Can I ignore the painted left lane arrow roundabout approach

[Boosted LS1]

ShampooEfficient said:

CoolHands said:

Well, that’s debatable. It’s not prohibited. Which I wasn’t sure about hence asking. I like to know the potential penalties of my misdeeds.

Potentially having a crash when the person you're going round the outside of doesn't look to the nearside or in their nearside mirror because they're not expecting you to be there...?

They should look in all directions unless they're retarded.

[NGee]

Boosted LS1 said:

They should look in all directions unless they're retarded.

Yes, they should, but they don't. So why put yourself it that position?

[silverfoxcc]

Lane discipline..ha ha

At this one i burst a tyre on the bus taking avoiding action to some numpty

https://earth.google.com/web/search/bracknell/@51....

have a look at the rod markings on the road coming from the top right. both lanes can go 2nd exit. Only the tts on the inside decide to go straight to the lh lane on exiting, which puts the poor sap who has gone around with him in a very awkward position. as i found when he didn.t see a 16 seat mini bus next to him ( i could have just carried on,as a write off for him was a dead dert, but didn't fancy all the paper work. Burst tyres are just that , they happen.Oh and since then i just hang back a bit as we go around, but one day, i will be in a 50.00 last legs and left them carry on!!!

Before you ask why don't you take the RH lane, i ,and others, may be wanting to take the slip toad onto the A3290 about 500yds further along, and it saves cutting across to the left.

[Drawweight]

I had an accident with a bus on the infamous Sherrifhall roundabout outside Edinburgh. The bus came out the junction after me and as the road was busy decided to take the n/s lane and cut across the junction I was turning onto contrary to all the arrows and road signs.

I wasn’t prepared to take 50 / 50 without a fight, collecting loads of photos and diagrams. The killer was that fortunately we got a look at his statement in which he admitted being in the wrong lane ‘because his bus was too big to go round the roundabout otherwise’

We got ruled in our favour which as everyone knows is very very unusual on a roundabout. Especially without any dashcam evidence.

That kind of negates my post above about expecting the unexpected but hey ho this is the internet. Everybody knows the correct thing to do but doesn’t always do it.

[covboy]

This one is also a nightmare. The solution to ease congestion ? They are going to add more lanes on the approach roads !!!!

[JNW1]

Turning right at a roundabout having approached it in the left lane just strikes me as a daft thing to do. It's perhaps excusable if someone's not familiar with an area and has got in the wrong lane by mistake - that's probably happened to all of us at some point - but to deliberately pick the wrong lane just because it might save you a few seconds is poor driving IMO.

[98elise]

Boosted LS1 said:

ShampooEfficient said:

CoolHands said:

Well, that’s debatable. It’s not prohibited. Which I wasn’t sure about hence asking. I like to know the potential penalties of my misdeeds.

Potentially having a crash when the person you're going round the outside of doesn't look to the nearside or in their nearside mirror because they're not expecting you to be there...?

They should look in all directions unless they're retarded.

More, or less retarded than purposely ignoring road signs?

Bear in mind the OP wants to turn right at a roundabout from the left lane.

Edited by 98elise on Tuesday 22 June 10:45

[Countdown]

JNW1 said:

Turning right at a roundabout having approached it in the left lane just strikes me as a daft thing to do. It's perhaps excusable if someone's not familiar with an area and has got in the wrong lane by mistake - that's probably happened to all of us at some point - but to deliberately pick the wrong lane just because it might save you a few seconds is poor driving IMO.

It's selfishness, pure and simple. It's a bit like using the Right Hand filter lane at traffic lights but accelerating hard and then cutting into the "straight ahead" lane. 99 times out of a hundred there's no negative outcome because most people don't drive like idiots. And if there is a negative outcome then well, it's the other drivers fault for not checking.....

[PistonBroker]

Amazing you even considered it OP.

Though I think a lot of people here in Taunton think I'm doing a you most mornings as I insist on using a left and straight on lane to go straight on and everyone else defaults to going straight on in the right. To the extent that it backs up the A38 along that section.

I know I'm correct, but I know that the other drivers think they're correct - every now and then I'll get some road rage as they think I'm being a cheeky beggar. God knows how they'd react if they encountered someone like you who really was in the wrong and shouldn't be there!

[ShampooEfficient]

98elise said:

Boosted LS1 said:

ShampooEfficient said:

CoolHands said:

Well, that’s debatable. It’s not prohibited. Which I wasn’t sure about hence asking. I like to know the potential penalties of my misdeeds.

Potentially having a crash when the person you're going round the outside of doesn't look to the nearside or in their nearside mirror because they're not expecting you to be there...?

They should look in all directions unless they're retarded.

More, or less retarded than purposely ignoring road signs?

Bear in mind the OP wants to turn right at a roundabout from the left lane.

Edited by 98elise on Tuesday 22 June 10:45

It doesn't matter what people should do, it's what they do do that determines if they're going to have a crash (or near miss, or get involved in a road rage punch up). 99pc of the time people who regularly use the junction will exit the roundabout with nothing to their left, so they won't place the same value on looking to their nearside and won't always check, because there shouldn't be anything there to look for.

That 1pc of the time when something is there is when a collision is going to occur, and I can't understand why anyone would deliberately put themselves in that position of danger.

If it's a worthwhile time saving, go down the left lane, turn left then turn around in a junction and approach the roundabout from the next road round?

[donkmeister]

OP, if you think that allowing both lanes to turn right into their respective lanes on the other side would be an improvement to overall traffic flow, write to the local authority and suggest it. Contrary to the evidence, some councils do actually take it on board.

From experience, if they do realign things in the way you suggest, you'll have about a year of adjustment where people in the offside lane on entry try to leave in the nearside lane and get angry with you for not driving the road how it was as opposed to how it now is.

[Thebaggers]

Good luck with this in rush hour, OP

[Boosted LS1]

^ Holy moley, where's that? Probably not as bad as it looks from a driving position.

[Alucidnation]

That looks like the magic roundabout in Swindon.

[T6 vanman]

Indeed it is,

Actually a very easy when used as a set of individual road junctions,

However when teaching T6 junior in a car without duel controls

Yes I did use the term duel correctly

[T6 vanman]

CoolHands said:

deeen said:

It's dangerous, because the vehicle in the correct lane will not be expecting someone on the inside. As for legality, it might be considered dwdca, maybe one of our resident bib could confirm / refute this.

But in the approach from the right of the pic it is exactly the same except the floor painted arrow.

In my example the driver on the right will see me on his left as we will both be at the entrance to the roundabout together. We both stay in lane (me outer lane him inner lane) and go to our 2nd exit. So I don’t think it is dangerous unless they are incompetent?

The mistake you make is ..... The car to your right doesn't stay in lane in your scenario but takes this 'inner lane' and you breach your markings and encroach to take their 'outer lane', Think of the 'inner lane' as a lane for those already established on the roundabout from a previous entrance, the 2 exits are to allow both to exit due to road volume requirements

[Heaveho]

It's essentially an overtake on the inside, when the road markings have already established that you shouldn't be there at all, due to the fact that you were meant to turn left. How you can call other drivers incompetent when you're clearly the one in the wrong is beyond ironic.

[Thebaggers]

T6 vanman said:

Indeed it is,

Actually a very easy when used as a set of individual road junctions,

However when teaching T6 junior in a car without duel controls

Yes I did use the term duel correctly

Yes, always fun! Clockwise and anti clockwise roundabouts totally gridlocked at rush hour. The secret is to look confident and make progress and observe your neighbouring drivers. Interesting thing is you can plot any number of routes through to your exit point!