Police and Security "Auditers"

Police and Security "Auditers"

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blank

3,458 posts

188 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Not breaking any laws but being a massive pain in the arse and potentially damaging lots of businesses.

It's the drone that's the big issue. For a business with (commercially) sensitive things going on it's relatively easy to secure your site from people and keep things so they're not visible from public footpaths, roads etc. But when some dick(s) with a drone can merrily fly around the site with impunity it can cause big problems.

eldar

21,767 posts

196 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Legal. Just have some copywriteable music playing in the background,and the videos are useless.

Or just keep saying can you please put your cock away now.

Elysium

13,833 posts

187 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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blank said:
The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Not breaking any laws but being a massive pain in the arse and potentially damaging lots of businesses.

It's the drone that's the big issue. For a business with (commercially) sensitive things going on it's relatively easy to secure your site from people and keep things so they're not visible from public footpaths, roads etc. But when some dick(s) with a drone can merrily fly around the site with impunity it can cause big problems.
Then the problem is the law. Not the person exercising his or her rights in compliance with it.

Unreal

3,415 posts

25 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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blank said:
The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Not breaking any laws but being a massive pain in the arse and potentially damaging lots of businesses.

It's the drone that's the big issue. For a business with (commercially) sensitive things going on it's relatively easy to secure your site from people and keep things so they're not visible from public footpaths, roads etc. But when some dick(s) with a drone can merrily fly around the site with impunity it can cause big problems.
I'll start sympathising with businesses when my right to privacy in my garden is equally protected. I really struggle to see what public interest exists in allowing people to fly over any private property. Once you leave your front door fair enough, but people should be able to do what they want in their back gardens or yards without the concern of being overlooked by some weirdo with a drone. fk off up on the hills or down on the coast if you want to fly the thing.

Roy the Boy

462 posts

221 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Did he not mention something like 'don't publish that - GDPR' or something when they took pictures of him? If so, shouldn't the same apply to him when putting the videos on Youtube?

Edited by Roy the Boy on Saturday 14th October 15:46

Bigends

5,419 posts

128 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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Roy the Boy said:
The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Did he not mention something like 'don't publish that - GDPR' or something when they took pictures of him? If so, shouldn't the same apply to him when putting the videos on Yi
outube?
He's a private individual - GDPR relates to businesses and organisations

Colonel Cupcake

1,079 posts

45 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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eldar said:
The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Legal. Just have some copywriteable music playing in the background,and the videos are useless.

Or just keep saying can you please put your cock away now.
The PRS would be on your back straight away for that.

eldar

21,767 posts

196 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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Colonel Cupcake said:
eldar said:
The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Legal. Just have some copywriteable music playing in the background,and the videos are useless.

Or just keep saying can you please put your cock away now.
The PRS would be on your back straight away for that.
Exactly. Will stop them monetising the video.

Colonel Cupcake

1,079 posts

45 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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eldar said:
Colonel Cupcake said:
eldar said:
The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Legal. Just have some copywriteable music playing in the background,and the videos are useless.

Or just keep saying can you please put your cock away now.
The PRS would be on your back straight away for that.
Exactly. Will stop them monetising the video.
No, the auditor would be recording YOU playing copyrighted music in public.

eldar

21,767 posts

196 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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Colonel Cupcake said:
eldar said:
Colonel Cupcake said:
eldar said:
The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Legal. Just have some copywriteable music playing in the background,and the videos are useless.

Or just keep saying can you please put your cock away now.
The PRS would be on your back straight away for that.
Exactly. Will stop them monetising the video.
No, the auditor would be recording YOU playing copyrighted music in public.
Has that ever happened? YouTube allowing copyrighted music because someone filmed someone else playing that music for their own private use? Sounds a brilliant loophole.

The Road Crew

4,240 posts

160 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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blank said:
The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Not breaking any laws but being a massive pain in the arse and potentially damaging lots of businesses.

It's the drone that's the big issue. For a business with (commercially) sensitive things going on it's relatively easy to secure your site from people and keep things so they're not visible from public footpaths, roads etc. But when some dick(s) with a drone can merrily fly around the site with impunity it can cause big problems.
Oh I don't disagree, he's a pain the ass for sure. Legally he's good to go though isn't he?
Unless the law is changed then a business with sensitive stuff needs to do it inside.
My work has some fairly sensitive/secret ish stuff about the place, and for this exact reason it's all kept under cover at all times.

Roy the Boy

462 posts

221 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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Bigends said:
He's a private individual - GDPR relates to businesses and organisations
Doesn't publishing on Youtube and earning money from it make him a business?

Flumpo

3,750 posts

73 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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Roy the Boy said:
Bigends said:
He's a private individual - GDPR relates to businesses and organisations
Doesn't publishing on Youtube and earning money from it make him a business?
He openly boasts about earning 6 figures a year from his YouTube. Doesn’t he say he’s a ‘journalist’ when challenged historically on that front, guessing that’s what his tax return says.

If you go back several pages I think it’s been discussed at length if GDPR applies to him. Some say yes, some say no, no one really knows, but it doesn’t matter anyway as YouTube have their own rules as it’s their platform.

If someone puts a video of you up, it doesn’t matter if it’s public or not, you can ask complain to YouTube and your face will be blurred or the video has to be taken down.

Some of his videos the faces are blurred and in that big brother one he seems reluctant to identify himself and suggests it’s because they could get his video taken down before he gets his views and payed.

Edited by Flumpo on Saturday 14th October 15:57

blank

3,458 posts

188 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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The Road Crew said:
Oh I don't disagree, he's a pain the ass for sure. Legally he's good to go though isn't he?
Unless the law is changed then a business with sensitive stuff needs to do it inside.
My work has some fairly sensitive/secret ish stuff about the place, and for this exact reason it's all kept under cover at all times.
Easier said than done in my industry! (automotive/transport)

Big Rig

8,855 posts

187 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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eldar said:
Colonel Cupcake said:
eldar said:
Colonel Cupcake said:
eldar said:
The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?

If these places just ignored him, and didn't acost him on public streets etc then he'd just go away as his channel would get no views!
Legal. Just have some copywriteable music playing in the background,and the videos are useless.

Or just keep saying can you please put your cock away now.
The PRS would be on your back straight away for that.
Exactly. Will stop them monetising the video.
No, the auditor would be recording YOU playing copyrighted music in public.
Has that ever happened? YouTube allowing copyrighted music because someone filmed someone else playing that music for their own private use? Sounds a brilliant loophole.
Yes. Auditing Britain was fairly recently outisde a police station filming and one of the young officers queuing to get in started plauying music really loudly from his car. The Auditor just laughed and told him that won't work.

Mr Miata

955 posts

50 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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blank said:
Not breaking any laws but being a massive pain in the arse and potentially damaging lots of businesses.

It's the drone that's the big issue. For a business with (commercially) sensitive things going on it's relatively easy to secure your site from people and keep things so they're not visible from public footpaths, roads etc. But when some dick(s) with a drone can merrily fly around the site with impunity it can cause big problems.
Is it any different to going on Google Maps and looking at the satellite view of your business?

There’s no ownership of the airspace above, anyone in an aircraft can fly over if they wish. Are Jet2 and Ryanair going to stop flying over my house? No.

But to be honest, nobody will be interested in any of our houses, there’s nothing worth seeing.


Edited by Mr Miata on Sunday 15th October 19:45

blank

3,458 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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Mr Miata said:
blank said:
Not breaking any laws but being a massive pain in the arse and potentially damaging lots of businesses.

It's the drone that's the big issue. For a business with (commercially) sensitive things going on it's relatively easy to secure your site from people and keep things so they're not visible from public footpaths, roads etc. But when some dick(s) with a drone can merrily fly around the site with impunity it can cause big problems.
Is it any different to going on Google Maps and looking at the satellite view of your business?

There’s no ownership of the airspace above, anyone in an aircraft can fly over if they wish. Are Jet2 and Ryanair going to stop flying over my house? No.

But to be honest, nobody will be interested in any of our houses, there’s nothing worth seeing.


Edited by Mr Miata on Sunday 15th October 19:45
It's a completely different level of detail to Google maps or looking out of a commercial aircraft. When we were "audited" the drone got very low (barely above head height it would seem) so far more intrusive than satellite imagery!

pavarotti1980

4,900 posts

84 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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Bigends said:
He's a private individual - GDPR relates to businesses and organisations
A private individual making money on YouTube? Money that is declarable income and subject to tax....I would say that transcends into being a business.

What The Deuces

2,780 posts

24 months

Monday 16th October 2023
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The Road Crew said:
Not breaking the law by filming in public hough it's he?
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Yes he is, if he's using the film for publishing on his monetised channel then yes it breaks the law unless he's asked permission and taken all reasonable steps to let data subjects know they are going to be recorded. Covered in detail previousl with links to legislation.

What The Deuces

2,780 posts

24 months

Monday 16th October 2023
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Bigends said:
He's a private individual - GDPR relates to businesses and organisations
He's not though, he's monetising his videos, he's a business, and subject to GDPR laws himself, which he wantonly breaks every video.