Mandatory Speed Limiters from 6th July 2022

Mandatory Speed Limiters from 6th July 2022

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NMNeil

5,860 posts

51 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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bigothunter said:
I used to wonder why the motoring public tolerated increasing authoritarian crap, with hardly a whimper.

Then I came to terms with actually, who gives a fk?

Now I realise that an overwhelming majority actually support these new restrictions. My viewpoint has been out of kilter since 1965 hehe
It's the same with other things, if you can't be trusted with a dangerous item, they take it away.
When they introduced the ban on guns, were you up in arms and crying authoritarian crap, or was that different?

bigothunter

11,315 posts

61 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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Harry H said:
bigothunter said:
Pixelpeep 135 said:
The Royal Society for The Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA) reported that in the UK (2018), 186 people were killed in crashes involving someone exceeding the speed limit.

An average of 666 people were killed in drink driving related accidents in Great Britain each year

Yet we plough how much money, time and resource into 'speeding' to help reduce road deaths?

How many more old fashioned patrols could we afford to catch the dangerous / drunk / drug drivers that we've spent developing, installing and maintaining the thousands of speed cameras and limiter/limiter infrastructure ?

oh and lastly, just for 'fun' - 5691 suicides in 2019 - how about tackling some of that and making a real difference.
I agree thumbup A logical point which I could have made before enlightenment.

The demon is speed. It kills. Propaganda makes this 'fact' unquestionable. Buck that doctrine at your peril.
Nah, it generates an awful lot of cash.
Demonising speed satisfies many aspects of our culture: reducing emissions, reducing noise, placating The Green Party, placating Brake, placating Mumsnet, being seen to do the right thing, token to road safety etc, etc. Generating cash from fines is an added bonus.

bigothunter

11,315 posts

61 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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Pixelpeep 135 said:
it won't for long lol
You're right - the clamp is on and our bks are in it eek

Jim1556

1,771 posts

157 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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NMNeil said:
It's the same with other things, if you can't be trusted with a dangerous item, they take it away.
When they introduced the ban on guns, were you up in arms and crying authoritarian crap, or was that different?
With the appropriate licence/permit, you can still have a gun. Extreme case in point: the prick who had his permit renewed a few weeks before killing 5 innocent people near Plymouth, 'cos he wasn't getting any!!! Tw@

bigothunter

11,315 posts

61 months

Wednesday 18th August 2021
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NMNeil said:
bigothunter said:
I used to wonder why the motoring public tolerated increasing authoritarian crap, with hardly a whimper.

Then I came to terms with actually, who gives a fk?

Now I realise that an overwhelming majority actually support these new restrictions. My viewpoint has been out of kilter since 1965 hehe
It's the same with other things, if you can't be trusted with a dangerous item, they take it away.
When they introduced the ban on guns, were you up in arms and crying authoritarian crap, or was that different?
No but my interest in guns is not passionate. Still shoot clay occasionally and I'm sure target shooting is still available. So not really any problem.

Did drivers abuse their rights so nanny was forced to remove them? Didn't realise that. Smacks of treat people like children and they will act like children, but perhaps that is what the government wants? scratchchin

Vanden Crash

769 posts

51 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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The technology isn’t up to it

The amount of times my various cars misreport the speed limit on the dash is worrying, especially as my partner religiously follows the cars display


Pit Pony

8,655 posts

122 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Someone I know, works for a supermarket delivering stuff. He regularly sets the speed limit or to 25 mph as he drives into the compound and hands over the van to the next guy without turning it off.
Usually they turn off to pack the next delivery in, but occassionally they leave it running to keep it nice and warm in the cab.
Apparently some of the other drivers have complained about the van. Main dealer can find no faults.
It's the little things that keep you sane.

bigothunter

11,315 posts

61 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Vanden Crash said:
The technology isn’t up to it

The amount of times my various cars misreport the speed limit on the dash is worrying, especially as my partner religiously follows the cars display
It's going to be chaos - I can hardly wait hehe

Vanden Crash

769 posts

51 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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bigothunter said:
It's going to be chaos - I can hardly wait hehe
The Volvo is pretty good but the Tesla is a death waiting to happen

bigothunter

11,315 posts

61 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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tarquin274

113 posts

49 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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bigothunter said:
Poor 'ol Rory; replaced on Top Gear by a couple of bozos.

Debaser

6,004 posts

262 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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If autonomous cars are safe and don’t crash, surely they don’t need to be speed limited?

bigothunter

11,315 posts

61 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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Debaser said:
If autonomous cars are safe and don’t crash, surely they don’t need to be speed limited?
Prospect of 200mph autonomous capability on dedicated lanes? Restrict moronic humans to 50mph? scratchchin

https://www.inverse.com/article/28110-self-driving...


romeogolf

2,056 posts

120 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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Article Said said:
Can you remove a speed limiter?
Currently, the regulation permits you to switch the speed limiter off.
So... It's still going to be a button to press if you don't want it?

bigothunter

11,315 posts

61 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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romeogolf said:
Article Said said:
Can you remove a speed limiter?
Currently, the regulation permits you to switch the speed limiter off.
So... It's still going to be a button to press if you don't want it?
Initially yes but your car will still nag if you exceed limits. But after this familiarisation period, authorities have already stated they plan to 'upgrade' to hard speed limiters without any latitude.

Debaser

6,004 posts

262 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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bigothunter said:
Debaser said:
If autonomous cars are safe and don’t crash, surely they don’t need to be speed limited?
Prospect of 200mph autonomous capability on dedicated lanes? Restrict moronic humans to 50mph? scratchchin

https://www.inverse.com/article/28110-self-driving...
Sounds like a nightmare. Which means someone in power will propose it.

DodgyGeezer

40,561 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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Debaser said:
bigothunter said:
Debaser said:
If autonomous cars are safe and don’t crash, surely they don’t need to be speed limited?
Prospect of 200mph autonomous capability on dedicated lanes? Restrict moronic humans to 50mph? scratchchin

https://www.inverse.com/article/28110-self-driving...
Sounds like a nightmare. Which means someone in power will propose it.
Maybe this is where flying cars will come in - leave all us dinosaurs on the ground driving whereas all the self driving (flying) take to the skies

bigothunter

11,315 posts

61 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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DodgyGeezer said:
Maybe this is where flying cars will come in - leave all us dinosaurs on the ground driving whereas all the self driving (flying) take to the skies
Modern passenger planes are almost fully autonomous so self-flying cars may not be so farfetched. But unless VTOL, we would need more airfields whistle

Derek Smith

45,739 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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I've used a speed limiter in towns, but purely as a sort of safety measure. I found myself continually looking at the speedometer.


exelero

1,890 posts

90 months

Saturday 4th September 2021
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Just another way to control us as if hearing and recording every move we do on or offline was not enough….