Police enquiry at home

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Funk

26,285 posts

209 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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S100HP said:
LosingGrip said:
Just had a friend sent to a job 40 miles away as they are the closest unit. Rest of the area are on their way to a domestic where the suspect always fights and is violent. If they need more back up we are the closest free unit…65 miles away.
It's borderline negligent tbh
And yet here they had something like 11 police cars and a helicoptor chasing a stolen VW transporter in this clip: https://youtu.be/UWC5qSGOIXk?t=116

I appreciate that the theif might be dangerous etc but that's an awful lot of resource in one place?

CypSIdders

854 posts

154 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Greendubber said:
The OP called and was told he'll be spoken to when the officer is back on duty, it really is as simple as that.
In a week, when the OP is "spoken to" and the OP says "Sorry, it's not convenient, come back in a week", I have no doubt the usual, supercilious, bks about failing the, imaginary, attitude test will be spouted!

Cat

3,021 posts

269 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Retro.74 said:
Maybe he couldn't ring back at the time, but if its nothing to worry about then a 30 second call before going off duty to offer some reassurance, or ask someone else too. Of course everybody is allowed days off, but most try tie up the simple loose ends when they are about to have 7 days off.
You are assuming that the officer had a contact number for the OP. If the officer did have a number and had called before going off duty no doubt there would be people moaning that it was unacceptable to phone when clearly the OP works nights and the officer shouldn't be disturbing his sleep by calling in the day.

Cat

Greendubber

13,215 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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monthou said:
It's not okay to ring someone's doorbell at 11.45 without good reason.
If it can wait a week it's not a good enough reason.

Unless the OP or his wife is a wrong un of course, in which case crack on.
The 'No big deal' posts from serving police here are pretty tone deaf imo.
Perhaps every poster should be hysterical about their wives opening doors to the police then?

Based on the context given by the OP it probably is nothing to worry about, apologies if you think relevant experience of the subject being discussed is coming across as tone death.

Greendubber

13,215 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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CypSIdders said:
Greendubber said:
The OP called and was told he'll be spoken to when the officer is back on duty, it really is as simple as that.
In a week, when the OP is "spoken to" and the OP says "Sorry, it's not convenient, come back in a week", I have no doubt the usual, supercilious, bks about failing the, imaginary, attitude test will be spouted!
I bet it won't be.

Greendubber

13,215 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Cat said:
Retro.74 said:
Maybe he couldn't ring back at the time, but if its nothing to worry about then a 30 second call before going off duty to offer some reassurance, or ask someone else too. Of course everybody is allowed days off, but most try tie up the simple loose ends when they are about to have 7 days off.
You are assuming that the officer had a contact number for the OP. If the officer did have a number and had called before going off duty no doubt there would be people moaning that it was unacceptable to phone when clearly the OP works nights and the officer shouldn't be disturbing his sleep by calling in the day.

Cat
Or if the officer had just simply posted a contact card there would probably be all manner of bks about the police sneaking up to doors at night and worrying people because they didn't knock on the door, with the possibility of some Ring doorbell camera thrown in for people to scrutinize in minute detail.

monthou

4,581 posts

50 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Greendubber said:
monthou said:
It's not okay to ring someone's doorbell at 11.45 without good reason.
If it can wait a week it's not a good enough reason.

Unless the OP or his wife is a wrong un of course, in which case crack on.
The 'No big deal' posts from serving police here are pretty tone deaf imo.
Perhaps every poster should be hysterical about their wives opening doors to the police then?

Based on the context given by the OP it probably is nothing to worry about, apologies if you think relevant experience of the subject being discussed is coming across as tone death.
It's not a real apology though, it's a patronising 'fk you'. As is your use of 'hysterical'.
Your experience isn't that of a woman hearing the doorbell at midnight, or of someone wondering why the police want to speak with him but being told to wait a week. So why is it relevant?

Retro.74

202 posts

23 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Cat said:
Retro.74 said:
Maybe he couldn't ring back at the time, but if its nothing to worry about then a 30 second call before going off duty to offer some reassurance, or ask someone else too. Of course everybody is allowed days off, but most try tie up the simple loose ends when they are about to have 7 days off.
You are assuming that the officer had a contact number for the OP. If the officer did have a number and had called before going off duty no doubt there would be people moaning that it was unacceptable to phone when clearly the OP works nights and the officer shouldn't be disturbing his sleep by calling in the day.

Cat
Hi Cat. I'm not assuming, pls see the below from OP, where firstly his number was passed, and secondly the officer confirmed he had his number and would ring him back in a week. I do assume that if OP didn't want a call he would turn phone to silent and await a voicemail or maybe let his wife answer his phone.

From OP
"however he would pass on my mobile number and get them to call me back. I still hadn’t heard anything by the time I finished work so decided to try and nip things in the bud and went to the Police station. The person on duty managed to radio through to the officer involved and then passed on to me they were just about to finish their shift but had my number"

m3jappa

6,431 posts

218 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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I wonder how the officer would react if the op was to knock on his door at 11:45 pm, just checking what the issue is? no biggie.


Greendubber

13,215 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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monthou said:
Greendubber said:
monthou said:
It's not okay to ring someone's doorbell at 11.45 without good reason.
If it can wait a week it's not a good enough reason.

Unless the OP or his wife is a wrong un of course, in which case crack on.
The 'No big deal' posts from serving police here are pretty tone deaf imo.
Perhaps every poster should be hysterical about their wives opening doors to the police then?

Based on the context given by the OP it probably is nothing to worry about, apologies if you think relevant experience of the subject being discussed is coming across as tone death.
It's not a real apology though, it's a patronising 'fk you'. As is your use of 'hysterical'.
Your experience isn't that of a woman hearing the doorbell at midnight, or of someone wondering why the police want to speak with him but being told to wait a week. So why is it relevant?
It's relevant because I've had to knock front doors at all manner of times for lots of different reasons. Rather than go into panic mode I'd be looking at it a little bit more sensibly, if it was urgent someone would have been tasked the following day.

We won't know until the OP updates us so until we have that update I'll hold off boarding the outrage train.

monthou

4,581 posts

50 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Greendubber said:
monthou said:
Greendubber said:
monthou said:
It's not okay to ring someone's doorbell at 11.45 without good reason.
If it can wait a week it's not a good enough reason.

Unless the OP or his wife is a wrong un of course, in which case crack on.
The 'No big deal' posts from serving police here are pretty tone deaf imo.
Perhaps every poster should be hysterical about their wives opening doors to the police then?

Based on the context given by the OP it probably is nothing to worry about, apologies if you think relevant experience of the subject being discussed is coming across as tone death.
It's not a real apology though, it's a patronising 'fk you'. As is your use of 'hysterical'.
Your experience isn't that of a woman hearing the doorbell at midnight, or of someone wondering why the police want to speak with him but being told to wait a week. So why is it relevant?
It's relevant because I've had to knock front doors at all manner of times for lots of different reasons. Rather than go into panic mode I'd be looking at it a little bit more sensibly, if it was urgent someone would have been tasked the following day.

We won't know until the OP updates us so until we have that update I'll hold off boarding the outrage train.
You're looking at this purely from your own p.o.v., not from that of the person / people behind the door.
If it's urgent a midnight call is justified.
If it can wait a week it isn't.
That's the point.
It isn't okay for anyone else, and it isn't okay just 'cos you're police.
Looking through the comments most if not all non-police seem to think it's odd / unjustified if it's non-urgent.
Maybe you could take that on board. That last bit was a joke btw.

vonhosen

40,234 posts

217 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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monthou said:
Greendubber said:
monthou said:
Greendubber said:
monthou said:
It's not okay to ring someone's doorbell at 11.45 without good reason.
If it can wait a week it's not a good enough reason.

Unless the OP or his wife is a wrong un of course, in which case crack on.
The 'No big deal' posts from serving police here are pretty tone deaf imo.
Perhaps every poster should be hysterical about their wives opening doors to the police then?

Based on the context given by the OP it probably is nothing to worry about, apologies if you think relevant experience of the subject being discussed is coming across as tone death.
It's not a real apology though, it's a patronising 'fk you'. As is your use of 'hysterical'.
Your experience isn't that of a woman hearing the doorbell at midnight, or of someone wondering why the police want to speak with him but being told to wait a week. So why is it relevant?
It's relevant because I've had to knock front doors at all manner of times for lots of different reasons. Rather than go into panic mode I'd be looking at it a little bit more sensibly, if it was urgent someone would have been tasked the following day.

We won't know until the OP updates us so until we have that update I'll hold off boarding the outrage train.
You're looking at this purely from your own p.o.v., not from that of the person / people behind the door.
If it's urgent a midnight call is justified.
If it can wait a week it isn't.
That's the point.
It isn't okay for anyone else, and it isn't okay just 'cos you're police.
Looking through the comments most if not all non-police seem to think it's odd / unjustified if it's non-urgent.
Maybe you could take that on board. That last bit was a joke btw.
What's special about midnight?
I'm rarely in bed before midnight.

Greendubber

13,215 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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monthou said:
Greendubber said:
monthou said:
Greendubber said:
monthou said:
It's not okay to ring someone's doorbell at 11.45 without good reason.
If it can wait a week it's not a good enough reason.

Unless the OP or his wife is a wrong un of course, in which case crack on.
The 'No big deal' posts from serving police here are pretty tone deaf imo.
Perhaps every poster should be hysterical about their wives opening doors to the police then?

Based on the context given by the OP it probably is nothing to worry about, apologies if you think relevant experience of the subject being discussed is coming across as tone death.
It's not a real apology though, it's a patronising 'fk you'. As is your use of 'hysterical'.
Your experience isn't that of a woman hearing the doorbell at midnight, or of someone wondering why the police want to speak with him but being told to wait a week. So why is it relevant?
It's relevant because I've had to knock front doors at all manner of times for lots of different reasons. Rather than go into panic mode I'd be looking at it a little bit more sensibly, if it was urgent someone would have been tasked the following day.

We won't know until the OP updates us so until we have that update I'll hold off boarding the outrage train.
You're looking at this purely from your own p.o.v., not from that of the person / people behind the door.
If it's urgent a midnight call is justified.
If it can wait a week it isn't.
That's the point.
It isn't okay for anyone else, and it isn't okay just 'cos you're police.
Looking through the comments most if not all non-police seem to think it's odd / unjustified if it's non-urgent.
Maybe you could take that on board. That last bit was a joke btw.
I can take it on board just fine but I know the constraints and lack of time officers have these days. It could be an on going enquiry and the Bobby found himself in the area so thought a quick door knock was in order. Lots of people are still awake at midnight, he didn't continue to knock the door and wake the road up, he left a card and went on his way. I'm sure he'd have much preferred to do it on a Wednesday afternoon but owing to the fact this was at night it would have been a response officer. Add a shift pattern, daily demand and ongoing work load into the mix and it could have been the only opportunity he had that week to try and quickly deal with whatever it is he had to do. So how about a few people look at it from his POV, after all it works both ways.

the mac

Original Poster:

99 posts

146 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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monthou said:
You're looking at this purely from your own p.o.v., not from that of the person / people behind the door.
If it's urgent a midnight call is justified.
If it can wait a week it isn't.
That's the point.
It isn't okay for anyone else, and it isn't okay just 'cos you're police.
Looking through the comments most if not all non-police seem to think it's odd / unjustified if it's non-urgent.
Maybe you could take that on board. That last bit was a joke btw.
Op here, so exactly this. For Greendubbers benefit my wife is not and was not “hysterical” I am not “panicking “ maybe just have a think about how things are on the other side! It’s “probably” nothing serious probably! Oh well that’s ok then! Meantime I’ll just hang on eh.

Greendubber

13,215 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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m3jappa said:
M.F.D said:
Police in Scotland don't go about on their own, so would have been 2 of them. With that mentality you bettet not answer the door to anyone then, just in-case....
It could have been two people pretending to be police. I would be concerned about answering it let alone my wife especially if she's on her own.

tbh its disgraceful, you have to your knowledge done nothing wrong yet the police are banging on your door at midnight and then will take a week to get back to you. Thats not acceptable imo and i would be equally as worried and also pissed off.
This is the kind of hysteria I am referring to...

Two murderous police officers knocking on random doors for their next victim?


CoolHands

18,653 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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To add to the majority of views I think it’s wrong, as pointed out if couldn’t have been that urgent if it can wait a week. And the shift patterns of the police isn’t the public’s problem. If midnight is ok, why not 2am? 3.30am? Etc

M.F.D

703 posts

101 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Greendubber said:
This is the kind of hysteria I am referring to...

Two murderous police officers knocking on random doors for their next victim?
It is utterly ridiculous isn't it. How many loan females have let workmen/sky engineers into the house without batting an eyelid I wonder.

Cat

3,021 posts

269 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Retro.74 said:
Hi Cat. I'm not assuming, pls see the below from OP, where firstly his number was passed, and secondly the officer confirmed he had his number and would ring him back in a week. I do assume that if OP didn't want a call he would turn phone to silent and await a voicemail or maybe let his wife answer his phone.

From OP
"however he would pass on my mobile number and get them to call me back. I still hadn’t heard anything by the time I finished work so decided to try and nip things in the bud and went to the Police station. The person on duty managed to radio through to the officer involved and then passed on to me they were just about to finish their shift but had my number"
Apologies, missed that the OP had left their number.

Cat

monthou

4,581 posts

50 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Greendubber said:
I can take it on board just fine but I know the constraints and lack of time officers have these days. It could be an on going enquiry and the Bobby found himself in the area so thought a quick door knock was in order. Lots of people are still awake at midnight, he didn't continue to knock the door and wake the road up, he left a card and went on his way. I'm sure he'd have much preferred to do it on a Wednesday afternoon but owing to the fact this was at night it would have been a response officer. Add a shift pattern, daily demand and ongoing work load into the mix and it could have been the only opportunity he had that week to try and quickly deal with whatever it is he had to do. So how about a few people look at it from his POV, after all it works both ways.
From his point of view...
Leave a card with a contact email. Or rather don't leave that part blank.
Leave a contact phone number. Or rather...
Failing the above...when you know the guy has been to the police station to pass his number on because he's concerned give him a call, drop him an email or ask a colleague to follow up. Even if it takes 5 minutes of your own time.
Or don't ring a bell at midnight unless it's urgent.
If I sound unsympathetic I apologise, in the same spirit as your earlier apologies.


Greendubber

13,215 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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M.F.D said:
Greendubber said:
This is the kind of hysteria I am referring to...

Two murderous police officers knocking on random doors for their next victim?
It is utterly ridiculous isn't it. How many loan females have let workmen/sky engineers into the house without batting an eyelid I wonder.
I wonder if that particular poster doesn't allow his wife to the Drs, after all Shipman and all that.