The smell of weed.
Discussion
Short Grain said:
Please let us know how you get on. I tried to get some Gorilla Zkittlez growing last year and both died!
It's weird, for years I was busting grow operations, now I'm growing weed legally.Going to take some getting used to because the last time I smoked weed was in the early 90's in Bergen op Zoom.
stitched said:
Its Just Adz said:
1602Mark said:
If you just speak to them like grown ups and respectfully explain the issue, they may just do something to resolve it amicably? They may simply be unaware that the stench is causing an issue to others and prefer not to bring attention to themselves by letting it continue.
This.Just speak to them, people smoking weed are usually pretty relaxed.
Now the cannabis is mostly grown here and sold without processing, the users are far more paranoid and belligerent.
I'd decriminalise the strains which have had their process refined over hundreds of years and move the homegrown 'superskunk' type varieties up the banned list.
People are smoking super strong weed because that is ALL there is out there unless you have a very lucky source. It's all that is out there because anyone growing the stuff knows it'll sell and currently people only want what's strongest as that's what they are used to because that's all that is out there, on the whole.
Legalise it, remove it form the black market and people will start asking for quality over potency. Not always, of course. I remember going to Amsterdam the 1st time and being quite surprised all the locals smoked mellow hash, and all the tourists including me bought the strongest stuff we could find.
Banning things just does not work. It doesn't.
InitialDave said:
Short Grain said:
Smoking a normal sized cig. even if it was a spliff didn't seem to draw attention then. Also didn't get the hate then for some reason.
Because it didn't smell as bad? I know the stuff people were smoking around me ~20 years back wasn't particularly offensive.It does seem like a lot of people are pretty mellow over whether or not others smoke weed, it's just the stench that's the problem.
She smoked a mild spliff with me and a bit later went to bed. Told me the next day she didn't get anything from it, in the next breath she said she'd had the best nights sleep in years!!
Only ever had one negative reaction from a short term girlfriend who went completely OTT and ran out of the house, literally, and claimed we would never get into Heaven if we carried on 'Using the Devils Drugs!!'
Well I just harvested 10 of my 12 plants. Each plant growing to about 12 feet tall was not what I expected.
As for the smell, the problem is some things you can only describe by comparison. For example, describe the colour blue without comparing it to something else; it can't be done.
The smell was neither pleasant or offensive, it was just an unusual smell, but there was a distinct difference between the different varieties.
Two of the plants were CBD, for the wife's arthritis, and these I decarboxylated in the oven to make them active for oral consumption. That did stink up the house, but again, the smell was odd but I can't think of anything to compare it with.
As for the smell, the problem is some things you can only describe by comparison. For example, describe the colour blue without comparing it to something else; it can't be done.
The smell was neither pleasant or offensive, it was just an unusual smell, but there was a distinct difference between the different varieties.
Two of the plants were CBD, for the wife's arthritis, and these I decarboxylated in the oven to make them active for oral consumption. That did stink up the house, but again, the smell was odd but I can't think of anything to compare it with.
fred bloggs said:
CoolHands said:
Everyone seems sympathetic to the smoker, but bare in mind these people then jump in their car and drive. Are you happy their driving skills are affected?
Id rather a stoned driver behind me than a pissed driver. That's for sure. When high, one only wants to drive 20 mph, as opposed to the overestimation of coherent ability a drunk person has. Why are we accepting of any person impaired and driving. Anyone driving and being in any state that affects that ability to do so is a C@@t.
Also those saying tough on the person affected. Why should they have put up with that stink from an illegal substance and affect their quality of life.
The smell of weed is entirely due to the complex array of other chemicals the plants produce (primarily turpenes). I've had the opportunity to smell quite a few in a perfectly legal situation and merely rubbing the leaves and smelling your fingers of the different strains is enough to differentiate between the plants. Some are quite pleasant, with lemon undertones (I don't like the smell of cannabis particularly)
"Skunk" smell is just an unfortunate accident of the illegal growers chasing higher and higher levels of THC by cross breeding etc. Those plants product an abundance of a particular turpene that doesn't smell particularly nice, but contains a high concentration of THC so was desirable to the drug traffickers.
"Skunk" smell is just an unfortunate accident of the illegal growers chasing higher and higher levels of THC by cross breeding etc. Those plants product an abundance of a particular turpene that doesn't smell particularly nice, but contains a high concentration of THC so was desirable to the drug traffickers.
NMNeil said:
Well I just harvested 10 of my 12 plants. Each plant growing to about 12 feet tall was not what I expected.
As for the smell, the problem is some things you can only describe by comparison. For example, describe the colour blue without comparing it to something else; it can't be done.
The smell was neither pleasant or offensive, it was just an unusual smell, but there was a distinct difference between the different varieties.
Two of the plants were CBD, for the wife's arthritis, and these I decarboxylated in the oven to make them active for oral consumption. That did stink up the house, but again, the smell was odd but I can't think of anything to compare it with.
Its amazing how weed use has changed in a relatively short period of time. I remember when was over there in early 00s going to an Indian reservation to score and genuinely being scared for my life. As for the smell, the problem is some things you can only describe by comparison. For example, describe the colour blue without comparing it to something else; it can't be done.
The smell was neither pleasant or offensive, it was just an unusual smell, but there was a distinct difference between the different varieties.
Two of the plants were CBD, for the wife's arthritis, and these I decarboxylated in the oven to make them active for oral consumption. That did stink up the house, but again, the smell was odd but I can't think of anything to compare it with.
Compared to now
I know what I would prefer my kids doing.
I dont smoke anymore but one of my neighbors clearly has started, the smell is ace, like being a student again.
How do you feel about the legalization (weren't you a cop or similar) ?
nikaiyo2 said:
How do you feel about the legalization (weren't you a cop or similar) ?
I am a retired cop.The only time I ever arrested anyone for weed was if they were being arrested for something else; shoplifting, DUI etc. and they had weed on them.
But we went through a spate of copper thefts in unoccupied houses, and all of those f**ksticks had meth on them, and they were stripping the copper to pay for their meth habit.
It's odd that people are simply smoking a plant, and one of the most dangerous plants that is legal, tobacco, is freely available at any convenience store or petrol station. and has been for decades.
Now that weed is legal, just like tobacco, they will tax it to death which will simply drive users back to the illicit sources which will be cheaper.
As I said, I grew 12 plants but ended up putting 2 through the shredder because I had way too much. After drying and curing I ended up with about 18 pounds of the stuff.
As anyone can grow this amount there will be the temptation to sell some and this will make the weed sold by unlicensed dealers even cheaper, driving out the legitimate sellers.
The war on drugs is far from over, much like the war on moonshine continues to this day; not because moonshine is any more dangerous than any other alcohol, but because the government isn't getting it's cut.
It's all about money, not public safety or health, but cold hard cash.
NMNeil said:
Well I just harvested 10 of my 12 plants. Each plant growing to about 12 feet tall was not what I expected.
As for the smell, the problem is some things you can only describe by comparison. For example, describe the colour blue without comparing it to something else; it can't be done.
The smell was neither pleasant or offensive, it was just an unusual smell, but there was a distinct difference between the different varieties.
Two of the plants were CBD, for the wife's arthritis, and these I decarboxylated in the oven to make them active for oral consumption. That did stink up the house, but again, the smell was odd but I can't think of anything to compare it with.
Where are you? Presume not the UK. As for the smell, the problem is some things you can only describe by comparison. For example, describe the colour blue without comparing it to something else; it can't be done.
The smell was neither pleasant or offensive, it was just an unusual smell, but there was a distinct difference between the different varieties.
Two of the plants were CBD, for the wife's arthritis, and these I decarboxylated in the oven to make them active for oral consumption. That did stink up the house, but again, the smell was odd but I can't think of anything to compare it with.
Having a family turned out to be a perfect cure for my sleep problems, so I stopped smoking a while back. But I found a seed this summer in a drawer, and popped it into a tea cup sized plant pot on the roof. Checked on it precisely once, and it still turned out pretty well. Makes me wonder if the fancy nutes etc are actually required.
Nobody noticed the smell, I could just about smell it from the top of the ladder. It really does grow like a weed!
aparna said:
Where are you? Presume not the UK.
Having a family turned out to be a perfect cure for my sleep problems, so I stopped smoking a while back. But I found a seed this summer in a drawer, and popped it into a tea cup sized plant pot on the roof. Checked on it precisely once, and it still turned out pretty well. Makes me wonder if the fancy nutes etc are actually required.
Nobody noticed the smell, I could just about smell it from the top of the ladder. It really does grow like a weed!
I'm in New Mexico, where it's legal to grow 12 plants per household for your own consumption.Having a family turned out to be a perfect cure for my sleep problems, so I stopped smoking a while back. But I found a seed this summer in a drawer, and popped it into a tea cup sized plant pot on the roof. Checked on it precisely once, and it still turned out pretty well. Makes me wonder if the fancy nutes etc are actually required.
Nobody noticed the smell, I could just about smell it from the top of the ladder. It really does grow like a weed!
As for growing it, I dug 12 holes each about a foot deep, put in some plants I had started from seed that were about 8" tall and filled around them with store bought potting soil. Spread a handful of cheap tomato fertilizer on top of the soil and watered. We don't get much rain here so I gave them a drink of well water every 2 weeks or so. No need for any sort of insect spray as I have plenty of praying mantis and tarantulas which have a voracious appetite for bugs. Left them alone until the lower leaves began to turn yellow and the first amber trichromes showed, then chopped and dried them.
That's about as basic as you can get.
aparna said:
Where are you? Presume not the UK.
Having a family turned out to be a perfect cure for my sleep problems, so I stopped smoking a while back. But I found a seed this summer in a drawer, and popped it into a tea cup sized plant pot on the roof. Checked on it precisely once, and it still turned out pretty well. Makes me wonder if the fancy nutes etc are actually required.
Nobody noticed the smell, I could just about smell it from the top of the ladder. It really does grow like a weed!
When you think of how much industrial hemp was (and still is) grown in this country out in big fields with basic fertiliser and sunlight, that doesn't surprise me - aren't they meant to be pretty hardy plants? Success probably depends more on who your neighbours are; I don't like the smell but TBH I couldn't give a toss if someone was growing a couple of plants for their own use at home, I'd rather see a couple of shrubs in their garden than the fluorescent glow of special lamps from their windows when I'm enjoying some night-time darkness in the garden. Having a family turned out to be a perfect cure for my sleep problems, so I stopped smoking a while back. But I found a seed this summer in a drawer, and popped it into a tea cup sized plant pot on the roof. Checked on it precisely once, and it still turned out pretty well. Makes me wonder if the fancy nutes etc are actually required.
Nobody noticed the smell, I could just about smell it from the top of the ladder. It really does grow like a weed!
I saw a thing in the local TV news a few years back where a farmer kept on having large quantities of hemp plants stolen - he'd had to put up signs explaining that there was no point stealing his plants because they don't have the active ingredients of marijuana despite being from the same family and looking the same. Basically it was like stealing someones potatoes in the hope that you'll get to eat some tomatoes.
stitched said:
Its Just Adz said:
1602Mark said:
If you just speak to them like grown ups and respectfully explain the issue, they may just do something to resolve it amicably? They may simply be unaware that the stench is causing an issue to others and prefer not to bring attention to themselves by letting it continue.
This.Just speak to them, people smoking weed are usually pretty relaxed.
Now the cannabis is mostly grown here and sold without processing, the users are far more paranoid and belligerent.
I'd decriminalise the strains which have had their process refined over hundreds of years and move the homegrown 'superskunk' type varieties up the banned list.
Whether it stinks or not, moat people are very chilled and relaxed on it and will give nobody any bother. Massively less problematic than alcohol.
Why would you ban a plant ffs?
hucumber said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
I find it utterly hideous.
It also destroys lives but fans of it will say it doesn't.
It can do, but so can alcohol. Depends on the userIt also destroys lives but fans of it will say it doesn't.
Derek Smith said:
Ecstasy users can be a pain. Really argumentative and stroppy, but certainly not as bad as drunks.
You absolutely must be having a laugh. That or getting mixed up with “Ecstasy user” and some pisshead who’s had 9 pints and managed to find a pill at the end of the night.Like I said no one hits just one substance as a substance user.
A weed smoker never touches cocaine and vice versa?
Ontop of that they'll touch alcohol as well at points.
Any substance user (I'm not classing substance user as alcohol) uses other chemicals also.
Also you smoke weed?
At somepoint you are over the permitted drive limit.
If you smoke three days ago it'll still be in your system. So that smoke on a Fri night with your middle class friends and a bump on Monday morning or pulled on a Sunday night coming back from somewhere and drugs wiped? It'll be the same ban as drink drive.
A weed smoker never touches cocaine and vice versa?
Ontop of that they'll touch alcohol as well at points.
Any substance user (I'm not classing substance user as alcohol) uses other chemicals also.
Also you smoke weed?
At somepoint you are over the permitted drive limit.
If you smoke three days ago it'll still be in your system. So that smoke on a Fri night with your middle class friends and a bump on Monday morning or pulled on a Sunday night coming back from somewhere and drugs wiped? It'll be the same ban as drink drive.
Edited by Hugo Stiglitz on Saturday 9th October 12:20
Elatino1 said:
hucumber said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
I find it utterly hideous.
It also destroys lives but fans of it will say it doesn't.
It can do, but so can alcohol. Depends on the userIt also destroys lives but fans of it will say it doesn't.
From what I've seen with those around me weed is addictive, and it is a gateway drug. I know when I said that before someone had some weasel words about how it wasn't this sort of addiction but rather that sort of addiction, but fact is some people do it more and more, and it takes over their life and that is the problem.
I'm not saying alcohol is fine either, I've seen people nearly killed by it then start drinking again. Madness.
What really does annoy me about both is the normalisation of it around kids. Don't spark up in front of your children, and don't come in rolling drunk in front of them either.
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Like I said no one hits just one substance as a substance user.
A weed smoker never touches cocaine and vice versa?
Ontop of that they'll touch alcohol as well at points.
Any substance user (I'm not classing substance user as alcohol) uses other chemicals also.
Also you smoke weed?
At somepoint you are over the permitted drive limit.
If you smoke three days ago it'll still be in your system. So that smoke on a Fri night with your middle class friends and a bump on Monday morning or pulled on a Sunday night coming back from somewhere and drugs wiped? It'll be the same ban as drink drive.
I bet you're fun at partiesA weed smoker never touches cocaine and vice versa?
Ontop of that they'll touch alcohol as well at points.
Any substance user (I'm not classing substance user as alcohol) uses other chemicals also.
Also you smoke weed?
At somepoint you are over the permitted drive limit.
If you smoke three days ago it'll still be in your system. So that smoke on a Fri night with your middle class friends and a bump on Monday morning or pulled on a Sunday night coming back from somewhere and drugs wiped? It'll be the same ban as drink drive.
Edited by Hugo Stiglitz on Saturday 9th October 12:20
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