to date.
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