Accused of assault

[Sheepshanks]

pavarotti1980 said:

I concur with your opinion of union reps. Father in law is one and goes on like Perry Mason. Utterly useless in my opinion but keeps him out of our hair due to doing "appeals"

Yes, but it's the access to "proper" legal advice that should be useful. If that isn't working then they are indeed useless.

Another poster mentioned some sort of legal cover - I think, like Roadside Assistance, it'd be sensible to have something in place even if it's just as a safety net.

[anonymous-user]

Bingobobster said:

Thanks again all. Just received a call from the Head to tell me interview now concluded with the boys mum, a Police officer and staff ( Head / Dept Head and line manager). Long and the short of it, mum informed by the Police who apparently decided my actions were construed to be falling under the umbrella of 'loco parentis' and they would not be pursuing the matter further.

School stated to mum that the incident did not fall within their threshold to be investigated and consider the matter closed.

News to me, but school informed me apparently mum had been ranting her views on Facebook all weekend ( I've not seen it/don't have FB ) and even after watching the video, still thought that his injuries were caused by me so was not happy with the result. Apparently she left and has told the school that she will not be bringing either of her 2 boys back to school ( both the same behaviour wise, I might add ). Whether she does or not, I don't know.

I have been invited to go in for a meeting first thing at 0830am with the Head nd Dept and then asked to continue as normal with their full support. Also informed Police will be contacting me to confirm no further action with allegation.

Thanks again.

Sounds like a positive outcome. Wouldn’t want a kid like that back at school anyway but… sounds like she is going to drag this one out. If she gets into trouble for kids missing school.. she’ll try blame the school and well ultimately let’s hope Karen finds a school willing to take them in.

Lessons learned OP. Onward and upward.
Hope your meeting with the Head goes well and all is put to right.

[Swampy1982]

The right result in the end, I'd ask then to confirm it in writing though...

[Superflow]

Jeez what a sad indictment on modern times.

I think it started going downhill in the nineties and now you have this appalling thug culture with degenerates breeding degenerates.Time to get tough on the parents.

[NGee]

What a great result for common sense, a rarity nowadays, and obviously a great result for the OP.
In fact if the kids don't come back to school it's a win win for everyone.

[PurpleTurtle]

Bingobobster said:

Thanks again all. Just received a call from the Head to tell me interview now concluded with the boys mum, a Police officer and staff ( Head / Dept Head and line manager). Long and the short of it, mum informed by the Police who apparently decided my actions were construed to be falling under the umbrella of 'loco parentis' and they would not be pursuing the matter further.

School stated to mum that the incident did not fall within their threshold to be investigated and consider the matter closed.

News to me, but school informed me apparently mum had been ranting her views on Facebook all weekend ( I've not seen it/don't have FB ) and even after watching the video, still thought that his injuries were caused by me so was not happy with the result. Apparently she left and has told the school that she will not be bringing either of her 2 boys back to school ( both the same behaviour wise, I might add ). Whether she does or not, I don't know.

I have been invited to go in for a meeting first thing at 0830am with the Head nd Dept and then asked to continue as normal with their full support. Also informed Police will be contacting me to confirm no further action with allegation.

Thanks again.

Great news OP.

Your colleagues owe you a beer. If the Karen in question does get them into another school then they are someone else's problem, but not your schools.

I would echo what the others have said - if you have been personally named on social media get someone to get hold of a load of screen grabs and then go legal

https://www.igniyte.co.uk/blog/can-you-sue-for-def...

You're unlikely to get any damages as the perp will just please poverty but a takedown and an apology could be forced, and she might just rub both her brain cells together next time to stop her doing it to someone else.

God I hate pond life like this. As a parent of a 7yo, so someone fairly new to the education system, I despair at the amount of dhead adults and their feral children that one has to deal with, that you don't otherwise tend to encounter unless you are a parent. My missus is a TA in a school and they amount of bullst the schools have to deal with is incredible.

[GasEngineer]

Great result OP. Have they said what action is being taken against the boy given the CCTV proof?

[V1nce Fox]

They’ll do fk all. Teachers are sitting targets and unless you can prove it, you’ll take the blame.

Good result for OP given the circumstances though, well done.

[Drooles]

Really pleased for you OP. Glad it worked out and you can get back to doing what you love

[Foss62]

Sheepshanks said:

pavarotti1980 said:

I concur with your opinion of union reps. Father in law is one and goes on like Perry Mason. Utterly useless in my opinion but keeps him out of our hair due to doing "appeals"

Yes, but it's the access to "proper" legal advice that should be useful. If that isn't working then they are indeed useless.

Another poster mentioned some sort of legal cover - I think, like Roadside Assistance, it'd be sensible to have something in place even if it's just as a safety net.

The union rep should be nowhere near a case like this. If contacted they would escalate it straight to specialist lawyers employed or contracted by the union.
If a particular union is using useless professionals (or maybe more likely they have not achieved the result the member wanted), that doesn’t damn all unions.
Anyway - great to hear that the OP’s case is now resolved.

[Canon_Fodder]

Good riddance to the kid and his mum who have been rightly humiliated

[21TonyK]

Good result OP. As you know though, the mum saying shes not letting either kid back is one thing, doing it without LA support and in the face of fines for non-attendance is another.

I'd now be asking your HT what additional measures are being put in place to prevent this happeneing again (probably very little).

[vikingaero]

Mrs V. is a teacher(and I think I would make a good teacher). But one thing I couldn't do is deal with the parents.

Sometimes I pop down to drop things off at her primary school and the hordes of amoebas I walk past just boils my pish. From the entitled ones parking where they want, to the gobstes who think it's unfair that their child got detention, to the ones that think that their child was discriminated for not being picked to play in the football/netball team.

[oblio]

It can be annoying when little Johnny or Gemma goes home and tells stories about the nasty teacher saying/doing things that they don't like.

I taught one lad who went home and told his parents that I was both racist and sexist. What he didn't tell his parents was that I had caught him in lesson watching inappropriate stuff on his laptop when he was supposed to be taking notes and had therefore banned him from using it again! The lad was 17 from memory.

After an investigation the whole thing was dismissed out of hand and he lost what meagre friendship/support he had from the class as well, who then thought he was a compete and utter tool!

My colleague also had one girl around the same age who was chastised for not turning up/not handing work in etc so took to social media to have a rant. Her posts spoke of threats of acts of violence that she and her boyfriend were going to do to several teachers, including myself. I rang the Police and reported it. Fortunately we had the evidence from taking screen shots. The College then expelled her.

Thankfully these incidents are few and far between but it did reinforce my view on having membership of a Union or Professional body just in case things when tits up. We were also lucky that our College SLT were very supportive.

[TwistingMyMelon]

Sounds like win win all round

School behind you, police use common sense and the boys dont come back!!

Must have been stressful to say the lease

[Short Grain]

Good result OP. Glad it worked out. As has been said, see if a friend / colleague can check out FB and screengrab any posts that name or directly imply it's you, get the school to post the result of the police investigation on their page if they have one, ( I presume most schools do now ) Defamation of character maybe. Of course, you may want to let it go now and get back to doing what you love and that's your choice. I would be so pissed off I would want to show them up for what they are, chavvy little tts!

[Geekman]

Glad to hear you got a good result. Most people who don't work in education are shocked by these kinds of incidents, but the reality of the situation is that they happen every day, all over the world. I work for myself most of the time nowadays so don't have as much contact with this type of stuff as I used to, but in the past I greatly enjoyed watching the lying bd parents / teenagers squirm when I produced indisputable evidence that they were in fact lying bds.

[Type R Tom]

If it was me I'd want to go after the mum in anyway I could after the FB posts as there are bound to be "mummies" on there that will support / spread the lies. Also if you ever have a run in with another pupil you'll get "no smoke without fire" type comments.

Mums on FB are something I really despise and the way they all support each other, woe betide anyone that might have a slightly different opinion speaking out on a public forum. The echo chamber gives them power and reinforcement as people don't want to speak out

[poo at Paul's]

Good result, now make sure you get some friends and family to put the scumbags through the ringer via trial by social media, they tried it with you, after all, so make sure everyone knows what they're like.

[Hol]

In summary this is just another case of a parent who thinks that the state should be the only one teaching their kid right or wrong.

If it wasn’t for the morons who jump on their bandwagon every time one of these idiots makes up a story they wouldn’t get the bandwidth they do.