Grassing up a Covid **** taker.
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wormus said:
Jasandjules said:
Is that like Boris, Cummings, Whitty etc?
No it’s for people committing fraud. Do try to keep up. You’re welcome.Wikipedia said:
fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right
Not as far off the mark as you suggest. If you’re unsure of what the deception or the legal rights are in this context, have a watch of Lord Sumption’s recent speech to (iirc) the Cambridge Law Society.
Phil. said:
The only reason that we need to prioritise cancer over COVID (for example) is because we don't have sufficient NHS capacity. I think Germany has 10X the number hospital beds (or it could be ICU resources) compared to the UK by per head of population. Now we have Brexit and all the nurses/doctors from overseas will be returning or not joining us now in the numbers we need as we are an ageing population. Talk about cockups! And that's before we get on to the governments lies and massive financial corruption hidden by COVID that is currently in the courts.
People get what they vote for.Anyways, as no-one bothered to answer whether the PCR test, which is of course not terribly important in the current situation and is in no way being relied upon, can determine whether CV19 is present.
The answer is found at page 6 here
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...Ctin_SARS-CoV-2_RT-PCR_.pdf
The answer is found at page 6 here
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...Ctin_SARS-CoV-2_RT-PCR_.pdf
Jasandjules said:
Anyways, as no-one bothered to answer whether the PCR test, which is of course not terribly important in the current situation and is in no way being relied upon, can determine whether CV19 is present.
The answer is found at page 6 here
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...Ctin_SARS-CoV-2_RT-PCR_.pdf
For the simple of understanding and the lazy, here is the point J&J is referring to from P6 of this Public Health England paper:The answer is found at page 6 here
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...Ctin_SARS-CoV-2_RT-PCR_.pdf
‘’PCR detects presence of viral genetic material in a sample but is not able to distinguish whether infectious virus is present.’’
Phil. said:
Fill your boots and remember that all deaths WITH COVID are being counted as deaths BY COVID whatever the cause.
Why are they doing this?
The biggest issue with the last graph, is that the Covid Patients have tended to need shipping into ICU. There aren’t that many ventilated beds available ( unless they utilise all the ‘Nightingale’ hospitals).Why are they doing this?
BrundanBianchi said:
The biggest issue with the last graph, is that the Covid Patients have tended to need shipping into ICU. There aren’t that many ventilated beds available ( unless they utilise all the ‘Nightingale’ hospitals).
The government has half a billion pounds of unused ventilators that they didn’t use even at the peak of the pandemic sitting somewhere which they can deploy if required. Neither were the Nightingale hospitals used at the peak and we are nowhere near the peak presently. grudas said:
it's weird that we need extra ventilators and doctors/nurses to operate them when it's just a normal flu season 
also where can you buy extra doctors and nurses?
I stated that we didn’t need extra ventilators even at the peak never mind now! Ventilators have also been shown to be the wrong action to take for the vast majority of COVID patients. also where can you buy extra doctors and nurses? Phil. said:
I stated that we didn’t need extra ventilators even at the peak never mind now! Ventilators have also been shown to be the wrong action to take for the vast majority of COVID patients.
it's over-reaction by the government.. or another chance to line the pockets of their mates. While making sure kids can't have a meal during holidays! I don't care who gets voted in next time but please get rid of these muppets and lets see what others can do. If there's anything left worth saving.‘’Weekly death rate England. It’s entirely NORMAL. There aren’t more deaths than usual. There aren’t more respiratory deaths than normal. Govt claims there is a lethal respiratory virus at large, killing 100s per day. It is misdiagnosis.’’ Dr Michael Yeadon
Dr Yeadon has a degree in biochemistry and toxicology, a research-based PhD in respiratory pharmacology, has spent over 30 years leading new medicines research in the pharmaceuticals industry, and founded his own biotech company which he sold to the world’s biggest drug company Novartis in 2017.
‘’Misdiagnosis’’ is this context is due to the highly inaccurate and over used PCR testing, and by adding COVID (measured by PCR testing) as the main cause of death when this is not the case. The multiplier is massive both in terms of mis-reporting of both deaths and cases. The COVID pandemic is over. We are being lied to and made fearful every day by all their controlling propaganda!
https://twitter.com/michaelyeadon3/status/13220688...
Dr Yeadon has a degree in biochemistry and toxicology, a research-based PhD in respiratory pharmacology, has spent over 30 years leading new medicines research in the pharmaceuticals industry, and founded his own biotech company which he sold to the world’s biggest drug company Novartis in 2017.
‘’Misdiagnosis’’ is this context is due to the highly inaccurate and over used PCR testing, and by adding COVID (measured by PCR testing) as the main cause of death when this is not the case. The multiplier is massive both in terms of mis-reporting of both deaths and cases. The COVID pandemic is over. We are being lied to and made fearful every day by all their controlling propaganda!
https://twitter.com/michaelyeadon3/status/13220688...
Phil. said:
The government has half a billion pounds of unused ventilators that they didn’t use even at the peak of the pandemic sitting somewhere which they can deploy if required. Neither were the Nightingale hospitals used at the peak and we are nowhere near the peak presently.
Give it 2 weeks.Phil. said:
‘’Weekly death rate England. It’s entirely NORMAL. There aren’t more deaths than usual. There aren’t more respiratory deaths than normal. Govt claims there is a lethal respiratory virus at large, killing 100s per day. It is misdiagnosis.’’ Dr Michael Yeadon
Dr Yeadon has a degree in biochemistry and toxicology, a research-based PhD in respiratory pharmacology, has spent over 30 years leading new medicines research in the pharmaceuticals industry, and founded his own biotech company which he sold to the world’s biggest drug company Novartis in 2017.
‘’Misdiagnosis’’ is this context is due to the highly inaccurate and over used PCR testing, and by adding COVID (measured by PCR testing) as the main cause of death when this is not the case. The multiplier is massive both in terms of mis-reporting of both deaths and cases. The COVID pandemic is over. We are being lied to and made fearful every day by all their controlling propaganda!
https://twitter.com/michaelyeadon3/status/13220688...
He needs to tell that to the people laid up in ICUs on ventilators because of the ‘non pandemic’. I’m sure they’ll be grateful that there isn’t a lethal respiratory virus about.Dr Yeadon has a degree in biochemistry and toxicology, a research-based PhD in respiratory pharmacology, has spent over 30 years leading new medicines research in the pharmaceuticals industry, and founded his own biotech company which he sold to the world’s biggest drug company Novartis in 2017.
‘’Misdiagnosis’’ is this context is due to the highly inaccurate and over used PCR testing, and by adding COVID (measured by PCR testing) as the main cause of death when this is not the case. The multiplier is massive both in terms of mis-reporting of both deaths and cases. The COVID pandemic is over. We are being lied to and made fearful every day by all their controlling propaganda!
https://twitter.com/michaelyeadon3/status/13220688...
BrundanBianchi said:
He needs to tell that to the people laid up in ICUs on ventilators because of the ‘non pandemic’. I’m sure they’ll be grateful that there isn’t a lethal respiratory virus about.
Please share the ICU figures that you are basing your argument on. And explain how the PCR testing is not inaccurate even for those in ICU. Some of those in ICU at the moment might be ‘with’ COVID but are mostly dying from other diseases and not even respiratory diseases! BrundanBianchi said:
He needs to tell that to the people laid up in ICUs on ventilators because of the ‘non pandemic’. I’m sure they’ll be grateful that there isn’t a lethal respiratory virus about.
I realize that this will come as a shock to you but most people 'laid up in ICUs on ventilators' aren't there due to covid.Phil. said:
Please share the ICU figures that you are basing your argument on. And explain how the PCR testing is not inaccurate even for those in ICU. Some of those in ICU at the moment might be ‘with’ COVID but are mostly dying from other diseases and not even respiratory diseases!
Like?NGee said:
I realize that this will come as a shock to you but most people 'laid up in ICUs on ventilators' aren't there due to covid.
https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/details/healthcareis what you'd want to keep an eye on then as the number is literally for covid confirmed.
Confirmed COVID-19 patients in mechanical ventilation beds. Data from the four nations may not be directly comparable as data about COVID-19 patients in hospitals are collected differently. Data are not reported by each nation every day and England data are not available before 2 April. The UK figure is the sum of the four nations' figures and can only be calculated when all nations' data are available.
Killboy said:
NGee said:
I realize that this will come as a shock to you but most people 'laid up in ICUs on ventilators' aren't there due to covid.
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