Incorrect number plate spacing?

[av185]

Quite.

And anybody arguing otherwise thus supporting illegal activity essentially clearly revealing their own insecurities and vanity by placing these above the law in an obvious desperate need to attempt to impress others (but failing miserably as most normal folk think anyone illegally mispacing/butchering their plate is an absolute tit) needs to give their vacuous head a serious wobble.

Edited by av185 on Thursday 4th March 12:27

[underwhelmist]

Wow, we've got the old band back together

[321boost]

Hol said:

DAVE might be all the your supposed witness remembers, but the plate could be any combination of AA120 AVE, A120 AVE, or DAV 321A formats,in reality

Most of those plates dont exist and sounds like a problem with the witness's memory. It seems easy enough to remember those.

[geordiepingu]

Have you not just thought about buying a plate that you don't have to space illegally for people to recognise or laugh at? I bought WTF for my TVR quite easily. Dad got OMG for his car quite easily.

[Hol]

321boost said:

Hol said:

DAVE might be all the your supposed witness remembers, but the plate could be any combination of AA120 AVE, A120 AVE, or DAV 321A formats,in reality

Most of those plates dont exist and sounds like a problem with the witness's memory. It seems easy enough to remember those.

Actually, all, those registration plate formats exist. Plus some others prior to the 60’s.

DAVE was just an example of how a four letter memorable word that you believed was easy to remember, could have actually related to hundreds if not thousands of Potential registrations that have been amended by the owner.

I didn’t choose that name as it was the best example for my point, I choose it as it had already been discussed earlier in the thread and hence not random.

NGee said:

Yep, been there done that, got the t-shirt, (well the fine anyway!)

The correct plate was M30 AVE
I had it displayed as M3 0AVE. Because the car was an M3 and my name was Dave!
The 0 had not been turned into a D in any way shape or form, merely just moved along a bit

OK so that wasn't the plate I had but the principal is exactly the same, I had an '0' I just moved 1 space to the right to imply a four letter name beginning with D!!

Been using it for about 10 years on several different cars before meeting a very bored (and patronizing) cop. Still use the reg to this day but it is now displayed correctly!

Edited by Hol on Friday 5th March 08:10

[Bemmer]

Dave could just buy this one.......

[underwhelmist]

NGee said:

Yep, been there done that, got the t-shirt, (well the fine anyway!)

The correct plate was M30 AVE
I had it displayed as M3 0AVE. Because the car was an M3 and my name was Dave!
The 0 had not been turned into a D in any way shape or form, merely just moved along a bit

OK so that wasn't the plate I had but the principal is exactly the same, I had an '0' I just moved 1 space to the right to imply a four letter name beginning with D!!

Been using it for about 10 years on several different cars before meeting a very bored (and patronizing) cop. Still use the reg to this day but it is now displayed correctly!

This is similar to the way I had my plate mis-spaced, not on an M3 though!
It would be interesting to know where in the country people were pulled for number plate infractions, I wonder if some forces/areas are more interested than others? Aberystwyth for me.

[NGee]

underwhelmist said:

NGee said:

Yep, been there done that, got the t-shirt, (well the fine anyway!)

The correct plate was M30 AVE
I had it displayed as M3 0AVE. Because the car was an M3 and my name was Dave!
The 0 had not been turned into a D in any way shape or form, merely just moved along a bit

OK so that wasn't the plate I had but the principal is exactly the same, I had an '0' I just moved 1 space to the right to imply a four letter name beginning with D!!

Been using it for about 10 years on several different cars before meeting a very bored (and patronizing) cop. Still use the reg to this day but it is now displayed correctly!

This is similar to the way I had my plate mis-spaced, not on an M3 though!
It would be interesting to know where in the country people were pulled for number plate infractions, I wonder if some forces/areas are more interested than others? Aberystwyth for me.

Mine wasn't an M3 either, that was just an example!!

That was in W Berks although the police car was actually a Hampshire one. It was only a few yards down the road from a police training college so maybe the driver was being taught how to be a patronizing git.

[Armchair_Expert]

Bemmer said:

Dave could just buy this one.......

Its all a racket though isnt it. DVLA can "create" plates like that on their system at little to no cost ( admin button push) and then sell it for lottery money. The most expensive few key taps ever. J4 MES and a load of others are possible. Many pates have been "conjured up" by DVLA post era to offer to people that have the money to spend. As if DA V1D was ever actually released at the material time that combination related to.

And if you can afford three quarters of a million for a plate you can definitely afford the 100 fine once a year when your caught with it misspaced. By one digit. That is still easily legible. And recognizable.

[Chester draws]

Armchair_Expert said:

Bemmer said:

Dave could just buy this one.......

Its all a racket though isnt it. DVLA can "create" plates like that on their system at little to no cost ( admin button push) and then sell it for lottery money. The most expensive few key taps ever. J4 MES and a load of others are possible. Many pates have been "conjured up" by DVLA post era to offer to people that have the money to spend. As if DA V1D was ever actually released at the material time that combination related to.

And if you can afford three quarters of a million for a plate you can definitely afford the 100 fine once a year when your caught with it misspaced. By one digit. That is still easily legible. And recognizable.

The thing with DAV 1D, is that it really doesn't need to be mis-spaced to make it good.

David can display it correctly and it will look great. And he doesn't even need to worry about a fine or swapping the plates at MOT time.

(Although, it doesn't even seem to be on the road at the moment).

[CRA1G]

Armchair_Expert said:

Its all a racket though isnt it. DVLA can "create" plates like that on their system at little to no cost ( admin button push) and then sell it for lottery money.

"Racket" DVLA sold "DAV 1D" in a well publised open auction in Dec 91 for £50K + VAT and Fees... all of which lined the coffers of the government and treasury.....

[CRA1G]

Chester draws said:

The thing with DAV 1D, is that it really doesn't need to be mis-spaced to make it good.

David can display it correctly and it will look great. And he doesn't even need to worry about a fine or swapping the plates at MOT time.

(Although, it doesn't even seem to be on the road at the moment).

That's because the owner David West was murdered by his son,so now on retention....

[Jaguar steve]

CRA1G said:

Armchair_Expert said:

Its all a racket though isnt it. DVLA can "create" plates like that on their system at little to no cost ( admin button push) and then sell it for lottery money.

"Racket" DVLA sold "DAV 1D" in a well publised open auction in Dec 91 for £50K + VAT and Fees... all of which lined the coffers of the government and treasury.....

Some £2BN raised so far from the sale of number plates in the UK.

That's pretty good going from something the government has magicked out of thin air.

[Chester draws]

CRA1G said:

That's because the owner David West was murdered by his son,so now on retention....

Cripes!

[martinbiz]

Armchair_Expert said:

And if you can afford three quarters of a million for a plate you can definitely afford the 100 fine once a year

Plus of course if your prepared to take the risk that the DVLA may relieve you of it after the 3rd nick

[Armchair_Expert]

martinbiz said:

Plus of course if your prepared to take the risk that the DVLA may relieve you of it after the 3rd nick

This threat is banded about regularly, however as with most things posted on PH, it is utter nonsense. When you look at the facts, the figures for those who have actually been through this process ate startlingly small. It is actually a convoluted process and you are very very very unlikely to be the brunt of it.

In 2019, for the entire year, DVLA revoked 29 plates across the UK under this "scheme" despite receiving 2269 notifications from police.

DVLA said:

In the period 01/01/2019 and 31/12/2019 the DVLA withdrew the rights to display 29
registration numbers following a report from the police that the registration number
was being misrepresented on a vehicle.

The Agency does not hold data on the total number of letters sent in response to
police notifications, but we can confirm that in this time period the Agency received,
and acted on, 2269 police notifications.
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[vonhosen]

Armchair_Expert said:

martinbiz said:

Plus of course if your prepared to take the risk that the DVLA may relieve you of it after the 3rd nick

This threat is banded about regularly, however as with most things posted on PH, it is utter nonsense. When you look at the facts, the figures for those who have actually been through this process ate startlingly small. It is actually a convoluted process and you are very very very unlikely to be the brunt of it.

In 2019, for the entire year, DVLA revoked 29 plates across the UK under this "scheme" despite receiving 2269 notifications from police.

DVLA said:

In the period 01/01/2019 and 31/12/2019 the DVLA withdrew the rights to display 29
registration numbers following a report from the police that the registration number
was being misrepresented on a vehicle.

The Agency does not hold data on the total number of letters sent in response to
police notifications, but we can confirm that in this time period the Agency received,
and acted on, 2269 police notifications.

So what you are saying there, is that the facts say the risk does exist, it definitely does happen to people, but you just don't know how many warnings you'll get.
That's comforting when you've spent a huge chunk of cash.

[CRA1G]

vonhosen said:

So what you are saying there, is that the facts say the risk does exist, it definitely does happen to people, but you just don't know how many warnings you'll get.
That's comforting when you've spent a huge chunk of cash.

Generally it's only the cheap lower end of the plate market that miss-space anyway... "huge chunk of cash" plates rarely need any messing around with...

[Armchair_Expert]

vonhosen said:

So what you are saying there, is that the facts say the risk does exist, it definitely does happen to people, but you just don't know how many warnings you'll get.
That's comforting when you've spent a huge chunk of cash.

The risk is always there, but my point is that it is not as guaranteed to happen as some posters would have you believe.

[Bemmer]

I know of a local woman who lost her plate. iirc it was RA53 OHL and was doctored around to make it resemble RACHEL..???
I don't know how many warnings she got but eventually it was withdrawn but she only went and bought another one which the last time I saw was also messed around with....