princeperch's afternoon in the local mags court
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If I have a day off sometimes I poodle down the local mags court and sit at the back for a couple of cases and just observe what happens.
I did such a thing this afternoon, and it occurred to me when I was sitting quietly at the back
Why oh why oh why do people not dress even remotely smart to go to court, especially the defendants?
Most of the people there were dressed in tracksuits, wearing sunglasses, earings (the men), trainers ect.
Nearly all the defendants today tried to talk over the mags or the clerk, and were surley in the dock. I really dont understand it.
I wear a suit to just go and observe. Why do some people think lizzie duke gold chains and trakky bottoms are appropriate to wear in front of the beak?
I did such a thing this afternoon, and it occurred to me when I was sitting quietly at the back
Why oh why oh why do people not dress even remotely smart to go to court, especially the defendants?
Most of the people there were dressed in tracksuits, wearing sunglasses, earings (the men), trainers ect.
Nearly all the defendants today tried to talk over the mags or the clerk, and were surley in the dock. I really dont understand it.
I wear a suit to just go and observe. Why do some people think lizzie duke gold chains and trakky bottoms are appropriate to wear in front of the beak?
deltafox said:
princeperch said:
Why do some people think lizzie duke gold chains and trakky bottoms are appropriate to wear in front of the beak?
The answer is simple: That to them IS smart dress...
maybe so, but what are the odds of all these people being idiots with no common sense? Some of them were obviously really trying with a white ben sherman button down , school trousers, chains, and "loafers".
In front of any one who can take away your liberty/driving licence ect = a suit.
Why dont they see that?
>> Edited by princeperch on Tuesday 5th July 19:45
My Ma is a mag, and has to see exactly the sort of people you describe, she also does a lot of work in kids court as well..
To her, she can see that some people are trying to make an effort... like it's already been said, some people's "best" doesn't reach the standards that other people set as their lowest...
Obviously, there is no defense to people talking over the clerks etc, that's just downright rude... but not everyone can afford a suit, even if it is a cheap one!
slinky
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To her, she can see that some people are trying to make an effort... like it's already been said, some people's "best" doesn't reach the standards that other people set as their lowest...
Obviously, there is no defense to people talking over the clerks etc, that's just downright rude... but not everyone can afford a suit, even if it is a cheap one!
slinky
587racing.com
I've spent quite a lot of time in Mag's Courts and, in my experience the reason is that, for the people you describe, attending Court is just another day.
Frequently, they're on benefits, already paying off previous fines limited to a maximum of £5 per week. They know that whatever they're fined this time, it'll simply be added to their outstanding balance, yet their weekly payments will remain the same.
Unless there's a chance they'll actually be sent down, there's no incentive for them to make any effort whatsoever. Not that I'm cynical or anything...
Frequently, they're on benefits, already paying off previous fines limited to a maximum of £5 per week. They know that whatever they're fined this time, it'll simply be added to their outstanding balance, yet their weekly payments will remain the same.
Unless there's a chance they'll actually be sent down, there's no incentive for them to make any effort whatsoever. Not that I'm cynical or anything...
princeperch said:You mean David Beckham was in court? I thought he was in Singapore! - Streaky
If I have a day off sometimes I poodle down the local mags court and sit at the back for a couple of cases and just observe what happens.
I did such a thing this afternoon, and it occurred to me when I was sitting quietly at the back
Why oh why oh why do people not dress even remotely smart to go to court, especially the defendants?
Most of the people there were dressed in tracksuits, wearing sunglasses, earings (the men), trainers ect.
ledfoot said:
You would probably get a tougher sentence/fine if you turn up in a suit.
I agree with that.
If you can afford a suit, then you can afford to pay a big fine.
Turn up in old jeans and a ripped t-shirt, and claim poverty.
Dead right !
Like my conviction for not signing a speeding NIP (Section 172 offence).
I went smartly dressed with a file full of notes/case law, etc and was hit with 3 points, £750 fine and £275 costs.
The Court waiting room was full of so-called 'Chavs', wearing tracksuits, gold chains, baseball caps. FFS, one person was even wearing shorts and a football shirt !
Surely it shouldn't matter what you wear when at court?
"Mr X killed 14 people, but looks smart so we'll knock 1 year off his dues"
If someone looks smart = has money = can give more to the court
Also ... I wear a suit to look smart / nice for customers / girl friend / boss / people who I respect.
Funny ... the courts don't come into the above.
"Mr X killed 14 people, but looks smart so we'll knock 1 year off his dues"
If someone looks smart = has money = can give more to the court
Also ... I wear a suit to look smart / nice for customers / girl friend / boss / people who I respect.
Funny ... the courts don't come into the above.
lunarscope said:
Dead right !
Like my conviction for not signing a speeding NIP (Section 172 offence).
I went smartly dressed with a file full of notes/case law, etc and was hit with 3 points, £750 fine and £275 costs.
The Court waiting room was full of so-called 'Chavs', wearing tracksuits, gold chains, baseball caps. FFS, one person was even wearing shorts and a football shirt !
Were you means teasted for them to allocate the fine?
Plotloss said:
I have the final chapter in the mad landlady fiasco in court tommorow. So it should be interesting to see the quality of clientele whilst waiting for the case to be called.
Matt - that's spooky - only yesterday I was thinking about your situation and what had happened in the end!
K
superlightr said:
Dead right !
Like my conviction for not signing a speeding NIP (Section 172 offence).
I went smartly dressed with a file full of notes/case law, etc and was hit with 3 points, £750 fine and £275 costs.
The Court waiting room was full of so-called 'Chavs', wearing tracksuits, gold chains, baseball caps. FFS, one person was even wearing shorts and a football shirt !
Were you means teasted for them to allocate the fine?
No, they simply asked me how much spare cash I had each week and then multiplied by the number they first thought of.
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