I want his badge....

[PorkInsider]

Now that this thread's run for a few more days, and you've made more contributions to it,I'll come back to this again:

Mojooo said:

I'm not necessarily supporting them. But I just find the demonstrations of Police abusing their power interesting. the OP certainly demonstrates very questionable behaviour and a piss poor response from the Police HQ.

I can post multiple example of the Police being fine but I haven't because people are being so butthurt.

It was bullst when you posted it and it's still bullst now.

I expect the thread didn't go quite as you'd hoped.

[Tommo87]

Paul Dishman said:

We live in what is generally a free society, where any activity that isn't against the law is permitted. You might not want to do what Mr Audit does, I certainly don't, but as it's not illegal he is perfectly entitled to carry out his "childish hobby".

There isn't a law against being a berk

As you are happy to divert taxpayers money from truly needy recipients to babysit his pointless activities why he practices his chosen hobby, you can pay my share as well.

[Mojooo]

PorkInsider said:

Now that this thread's run for a few more days, and you've made more contributions to it,I'll come back to this again:

Mojooo said:

I'm not necessarily supporting them. But I just find the demonstrations of Police abusing their power interesting. the OP certainly demonstrates very questionable behaviour and a piss poor response from the Police HQ.

I can post multiple example of the Police being fine but I haven't because people are being so butthurt.

It was bullst when you posted it and it's still bullst now.

I expect the thread didn't go quite as you'd hoped.

Can I have your collar number?

[Fatball]

Mojooo said:

PorkInsider said:

Now that this thread's run for a few more days, and you've made more contributions to it,I'll come back to this again:

Mojooo said:

I'm not necessarily supporting them. But I just find the demonstrations of Police abusing their power interesting. the OP certainly demonstrates very questionable behaviour and a piss poor response from the Police HQ.

I can post multiple example of the Police being fine but I haven't because people are being so butthurt.

It was bullst when you posted it and it's still bullst now.

I expect the thread didn't go quite as you'd hoped.

Can I have your collar number?

3825 968

[Pickled Piper]

Surely the Auditing Britain videos make great training videos for the Bib. There is a general trend. A single officer saunters over with non- aggressive body language, engages with the cameraman and in a matter of minutes ascertains there is no threat. Quite often there is a friendly explanation about officers safety etc. Alternatively, BiB turn up mob handed (five to six officers) act agressively and threateningly, make a poor job of engaging with the cameraman, attempt to bully him, misuse prevention of terrorism legislation and waste their own time.

[Bigends]

Pickled Piper said:

Surely the Auditing Britain videos make great training videos for the Bib. There is a general trend. A single officer saunters over with non- aggressive body language, engages with the cameraman and in a matter of minutes ascertains there is no threat. Quite often there is a friendly explanation about officers safety etc. Alternatively, BiB turn up mob handed (five to six officers) act agressively and threateningly, make a poor job of engaging with the cameraman, attempt to bully him, misuse prevention of terrorism legislation and waste their own time.

Spot on

[Greendubber]

Mojooo said:

PorkInsider said:

Now that this thread's run for a few more days, and you've made more contributions to it,I'll come back to this again:

Mojooo said:

I'm not necessarily supporting them. But I just find the demonstrations of Police abusing their power interesting. the OP certainly demonstrates very questionable behaviour and a piss poor response from the Police HQ.

I can post multiple example of the Police being fine but I haven't because people are being so butthurt.

It was bullst when you posted it and it's still bullst now.

I expect the thread didn't go quite as you'd hoped.

Can I have your collar number?

Im sure its SO 595.

[Ayahuasca]

The filmer is a tt.

[Red 4]

Greendubber said:

Im sure its SO 595.

452.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jc3lyGuT4o

[MSR12c]

Paul Dishman said:

We live in what is generally a free society, where any activity that isn't against the law is permitted. You might not want to do what Mr Audit does, I certainly don't, but as it's not illegal he is perfectly entitled to carry out his "childish hobby".

There isn't a law against being a berk

He is entitled to be a berk, as am I should I chose to (say) wander around a supermarket in a non threatening way with a sledgehammer over my shoulder. That would quite legal. Thing is, when people behave like that, just maybe the next guy filming the police station will be doing so to establish when officers come and go. Perhaps he might be planning some fun little rouse, a beheading, stabbing, ploughing his Dacia into a few police? Sadly, nowadays these things happen. The constabulary really do not need cretins like this wasting their time and wasting taxpayers’ already strained resources.

[Red 4]

MSR12c said:

He is entitled to be a berk, as am I should I chose to (say) wander around a supermarket in a non threatening way with a sledgehammer over my shoulder. That would quite legal. Thing is, when people behave like that, just maybe the next guy filming the police station will be doing so to establish when officers come and go. Perhaps he might be planning some fun little rouse, a beheading, stabbing, ploughing his Dacia into a few police? Sadly, nowadays these things happen. The constabulary really do not need cretins like this wasting their time and wasting taxpayers’ already strained resources.

You're right. Cops can be targeted and they are. Anyone sniffing around police stations needs to be challenged.

I worked with a guy who was the victim of said targeting because he pissed off the wrong (or right if you want to look at it that way) people.
He was followed home and both he and his family were threatened.

The job moved him and his family for their own safety.
Pricks like the guy in the video need to have a word with themselves.

[Greendubber]

Red 4 said:

MSR12c said:

He is entitled to be a berk, as am I should I chose to (say) wander around a supermarket in a non threatening way with a sledgehammer over my shoulder. That would quite legal. Thing is, when people behave like that, just maybe the next guy filming the police station will be doing so to establish when officers come and go. Perhaps he might be planning some fun little rouse, a beheading, stabbing, ploughing his Dacia into a few police? Sadly, nowadays these things happen. The constabulary really do not need cretins like this wasting their time and wasting taxpayers’ already strained resources.

You're right. Cops can be targeted and they are. Anyone sniffing around police stations needs to be challenged.

I worked with a guy who was the victim of said targeting because he pissed off the wrong (or right if you want to look at it that way) people.
He was followed home and both he and his family were threatened.

The job moved him and his family for their own safety.
Pricks like the guy in the video need to have a word with themselves.

I know a number of people who have been followed home, had cars torched, houses damaged and broken into. We've also had people jump the barrier at work armed with knives in the yard etc.

[Red 4]

Greendubber said:

I know a number of people who have been followed home, had cars torched, houses damaged and broken into. We've also had people jump the barrier at work armed with knives in the yard etc.

Yeah, as you say it's not unusual.

My mate was recognised when he was off-duty and walking his dog.
He was threatened and then 2 scrotes attacked him.
Unfortunately for them he's an ex-Army boxing champion. I'm saying no more.

[Paul Dishman]

Greendubber said:

I know a number of people who have been followed home, had cars torched, houses damaged and broken into. We've also had people jump the barrier at work armed with knives in the yard etc.

It's a difficult balance to achieve, we all want to live in a free society but its obviously not acceptable for people and their families to be threatened. There has to be a balance somewhere this side of the US route of a gung-ho gun culture where Mr Audit would get himself shot for taking photos

[Derek Smith]

MSR12c said:

He is entitled to be a berk, as am I should I chose to (say) wander around a supermarket in a non threatening way with a sledgehammer over my shoulder. That would quite legal. Thing is, when people behave like that, just maybe the next guy filming the police station will be doing so to establish when officers come and go. Perhaps he might be planning some fun little rouse, a beheading, stabbing, ploughing his Dacia into a few police? Sadly, nowadays these things happen. The constabulary really do not need cretins like this wasting their time and wasting taxpayers’ already strained resources.

You suggest you can walk around a superarket with a sledgehammer. A police officer might approach to discover what your intentions are. After all, there is a possibility you might be committing an offence.

[Frank7]

Derek Smith said:

MSR12c said:

He is entitled to be a berk, as am I should I chose to (say) wander around a supermarket in a non threatening way with a sledgehammer over my shoulder. That would quite legal. Thing is, when people behave like that, just maybe the next guy filming the police station will be doing so to establish when officers come and go. Perhaps he might be planning some fun little rouse, a beheading, stabbing, ploughing his Dacia into a few police? Sadly, nowadays these things happen. The constabulary really do not need cretins like this wasting their time and wasting taxpayers’ already strained resources.

You suggest you can walk around a superarket with a sledgehammer. A police officer might approach to discover what your intentions are. After all, there is a possibility you might be committing an offence.

I believe that he was giving an illustration that anyone could be a berk, e.g., you could walk around a supermarket with a sledgehammer, that would label anyone as a berk.

[MSR12c]

Derek Smith said:

You suggest you can walk around a superarket with a sledgehammer. A police officer might approach to discover what your intentions are. After all, there is a possibility you might be committing an offence.

Just for clarity, truly I have no intention of wandering around Tesco with a sledgehammer. However, if I chose to do so, it wouldn’t be illegal, just stupid and inconsiderate as it would most likely concern people. I would hope that anyone doing that would be apprehended by the police. Similarly, unnecessarily filming a police station, army barracks or other such place should also give reasonable rise to question from the authorities. Surely, this shouldn’t be surprising. If the respective copper or other authorities sometimes come across as heavy handed in those circumstances, maybe it’s because they have personally faced violence in similar situations. Perhaps the policeman had scrapped someone off the road that morning, told a parent his/her child had been killed. Who knows? They have a horrible job and don’t need snowflake trouble makers trying to score pathetic points to support their meaningless rights to film a public building.

I really can see no argument to support the behavior of the guy making the film.

[Mojooo]

The (theoretical) reason is to demonstrate that Police (AND other people like security guards) do not understand photography laws. I think that point has been well made. There are plenty of videos of people taking photos in the town centres and other non sensitive locations and being told they cannot do it.

As another person said above, with so many of these people doing it you would hope someone high up in the Police might arrange for some training to avoid these situations.

I think the point is that if the point is made by photographing sensitive sites and forcing education then it helps with photography everywhere

I accept a lot of them are doing it for other reasons (i.e. don't like authority / like winding people up / for the views)

[jakesmith]

MSR12c said:

Just for clarity, truly I have no intention of wandering around Tesco with a sledgehammer. However, if I chose to do so, it wouldn’t be illegal, just stupid and inconsiderate

WRONG

If there were any plod or even a QC on here they can tell you you'd be looking@ quite a rap sheet

- Offensive weapon
- Going equipped
- Section 5 Public Order (causing alarm and distress)
- Breach of Piece
- Affray
- Causing a hullabaloo
- Reckless Endangerment (misdemeanor)

You'd be looking at some time in the big house IMO

[Red 4]

No jakesmith, you're wrong.

Breach of the piece (amongst others) is a cracker though.