Can I go for a recreational drive out?

[Alex_6n2]

I still don't see how someone can spread covid by going out for a drive, especially if you don't leave your car until you return.

[Dr Jekyll]

CanAm said:

Breadvan72 said:

"We don't make moral judgments. We just want the money."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0caV4Fxpbw

It's frightening that I remember that sketch in detail, despite only seeing it once. It must be about 50 years old.

I'd forgotten the old Citroen parked in the street.

[CanAm]

Alex_6n2 said:

I still don't see how someone can spread covid by going out for a drive, especially if you don't leave your car until you return.

Ah, but you'll crash, and take up valuable NHS and emergency services resources, you selfish, inconsiderate driver.

[Alex_6n2]

CanAm said:

Ah, but you'll crash, and take up valuable NHS and emergency services resources, you selfish, inconsiderate driver.

Of course, how stupid of me

I shall weld my front door shut just in case

[geeks]

Dr Jekyll said:

CanAm said:

Breadvan72 said:

"We don't make moral judgments. We just want the money."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0caV4Fxpbw

It's frightening that I remember that sketch in detail, despite only seeing it once. It must be about 50 years old.

I'd forgotten the old Citroen parked in the street.

That was new to me and made me giggle, they could easily update it for today and covid breaches

[48k]

geeks said:

Dr Jekyll said:

CanAm said:

Breadvan72 said:

"We don't make moral judgments. We just want the money."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0caV4Fxpbw

It's frightening that I remember that sketch in detail, despite only seeing it once. It must be about 50 years old.

I'd forgotten the old Citroen parked in the street.

That was new to me and made me giggle, they could easily update it for today and covid breaches

If only BV had have thought of that when he randomly posted the link for no reason whatsoever.

[survivalist]

dundarach said:

@merpoltraffic look like a bunch of idiots, whilst I have respect for the law, this kind of thing will only enrage the stupid and ultimately this affects us all.

This badger baiting of the gammon and unwashed should be stopped!

Indeed. It seems as if Merseyside and Derbyshire Police are having a competition to see who can be bigger dheads. Either that or to see who can get the most contested fines.

[Gman20]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55730...
9 met police officers fined for having breakfast.
I'm sure that looks great for them being able to say they're applying the rules to everyone and they will probably have their fines paid for them so they don't contest it.

But were they actually breaking the law? They were at work, the cafe should not have let them eat in, they should have known, but that doesn't mean they were breaking the law. I don't know if maybe a gathering restriction applies, but they were presumably still on duty so definitely allowed out to be working.

[Bigends]

Gman20 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55730...
9 met police officers fined for having breakfast.
I'm sure that looks great for them being able to say they're applying the rules to everyone and they will probably have their fines paid for them so they don't contest it.

But were they actually breaking the law? They were at work, the cafe should not have let them eat in, they should have known, but that doesn't mean they were breaking the law. I don't know if maybe a gathering restriction applies, but they were presumably still on duty so definitely allowed out to be working.

My old force HQ canteen is shut for sit downs - takeaway only

[roadsmash]

So why have they removed the “open air recreation” piece of legislation? What is it intended to prevent?

[havoc]

roadsmash said:

So why have they removed the “open air recreation” piece of legislation? What is it intended to prevent?

People actually looking after themselves?
People thinking they can get away with not following the 'guidance' that our benevolent government have graced us with?
People upsetting those delicate police officers by daring to suggest that they're not enforcing the law?

[CanAm]

roadsmash said:

So why have they removed the “open air recreation” piece of legislation? What is it intended to prevent?

Have I missed something here? What is the change?

[rainmakerraw]

Apologies for not being strictly in accord with the OP, but I couldn't think of a better place to put it. Following on from my recent postings about Merseyside Police's Twitter, they have now started stopping and checking the local buses and ejecting/fining people for 'non-essential travel'. Oy...

For those reluctant to follow the link, they accosted over 1,000 passengers and dealt with 10. So for all that effort, 1%. Amazing.

Edited by rainmakerraw on Sunday 24th January 18:47

[Lily the Pink]

rainmakerraw said:

Apologies for not being strictly in accord with the OP, but I couldn't think of a better place to put it. Following on from my recent postings about Merseyside Police's Twitter, they have now started stopping and checking the local buses and ejecting/fining people for 'non-essential travel'. Oy...

For those reluctant to follow the link, they accosted over 1,000 passengers and dealt with 10. So for all that effort, 1%. Amazing.

Edited by rainmakerraw on Sunday 24th January 18:47

The police and/or reporters (most likely the latter) seem to be a bit confused between "essential" and "reasonable".

[rainmakerraw]

Lily the Pink said:

The police and/or reporters (most likely the latter) seem to be a bit confused between "essential" and "reasonable".

No, it's the former... Scroll back through the thread. Merseyside Police are heavily policing 'essential travel only' with dogs, armed checkpoints and all the rest of the heavy handedness that goes with enforcing strict... um... guidelines.

[roadsmash]

CanAm said:

roadsmash said:

So why have they removed the “open air recreation” piece of legislation? What is it intended to prevent?

Have I missed something here? What is the change?

It was covered here:

Elysium said:

Speedgelb said:

Note there is no mention of "to visit a public outdoor place for the purposes of open air recreation". Also note the two lines at the bottom of the quote preceded by F6 - I believe (but cannot say for certain), that this is where open air recreation may have been mentioned.


SI 2020 1611, however still mentions this:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1611/part...

However, I don't know if this SI is "the law".

So far as I can tell, this is the consolidated Regulations

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1374/sche...

This is the amendment that omits the 'recreation' reasonable excuse:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2021/8/made

[CanAm]

roadsmash said:

It was covered here

[okenemem]

Oceanrower said:

Yes you can. Thread closed.

[JDiz]

rainmakerraw said:

No, it's the former... Scroll back through the thread. Merseyside Police are heavily policing 'essential travel only' with dogs, armed checkpoints and all the rest of the heavy handedness that goes with enforcing strict... um... guidelines.

I was also told they were stopping people at a local woods to enforce a 1 hour limit at the weekend, although that is hearsay, not as if merseyside police have form for making it up as they go along.

[rainmakerraw]

JDiz said:

I was also told they were stopping people at a local woods to enforce a 1 hour limit at the weekend, although that is hearsay, not as if merseyside police have form for making it up as they go along.

Nothing they did would shock me now, but that is particularly amusing/bad.