Sketchy towing
Discussion
snowandrocks said:
60 mph is quite impressive for that combination especially with the fairly weedy engine that's likely fitted to the van - I've spent quite a bit of time driving a 3.0 Ducato and I'm not even sure that would be up to it.
It was never doing 60mph under tow was it. We all know that!dhutch said:
snowandrocks said:
60 mph is quite impressive for that combination especially with the fairly weedy engine that's likely fitted to the van - I've spent quite a bit of time driving a 3.0 Ducato and I'm not even sure that would be up to it.
It was never doing 60mph under tow was it. We all know that!A series one land rover, with at best a 2 litre engine.
Probably not good for 60mph though.
To be fair, once you're rolling, I'd have thought 60 was ok. My 2.5 TDI could theoretically tow 3.5 tonnes at speed.
Essel said:
At Wythall transport museum, there are Birmingham double decker buses through the ages. When I went there some years ago, I spotted their original recovery vehicle.
A series one land rover, with at best a 2 litre engine.
Probably not good for 60mph though.
To be fair, once you're rolling, I'd have thought 60 was ok. My 2.5 TDI could theoretically tow 3.5 tonnes at speed.
Low ratio box though, it might not be fast, but it will tow a bus.A series one land rover, with at best a 2 litre engine.
Probably not good for 60mph though.
To be fair, once you're rolling, I'd have thought 60 was ok. My 2.5 TDI could theoretically tow 3.5 tonnes at speed.
monthou said:
Trackdayer said:
monthou said:
Keeping a tow rope taut the whole time would be a neat trick.
Not really, just a very gentle application of the brakes on the vehicle being towed does it.Towing at speed is a great way of learning how to anticipate what’s ahead of you.
buggalugs said:
A couple of years ago I saw a Honda Accord towing a vehicle transporter with a tow rope, doing 80 in the fast lane of the M6, that was a bit of a WTF moment.
Have a distant memory of my dad towing a double decker bus out of a field near Malaga - using his Tr7 to tow start the double decker ( london red bus on tour to Spain ).He deserved extra towing points as His Tr7 was not even a V8 - it was just a crappy 2.0 ! Have a photo of this somewhere in the family album towing the bus.
MissChief said:
monthou said:
MissChief said:
I got overtaken several times on my 900 mile round trip on Friday by 4x4's towing trailers. I was doing 70ish and it happened twice at least.
Were they using tow ropes?
monthou said:
.......A trailer being pulled at 80 on the motorway is unexceptional and no cause for alarm. It's illegal here but would be fine in France (and I'd guess elsewhere in Europe).
A trailer doing 80 overtaking someone doing 70 on a single carriageway sounds nuts.
A trailer doing 80 overtaking someone doing 70 on a single carriageway would have me wondering where the f*@k the vehicle was, that was supposed to be towing the trailer! A trailer doing 80 overtaking someone doing 70 on a single carriageway sounds nuts.
4rephill said:
monthou said:
.......A trailer being pulled at 80 on the motorway is unexceptional and no cause for alarm. It's illegal here but would be fine in France (and I'd guess elsewhere in Europe).
A trailer doing 80 overtaking someone doing 70 on a single carriageway sounds nuts.
A trailer doing 80 overtaking someone doing 70 on a single carriageway would have me wondering where the f*@k the vehicle was, that was supposed to be towing the trailer! A trailer doing 80 overtaking someone doing 70 on a single carriageway sounds nuts.
Thanks for putting me straight.
Should be an advert for Vauxhall 
Cat said:
Depends if you're talking about the service brake or the park brake. The park brake will be applied if there is insufficient air pressure but it is is possible to prevent this by winding the brakes back. The service brake on the other hand will not work if there isn't enough air pressure.
Cat
I am confident that the stored air pressure holds the brake linings off, and that applying the pedal bleeds air pressure which allows the linings to come into contact with the brake drum.Cat
When air brakes fail due to loss of air pressure, the brakes engage fully and the wheels lock. When the air reserve is depleted, the brakes engage fully and the wheels lock.
This is not a matter of opinion.
944 Man said:
Cat said:
Depends if you're talking about the service brake or the park brake. The park brake will be applied if there is insufficient air pressure but it is is possible to prevent this by winding the brakes back. The service brake on the other hand will not work if there isn't enough air pressure.
Cat
I am confident that the stored air pressure holds the brake linings off, and that applying the pedal bleeds air pressure which allows the linings to come into contact with the brake drum.Cat
When air brakes fail due to loss of air pressure, the brakes engage fully and the wheels lock. When the air reserve is depleted, the brakes engage fully and the wheels lock.
This is not a matter of opinion.
if you have no/insufficient air pressure the service brake will not work. The park brake would normally be applied when there is insufficient pressure but they can be wound back so that shoe/pad doesnt contact the drum/disc and the brake won't operate even if there is no air.
Cat
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