Main dealer used bike purchase.

Main dealer used bike purchase.

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sospan

2,486 posts

223 months

Monday 14th June 2021
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Take the refund. Walk away with a clear head.
Has the dealer said why there is a delay?
Has the previous owner given you reasons why he sold it to the dealer?
If you do decide to buy the bike then I suggest you delve deeper to find out the history first.

fred bloggs

1,308 posts

201 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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blade7 said:
It does seem that some people buy a Ducati to look at rather than ride..
They are at least using it correctly. Riding it makes it fall apart.

carreauchompeur

17,852 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Depends whether it’s owners or keepers. My Mercedes was pre registered and on the same day purchased by the previous keeper. When I come to sell it, it’s had 2 previous owners.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,185 posts

212 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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MustangGT said:
Owners, did they say 2nd owner or two previous?

Not ready, perhaps they need to do more than they thought. Talk to them, not us.
Do more than thought?

Unless it's a pup why would they literally sit on it?

I know your feeling OP. One of the things that attracted me to my car was the 'one owner from new'.

Finding out I was the third owner ranked.

This along with other niggles and I perhaps wouldn't have chosen that particular car.

It's a great car but I've got a personal thing for one owner vehicles.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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kestral said:
"The bike will be ready in 2 weeks" It's not. Breach of contract
Without seeing the order form you can't really make this statement.

KungFuPanda

4,334 posts

171 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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The Spruce Goose said:
kestral said:
"The bike will be ready in 2 weeks" It's not. Breach of contract
Without seeing the order form you can't really make this statement.
Yep. A bit of slippage isn’t enough to void the contract unless the OP inserted a “time is of the essence” term into the contract. Which I doubt he has.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,185 posts

212 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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KungFuPanda said:
Yep. A bit of slippage isn’t enough to void the contract unless the OP inserted a “time is of the essence” term into the contract. Which I doubt he has.
No it's misold. The number of keepers.

It affects the value and desirability.

So is not the same as what was advertised/told to the prospective buyer.

Biker 1

7,746 posts

120 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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I'm guessing there is a parts delay. Even service consumables are problematic right now. I was quoted by a big franchised main dealer that a KTM clutch slave cylinder could take a couple of weeks to get hold of, & these things seems to break down on a regular basis. Not sure if its similar with Ducati, but Brexit/CV19/Suez Canal blockage are apparently causing some very annoying parts supply issues....

blade7

Original Poster:

11,311 posts

217 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Verbal agreement. Confirmed by email. 160 mile round trip. Parts delayed. Constitutes a contract?

vaud

50,623 posts

156 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Biker 1 said:
I'm guessing there is a parts delay. Even service consumables are problematic right now. I was quoted by a big franchised main dealer that a KTM clutch slave cylinder could take a couple of weeks to get hold of, & these things seems to break down on a regular basis. Not sure if its similar with Ducati, but Brexit/CV19/Suez Canal blockage are apparently causing some very annoying parts supply issues....
5 weeks for some Volvo parts for me.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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KungFuPanda said:
The Spruce Goose said:
kestral said:
"The bike will be ready in 2 weeks" It's not. Breach of contract
Without seeing the order form you can't really make this statement.
Yep. A bit of slippage isn’t enough to void the contract unless the OP inserted a “time is of the essence” term into the contract. Which I doubt he has.
Nope, Kestral is like a barrister or a QC or sumfink and therefore whatever he says is 100% legit!

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Centurion07 said:
Nope, Kestral is like a barrister or a QC or sumfink and therefore whatever he says is 100% legit!
Well if he is one and misses out basic stuff like this, god help his clients.

He is also incorrect about the statement of mispresentation without seeing the advert or what was told to the OP but i couldn't be arsed to point that out.

i'm not a laywer but i don't think you have to be with basic law issues such as consumer law or contracts.

Wombat3

12,218 posts

207 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Could have been a demonstrator & first registered by the original dealer. Or they registered it because of some sales incentive. Both happen all the time.

Its a used bike, buy on the spec, the condition & the service history. I have never understood the obsession with numbers of former keepers. What difference does it make & who cares?

vaud

50,623 posts

156 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Wombat3 said:
Could have been a demonstrator & first registered by the original dealer. Or they registered it because of some sales incentive. Both happen all the time.

Its a used bike, buy on the spec, the condition & the service history. I have never understood the obsession with numbers of former keepers. What difference does it make & who cares?
In the 1-2-3 I don't think it matters.

But if you take say a 5 year old car and it has 6+ keepers I would be doing a lot of due diligence.

Wombat3

12,218 posts

207 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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vaud said:
Wombat3 said:
Could have been a demonstrator & first registered by the original dealer. Or they registered it because of some sales incentive. Both happen all the time.

Its a used bike, buy on the spec, the condition & the service history. I have never understood the obsession with numbers of former keepers. What difference does it make & who cares?
In the 1-2-3 I don't think it matters.

But if you take say a 5 year old car and it has 6+ keepers I would be doing a lot of due diligence.
I bought a 10 year old car once - it had 10 former keepers. Its now 32 years old, It still has 10 former keepers smile

AFAIK there is pretty much no way to trace former keepers barring the last one. Anything used you buy on spec, service history and condition.

I'd be more interested in why this thing is taking so long to get ready. What is it missing?

Ducati's parts supply direct from Italy is usually no more than 2-3 days unless something is on back-order.



Biker 1

7,746 posts

120 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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Wombat3 said:
Ducati's parts supply direct from Italy is usually no more than 2-3 days unless something is on back-order.
Unless its some obscure part that wouldn't normally break(??)

vaud

50,623 posts

156 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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Or it has a chip in it. Big shortages of many processors at the moment.

final_edition

653 posts

216 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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There is a backlog on Ducati parts at the moment.

With customs clearance at Midlands airport being part of the issue.

Even tyres and to some extent oil being in short supply.

final_edition

653 posts

216 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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I see you actually bought the bike.

deebs

555 posts

61 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Did you take the refund?

I bought a used KTM from a main dealer 4 weeks ago and I'm still waiting for delivery. I'm getting tired of waiting now.