woman in labour - husband scammed
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ficticious newspaper article said:
Saviour charged with speeding offence
There was outrage today when it was revealed that John Smith, the hero who saved 32 children from a blazing warehouse fire in North Wales, is to be charged with a speeding offence.
Mr Smith was driving his car to the aid of the 32 children, who most certainly would have died, and was caught speeding at 24mph in a 20mph zone.
The policeman who caught Mr Smith speeding said "its a fair cop, and I need 5 points to reach my target to get my Christmas bonus this year."
Mr Smith was quoted as saying "They can shove their fine up their hoary arses."
BliarOut said:
He should opt for court. I believe one of the tests the CPS use is "is it in the public's interest to persue the case"
The response given is a standard scammers response, not from a human being. Thewould never persue this and in every example I've heard of would usually provide an escort.
They really are getting out of controlStill, any adverse publicity for the scammers is good publicity.
The
would probably provide an escort to the hospital.
Heartily concur with the view that his vehicle was being used as an Ambulance.
So as already suggested he should refuse the conditional offer and go to court.
On the day of the hearing perhaps a PH meet could be organised, oh somewhere in the vicinity.
Cue enter stage left one defendant found "not guilty" to sounds of cheering and waved placards suitably endorsed. Good item for the 6 o'clock news methinks.
So as already suggested he should refuse the conditional offer and go to court.
On the day of the hearing perhaps a PH meet could be organised, oh somewhere in the vicinity.
Cue enter stage left one defendant found "not guilty" to sounds of cheering and waved placards suitably endorsed. Good item for the 6 o'clock news methinks.
Dwight VanDriver said:
Compassion and common sense seems to be disappearing in society.
DVD
I think, sadly, you're absolutely right. If there's a letter of the law to be observed to its last jot and tittle, it'll bloody well be observed. Sod why the law's there. Sod the circumstances.
Perhaps most dangerous, I think this is very, very bad indeed for justice and people's perception of it.
princeperch said:
its illegal for an untrained person to deliver a baby?! What on earth would they be charged with?!
It is an offence for a mid-wife not to be present at a birth. The mother-to-be has to make efforts to ensure a midwife is present, whether by calling the midwife or for an ambulance. If they don't get there in time then action is unlikely to be taken.
However if you don;t call in the first place thencan be charged after the event. Presumably more likely if you have a second in similar circumstances!
My wife had a case where they didn't want the midwife present, and called late delibrately. However she got there in time!
I followed the ambulance at about 95 after my father collapsed at home. We weren't allowed in the ambulance so we had to follow, speeds were upto around 95mph on some stretches. My mother was really distraught and I was understandably upset.
Sadly, my father died on the way to the hospital.
I wasn't scammera'd but could have been I guess, question is would I have been able to object?
Probably not.
Incidentally, the general public were so kind and must have realised we were with the ambulance (had headlights on main beam & hazards on all the way), without exception everyone pulled over to let us pass.
Sadly, my father died on the way to the hospital.
I wasn't scammera'd but could have been I guess, question is would I have been able to object?
Probably not.
Incidentally, the general public were so kind and must have realised we were with the ambulance (had headlights on main beam & hazards on all the way), without exception everyone pulled over to let us pass.
superflid said:
Just caught it on Central news, case has been dropped.
The only sensible option. The already battered and bruised public image of speed enforcement is on the ropes, and a case like this would have been another body blow.
If this guy had been convicted then I think you would have seen real public backlash.
mrs puggit said:
Not wanting to get flamed, (I agree this is harsh etc) but do you really think he was driving carefully?
I ask you if you were with your significant other, screaming in pain, with the prospect of having to delivery a baby (sqeemish men can leave the room):
Can you honestly say you would be driving safely with due care & attention? Better still extra attention as you are aware you are driving faster than you should?
:runsandhides:
I can honestly say I would be driving with the utmost care if the lives of my wife and soon to be born baby were at stake. Men don't generaly fall apart in the same way that many women tend to under stressfull situtaions (yes a stereotype/generalisation, but a true one).
MR2Mike said:
Not wanting to get flamed, (I agree this is harsh etc) but do you really think he was driving carefully?
I ask you if you were with your significant other, screaming in pain, with the prospect of having to delivery a baby (sqeemish men can leave the room):
Can you honestly say you would be driving safely with due care & attention? Better still extra attention as you are aware you are driving faster than you should?
:runsandhides:
I can honestly say I would be driving with the utmost care if the lives of my wife and soon to be born baby were at stake. Men don't generaly fall apart in the same way that many women tend to under stressfull situtaions (yes a stereotype/generalisation, but a true one).
I think he was driving carefully. People drive all the time under some form of stress e.g. police ambulance and fire brigade drivers, peoplee going to funerals, late for appointments the list is endless. This doesn't make them bad drivers.
He was only doing 61MPH on a dual carriageway, there are loads of DC's in Dorset with 40 or 50mph limits where 70 would not be unsafe.
MR2Mike said:
Not wanting to get flamed, (I agree this is harsh etc) but do you really think he was driving carefully?
I ask you if you were with your significant other, screaming in pain, with the prospect of having to delivery a baby (sqeemish men can leave the room):
Can you honestly say you would be driving safely with due care & attention? Better still extra attention as you are aware you are driving faster than you should?
:runsandhides:
I can honestly say I would be driving with the utmost care if the lives of my wife and soon to be born baby were at stake. Men don't generaly fall apart in the same way that many women tend to under stressfull situtaions (yes a stereotype/generalisation, but a true one).
Having had to transport my wife and unborn baby from Crowborough Maternity unit to Eastbourne DGH as going my car would be quicker than waiting for the ambulance, I can say for a certainity that you don't hang about! Equally you concentrate on the driving due to the importance of getting the precious cargo there in one piece.
Admitedly you carry out maneouvres you wouldn't normally do, like in my case overtaking someone who was already overtaking (I hasten to add the road was easily wide enough) and you pay scant regard to speed limits.
Your over riding aim is to get your wife and unborn child to hospital safely and quickly. Although the staff at Crowborough and Eastbourne were suprised by quite how quickly we got from one to another! As my wife works for them they were discussing her possibly more than they would most patients!
I was in a garage in Hatfield on the old A1 a few years ago and a guy was on the forecourt with a very hot car. Without thinking he took off the rad cap and very badly scalded both arns with rusty coloured dirty water. He screamed, as you might imagine, and some idiot came out of the owrkshop and put Swarfega on both his arms. He was in such a state he didn't try to stop the idiot from doing this. Fearing blood poisoning, or worse, I put the injured guy in the back of my car and took him, as fast as was possible, to the nearest hospital, Welwyn Garden City. I guess we hit 80+ in the 30 & 40 limits, but when I got him there he was unconcious. I had to tell the Doc in charge of A & E what the problem was and what solvent had been applied, so that he could call the makers of Swarfega. He thanked me and told me that the guy could have been in serious trouble without such prompt action. Later the injured guy wrote to me to thank me.
I suppose I would have been banned if they had used cameras in those days! What the hell, you don't think of the consequences of speeding when faced with a 'real-life' problem & I'd do the same again if I had to.
I suppose I would have been banned if they had used cameras in those days! What the hell, you don't think of the consequences of speeding when faced with a 'real-life' problem & I'd do the same again if I had to.
cooperman said:
I was in a garage in Hatfield on the old A1 a few years ago and a guy was on the forecourt with a very hot car. Without thinking he took off the rad cap and very badly scalded both arns with rusty coloured dirty water. He screamed, as you might imagine, and some idiot came out of the owrkshop and put Swarfega on both his arms. He was in such a state he didn't try to stop the idiot from doing this. Fearing blood poisoning, or worse, I put the injured guy in the back of my car and took him, as fast as was possible, to the nearest hospital, Welwyn Garden City. I guess we hit 80+ in the 30 & 40 limits, but when I got him there he was unconcious. I had to tell the Doc in charge of A & E what the problem was and what solvent had been applied, so that he could call the makers of Swarfega. He thanked me and told me that the guy could have been in serious trouble without such prompt action. Later the injured guy wrote to me to thank me.
I suppose I would have been banned if they had used cameras in those days! What the hell, you don't think of the consequences of speeding when faced with a 'real-life' problem & I'd do the same again if I had to.
if you did do that today you would indeed get nicked - outside the QE2 is one of the scameras favourite spots in WGC!
sorry, thought it was some sort of political thread. ......
superflid said:
Just caught it on Central news, case has been dropped.
Only because of the wide publicity. I expect there are cases of unintelligent "black and white thinking" occuring every day in ever-increasing numbers.
Discretion is the first casualty with a government intent of tapping into people's most primitive lack of compassion and appealing to them with easy to follow soundbites, laws, restrictions and attacks on "the other person".
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