Can I go for a recreational drive out?
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Well, I certainly didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition (nobody expects...) but this was going to happen 😁
I went for a drive, didn’t go within 20 feet of another human being and sanitised the fuel pump I used. Forgot the pint of milk too. Lots of other people on the streets, out shopping. You wouldn’t think that there was a lockdown in progress in County Durham or North Yorkshire..
The roads in Teesdale are in fine fettle though. Happy New Year to you all.
I went for a drive, didn’t go within 20 feet of another human being and sanitised the fuel pump I used. Forgot the pint of milk too. Lots of other people on the streets, out shopping. You wouldn’t think that there was a lockdown in progress in County Durham or North Yorkshire..
The roads in Teesdale are in fine fettle though. Happy New Year to you all.
If I have to stay in, does that mean I cannot use my garden?!
Not sure how I can spread the virus in my own garden, but I will clearly now have to prevent my family accessing it.
Perhaps the Government should just come and nail everyone’s doors and windows shut?
Amazon should be shutdown, as should electricity and broadband as they are not really “essential”. We got by without them for a long time!
For those a bit slow this morning - sarcasm.
Not sure how I can spread the virus in my own garden, but I will clearly now have to prevent my family accessing it.
Perhaps the Government should just come and nail everyone’s doors and windows shut?
Amazon should be shutdown, as should electricity and broadband as they are not really “essential”. We got by without them for a long time!
For those a bit slow this morning - sarcasm.
Monsterlime said:
If I have to stay in, does that mean I cannot use my garden?!
Not sure how I can spread the virus in my own garden, but I will clearly now have to prevent my family accessing it.
Perhaps the Government should just come and nail everyone’s doors and windows shut?
Amazon should be shutdown, as should electricity and broadband as they are not really “essential”. We got by without them for a long time!
For those a bit slow this morning - sarcasm.
You jest, but back in April...Not sure how I can spread the virus in my own garden, but I will clearly now have to prevent my family accessing it.
Perhaps the Government should just come and nail everyone’s doors and windows shut?
Amazon should be shutdown, as should electricity and broadband as they are not really “essential”. We got by without them for a long time!
For those a bit slow this morning - sarcasm.
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brisel said:
Well, I certainly didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition (nobody expects...) but this was going to happen ??
I went for a drive, didn’t go within 20 feet of another human being and sanitised the fuel pump I used. Forgot the pint of milk too. Lots of other people on the streets, out shopping. You wouldn’t think that there was a lockdown in progress in County Durham or North Yorkshire..
The roads in Teesdale are in fine fettle though. Happy New Year to you all.
Seems to me that closing non-essential shops just means that people who see shopping as a hobby are doing it in the ‘essential’ shops that are still open. Stuff like garden centres, DIY shops etc. I went for a drive, didn’t go within 20 feet of another human being and sanitised the fuel pump I used. Forgot the pint of milk too. Lots of other people on the streets, out shopping. You wouldn’t think that there was a lockdown in progress in County Durham or North Yorkshire..
The roads in Teesdale are in fine fettle though. Happy New Year to you all.
survivalist said:
That is terrifying. Even more terrifying is that there are clearly some in this thread/country who support it.It's been said already over the course of the thread but drowned out slightly by bickering, so I'll have a go at summarising the situation, viz:
1. The OP lives in a tier 3 area,
2. The tier 3 legislation contains no restrictions on the reasons for which you can leave your home,
3. Thus the OP can legally go for a recreational drive,
4. Further NONE of the relevant legislation contains restrictions on crossing tier boundaries,
5. Thus the OP's recreational drive can legally take him into a tier 4 area.
AS AN ASIDE:
6. If the OP lived in a tier 4 area (which he doesn't), then the legislative provisions restricting the reasons for which he could leave his home would apply,
7. So ultimately whether he could go for a recreational drive would depend on whether that was a REASONABLE excuse for being outside his home,
8. It may be that going for a recreational drive counts as a 'recreational purpose' specifically allowed by the legislation,
9. But even if it doesn't, it could nevertheless still fall within the wider test of reasonableness.
I expect that for all the good this will do I may as well have shouted it into a bin, but at least I've had a go.
1. The OP lives in a tier 3 area,
2. The tier 3 legislation contains no restrictions on the reasons for which you can leave your home,
3. Thus the OP can legally go for a recreational drive,
4. Further NONE of the relevant legislation contains restrictions on crossing tier boundaries,
5. Thus the OP's recreational drive can legally take him into a tier 4 area.
AS AN ASIDE:
6. If the OP lived in a tier 4 area (which he doesn't), then the legislative provisions restricting the reasons for which he could leave his home would apply,
7. So ultimately whether he could go for a recreational drive would depend on whether that was a REASONABLE excuse for being outside his home,
8. It may be that going for a recreational drive counts as a 'recreational purpose' specifically allowed by the legislation,
9. But even if it doesn't, it could nevertheless still fall within the wider test of reasonableness.
I expect that for all the good this will do I may as well have shouted it into a bin, but at least I've had a go.
Monsterlime said:
If I have to stay in, does that mean I cannot use my garden?!
Not sure how I can spread the virus in my own garden, but I will clearly now have to prevent my family accessing it.
Perhaps the Government should just come and nail everyone’s doors and windows shut?
Amazon should be shutdown, as should electricity and broadband as they are not really “essential”. We got by without them for a long time!
For those a bit slow this morning - sarcasm.
Your garden is covered in the legislation. Reading it will help with your understanding.Not sure how I can spread the virus in my own garden, but I will clearly now have to prevent my family accessing it.
Perhaps the Government should just come and nail everyone’s doors and windows shut?
Amazon should be shutdown, as should electricity and broadband as they are not really “essential”. We got by without them for a long time!
For those a bit slow this morning - sarcasm.
Roger Irrelevant said:
It's been said already over the course of the thread but drowned out slightly by bickering, so I'll have a go at summarising the situation, viz:
1. The OP lives in a tier 3 area,
2. The tier 3 legislation contains no restrictions on the reasons for which you can leave your home,
3. Thus the OP can legally go for a recreational drive,
4. Further NONE of the relevant legislation contains restrictions on crossing tier boundaries,
5. Thus the OP's recreational drive can legally take him into a tier 4 area.
AS AN ASIDE:
6. If the OP lived in a tier 4 area (which he doesn't), then the legislative provisions restricting the reasons for which he could leave his home would apply,
7. So ultimately whether he could go for a recreational drive would depend on whether that was a REASONABLE excuse for being outside his home,
8. It may be that going for a recreational drive counts as a 'recreational purpose' specifically allowed by the legislation,
9. But even if it doesn't, it could nevertheless still fall within the wider test of reasonableness.
I expect that for all the good this will do I may as well have shouted it into a bin, but at least I've had a go.
Thanks for trying. You will of course be ignored.1. The OP lives in a tier 3 area,
2. The tier 3 legislation contains no restrictions on the reasons for which you can leave your home,
3. Thus the OP can legally go for a recreational drive,
4. Further NONE of the relevant legislation contains restrictions on crossing tier boundaries,
5. Thus the OP's recreational drive can legally take him into a tier 4 area.
AS AN ASIDE:
6. If the OP lived in a tier 4 area (which he doesn't), then the legislative provisions restricting the reasons for which he could leave his home would apply,
7. So ultimately whether he could go for a recreational drive would depend on whether that was a REASONABLE excuse for being outside his home,
8. It may be that going for a recreational drive counts as a 'recreational purpose' specifically allowed by the legislation,
9. But even if it doesn't, it could nevertheless still fall within the wider test of reasonableness.
I expect that for all the good this will do I may as well have shouted it into a bin, but at least I've had a go.
Breadvan72 said:
Thanks for trying. You will of course be ignored.
Quite.This question has come up time & again, seemingly every time there is yet another rule change..... Short of an actual lockdown, with actual legislation banning all travel, driving/riding a motorcycle for recreational purposes is OK.
If you're driving to your mates house for a cup of tea, that's another issue....
Biker 1 said:
Quite.
This question has come up time & again, seemingly every time there is yet another rule change..... Short of an actual lockdown, with actual legislation banning all travel, driving/riding a motorcycle for recreational purposes is OK.
If you're driving to your mates house for a cup of tea, that's another issue....
Prefer coffee myself...This question has come up time & again, seemingly every time there is yet another rule change..... Short of an actual lockdown, with actual legislation banning all travel, driving/riding a motorcycle for recreational purposes is OK.
If you're driving to your mates house for a cup of tea, that's another issue....
Biker 1 said:
Breadvan72 said:
Thanks for trying. You will of course be ignored.
Quite.This question has come up time & again, seemingly every time there is yet another rule change..... Short of an actual lockdown, with actual legislation banning all travel, driving/riding a motorcycle for recreational purposes is OK.
If you're driving to your mates house for a cup of tea, that's another issue....
Buster73 said:
Foss62 said:
The logic now that we seem to have faster spreading variants is that of containment. The longer the distance travelled, the higher the chance that something new will be introduced to an area. The News Reports about people driving from London to the Brecon Beacons show an extreme, but even your five miles does come with a greater risk of speeding up the spread than exercising two miles away. Think of the increased diversity of contacts (both first and second hand) if the entire country drove five miles from home in random directions and then walked two miles, as opposed to walking two miles from their front doors.
I live close by to the River Wear , during the first lockdown our regular 3 mile walk from home was absolutely mobbed and congested by local people who were desperate to get out for some “exercise “ and inevitably ended up standing talking blocking the narrow path.About five miles away we could park up and do a four mile walk and probably see no more than half a dozen folk out walking.
I’d prefer to walk from home but it doesn’t automatically become the best option.
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