Incorrect number plate spacing?
Discussion
CRA1G said:
vonhosen said:
So what you are saying there, is that the facts say the risk does exist, it definitely does happen to people, but you just don't know how many warnings you'll get.
That's comforting when you've spent a huge chunk of cash.
Generally it's only the cheap lower end of the plate market that miss-space anyway... "huge chunk of cash" plates rarely need any messing around with...That's comforting when you've spent a huge chunk of cash.
If it really is a "good plate" then spacing & fonts do not need changing, nor is there the need for additional screws etc.
Stoofa said:
CRA1G said:
vonhosen said:
So what you are saying there, is that the facts say the risk does exist, it definitely does happen to people, but you just don't know how many warnings you'll get.
That's comforting when you've spent a huge chunk of cash.
Generally it's only the cheap lower end of the plate market that miss-space anyway... "huge chunk of cash" plates rarely need any messing around with...That's comforting when you've spent a huge chunk of cash.
If it really is a "good plate" then spacing & fonts do not need changing, nor is there the need for additional screws etc.
Bemmer said:
I know of a local woman who lost her plate. iirc it was RA53 OHL and was doctored around to make it resemble RACHEL..???
I don't know how many warnings she got but eventually it was withdrawn but she only went and bought another one which the last time I saw was also messed around with....
Wonder if deluded RA53OHL hangs out with moronic GE62GE F?? I don't know how many warnings she got but eventually it was withdrawn but she only went and bought another one which the last time I saw was also messed around with....
Armchair_Expert said:
This threat is banded about regularly, however as with most things posted on PH, it is utter nonsense. When you look at the facts, the figures for those who have actually been through this process ate startlingly small. It is actually a convoluted process and you are very very very unlikely to be the brunt of it.
In 2019, for the entire year, DVLA revoked 29 plates across the UK under this "scheme" despite receiving 2269 notifications from police.
It is not utter nonsense at all. In 2019, for the entire year, DVLA revoked 29 plates across the UK under this "scheme" despite receiving 2269 notifications from police.
The police notified DVLA 2269 times. 2240 of those notifications were for 1st or 2nd offenses when the DVLA took no further action. 29 of those offenses were for idiots who took no notice of the warnings and managed to get done a third time.
So, yes, you are very very very unlikely to be the brunt of it - if you use a bit of common sense. If you carry on regardless and stick 2 fingers up to DVLA then you are very likely to add to the number of plates revoked.
CRA1G said:
vonhosen said:
So what you are saying there, is that the facts say the risk does exist, it definitely does happen to people, but you just don't know how many warnings you'll get.
That's comforting when you've spent a huge chunk of cash.
Generally it's only the cheap lower end of the plate market that miss-space anyway... "huge chunk of cash" plates rarely need any messing around with...That's comforting when you've spent a huge chunk of cash.
Of course it was always going to be the case that a legal plate isn't going to result in a fine or removal.
vonhosen said:
But in the conversation they were having, they were talking about circumstances involving both an illegal & high value plate (The conversation was if you can afford £750k plate you can afford a £100 fine, a fine you wouldn't be getting if it was a legal plate).
There's no posts or evidence of any £750K plates been illegal...nor £500k £250K £100K even £50K so it's completely irrelevant as no one has been issued with a fine....CRA1G said:
vonhosen said:
But in the conversation they were having, they were talking about circumstances involving both an illegal & high value plate (The conversation was if you can afford £750k plate you can afford a £100 fine, a fine you wouldn't be getting if it was a legal plate).
There's no posts or evidence of any £750K plates been illegal...nor £500k £250K £100K even £50K so it's completely irrelevant as no one has been issued with a fine....Nobody cares about circumstances where you display a legal plate.
The thread itself is about illegally spaced plates & they were talking about should you have an expensive illegally spaced plate the consequence of fines & removal.
vonhosen said:
But that was the circumstances they were discussing (even if it's a theoretical discussion) so it's your input that was completely irrelevant to the circumstances that were being discussed, as you are talking about a completely different set of circumstances to theirs.
Nobody cares about circumstances where you display a legal plate.
The thread itself is about illegally spaced plates & they were talking about should you have an expensive illegally spaced plate the consequence of fines & removal.
Ohhh... you mean if Elvis isn't really dead and he's working in a Chip Shop... that theoretically speaking...???Nobody cares about circumstances where you display a legal plate.
The thread itself is about illegally spaced plates & they were talking about should you have an expensive illegally spaced plate the consequence of fines & removal.
CRA1G said:
vonhosen said:
But that was the circumstances they were discussing (even if it's a theoretical discussion) so it's your input that was completely irrelevant to the circumstances that were being discussed, as you are talking about a completely different set of circumstances to theirs.
Nobody cares about circumstances where you display a legal plate.
The thread itself is about illegally spaced plates & they were talking about should you have an expensive illegally spaced plate the consequence of fines & removal.
Ohhh... you mean if Elvis isn't really dead and he's working in a Chip Shop... that theoretically speaking...???Nobody cares about circumstances where you display a legal plate.
The thread itself is about illegally spaced plates & they were talking about should you have an expensive illegally spaced plate the consequence of fines & removal.
NGee said:
2240 of those notifications were for 1st or 2nd offenses when the DVLA took no further action. 29 of those offenses were for idiots who took no notice of the warnings and managed to get done a third time.
Prove that.My understanding is that the 29 revocations were of repeated and flagrant misuse of the plate, which likely exceeded 3 warnings. The notifications from police will be abundant but the number of people DVLA choose to take action against are limited, so they pick the worst examples of those reported. It is not unlikely that repeat offenders are stopped 5 or 6 or more times with the appropriate notifications being sent to DVLA. There is also a delay in notification being sent by police and then processed by DVLA, with letters being sent to offenders in the first instance. Being stopped regularly means that in the 3 to 4 week turn around of notification made and letter sent, you may have been stopped a handful more times, with more notifications sent.
Armchair_Expert said:
NGee said:
2240 of those notifications were for 1st or 2nd offenses when the DVLA took no further action. 29 of those offenses were for idiots who took no notice of the warnings and managed to get done a third time.
Prove that.My understanding is that the 29 revocations were of repeated and flagrant misuse of the plate, which likely exceeded 3 warnings. The notifications from police will be abundant but the number of people DVLA choose to take action against are limited, so they pick the worst examples of those reported. It is not unlikely that repeat offenders are stopped 5 or 6 or more times with the appropriate notifications being sent to DVLA. There is also a delay in notification being sent by police and then processed by DVLA, with letters being sent to offenders in the first instance. Being stopped regularly means that in the 3 to 4 week turn around of notification made and letter sent, you may have been stopped a handful more times, with more notifications sent.
Armchair_Expert said:
vonhosen said:
No, the type that if somebody should purchase a plate & then alter spacing illegally on it type (you know on topic).
What's your view on mis-spacing an otherwise legal plate? And I am sure we crossed paths last week too, but can't be sure. 99% sure though.NGee said:
The police notified DVLA 2269 times. 2240 of those notifications were for 1st or 2nd offenses when the DVLA took no further action. 29 of those offenses were for idiots who took no notice of the warnings and managed to get done a third time.
You quoted that as if you dealt out the notifications yourself - but I know you haven't.I have working knowledge of some of the processes DVLA use and I know that it is not that simple. That is why I said above, it isn't that simple.
vonhosen said:
Silly way to leave yourself open to getting pulled over.
True, but I don't generally have it on in public. As it happens it is currently on the car as I have recently had a fair bit of work done to the car and have taken some new pics, but I may change that again soon as I am driving it into town again next Tuesday.FWIW it has been seen numerous times both in and out of London and not generated interest which doesn't surprise me to be honest. I take it you saw it?
Armchair_Expert said:
vonhosen said:
Silly way to leave yourself open to getting pulled over.
True, but I don't generally have it on in public. As it happens it is currently on the car as I have recently had a fair bit of work done to the car and have taken some new pics, but I may change that again soon as I am driving it into town again next Tuesday.FWIW it has been seen numerous times both in and out of London and not generated interest which doesn't surprise me to be honest. I take it you saw it?
So why stick your neck out?
Armchair_Expert said:
NGee said:
The police notified DVLA 2269 times. 2240 of those notifications were for 1st or 2nd offenses when the DVLA took no further action. 29 of those offenses were for idiots who took no notice of the warnings and managed to get done a third time.
You quoted that as if you dealt out the notifications yourself - but I know you haven't.I have working knowledge of some of the processes DVLA use and I know that it is not that simple. That is why I said above, it isn't that simple.
And of the 2240 what number were first DVLA notifications, 2nd, 3rd etc?
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