Police and Security "Auditers"

[Ouroboros]

Donbot said:

Focus pocus is a good one, but I think if you understand the backstory of the police you can understand why they deal with them. They, the auditors are not a true representation of the public.

[105.4]

I’ve watched a couple of these type of videos and frankly, they always come across as tts.

There was one video of these idiots successfully getting into HMP Hatfield, (an open prison).

All that would have achieved was the place getting locked down, workshops getting closed, and the prisoners getting put behind their doors, (locked in their cells during the middle of the working day).

There would have been a lot of pissed off lads at that point. Maybe the best thing to have done would have been for the Screws to the let the lads eject these idiot ‘auditors’ from the prison grounds, but of course legally they can’t do that, (unfortunately !)

[Donbot]

Ouroboros said:

Donbot said:

Focus pocus is a good one, but I think if you understand the backstory of the police you can understand why they deal with them. They, the auditors are not a true representation of the public.

It doesn't excuse unprofessional behaviour.

I've only watched a handful of AB's videos, but they do seem to confirm my view that the police attract the type of person with the 'I'm right, your wrong, do as you are told' attitude, based on knowing a couple of them personally.

[Colonel Cupcake]

Ouroboros said:

Pelicula said:

A.B or Auditing Britain had a really stand out police interaction - 'The Four Numpeteers of Uxbridge' or something - a spontaneous interaction which does not do the police any favours....it is shocking, cringeworthy and unbelievable in equal measure.
Watch this then, and tell us all why the behavior of these 'officers' (yes, really, they are...) should not be highlighted.

AB goes round with full face mask, covered up, Taking photos, I mean what should the police do? he came across as pretty evasive.

They should really use section 50 , surprised they don't.

A few film outside courts which is actually illegal. They also film on private land, when again not supposed to.

Are you sure about that? Reporters are always filming outside court during and after newsworthy cases.

Can you point me to that actual law that forbids it?

As far as AB goes, it's not illegal to cover your face up fully and it is not illegal to take photos from publically accessible places. What the police should do is ignore them and then there will be no worthwhile footage to put up.

[pavarotti1980]

Donbot said:

The police doing what they are supposed to be doing wouldn't be ironic.

Saying no comment to someone is what the police should be doing?

You have spectacularly missed the point I was making. These cock sockets who are no strangers to police interaction because of their criminality will regularly trott out no comment when asked questions so it would be nice to turn it round. Mind they can come back with the utterly fking pathetic response of shouting "sausage" at coppers. I mean what the actual fk are they on about.

Work shy wasters on benefits looking for income from YouTube from other gullible unwashed cretins blowing smoke up their arse believing they are doing something good for society. Maybe if they endeavoured to use as much energy with a proper job this country wouldn't have as many tts infesting everyday life

[ruggedscotty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBaq8sJAYO4&ab...


this could have been so easily addressed. thing is if he tried this in many other countries he would be dealt with in a more suitable manner.
and hopefully think twice before pulling a pointless stunt like it again....

Also youtube should be taken to task. providing an outlet that monetarises it could be seen as encouragement.


sadly they walk amoungst us

[Ouroboros]

Colonel Cupcake said:

Are you sure about that? Reporters are always filming outside court during and after newsworthy cases.

court, includes the court boundaries, nothing stopping you from filming from public land, but vestibules are court land, and still have restrictions, they should also check there isn't a suppression order in place, which they never do.

[Charlie1986]

We had them at Amazon few months back - managed to get in the site. As it was private land Amazon went down the leagal route to have the videos removed and placed a banning order on them coming on to sites

[Ouroboros]

pavarotti1980 said:

. Maybe if they endeavoured to use as much energy with a proper job this country wouldn't have as many tts infesting everyday life

yes the majority are on benefits, anti government, yet happy to be paid by them, always say i pay your tax, when they admit they don't work. I've reported a few as they are making quite a lot of this and can't imagine they fully declare to DWP.

[Donbot]

pavarotti1980 said:

Donbot said:

The police doing what they are supposed to be doing wouldn't be ironic.

Saying no comment to someone is what the police should be doing?

You have spectacularly missed the point I was making. These cock sockets who are no strangers to police interaction because of their criminality will regularly trott out no comment when asked questions so it would be nice to turn it round. Mind they can come back with the utterly fking pathetic response of shouting "sausage" at coppers. I mean what the actual fk are they on about.

Work shy wasters on benefits looking for income from YouTube from other gullible unwashed cretins blowing smoke up their arse believing they are doing something good for society. Maybe if they endeavoured to use as much energy with a proper job this country wouldn't have as many tts infesting everyday life

Saying 'no comment' would be far more professional than what you have just said! Which is pretty much what some of those coppers are doing when interacting with these people.

[Fusion777]

Filming in public may be legal, but filming police station fences, security gates, cameras, officers coming and going without blurring number plates, entry points etc could easily come under “hostile reconnaissance”, and therefore no-one should be shocked when anyone doing the above is challenged on it.

There’s also a bit of a difference between taking a photo that might have MI6 HQ in the background and slinking around police station car parks filming intercoms and barrier gates up close.

[jm8403]

Fusion777 said:

Filming in public may be legal, but filming police station fences, security gates, cameras, officers coming and going without blurring number plates, entry points etc could easily come under “hostile reconnaissance”, and therefore no-one should be shocked when anyone doing the above is challenged on it.

There’s also a bit of a difference between taking a photo that might have MI6 HQ in the background and slinking around police station car parks filming intercoms and barrier gates up close.

This. But for some reason they think they should ignore it because 'photography is not a crime', total, utter, imbeciles.

[Donbot]

jm8403 said:

This. But for some reason they think they should ignore it because 'photography is not a crime', total, utter, imbeciles.

I don't see anyone saying they should just ignore it.

[jm8403]

Donbot said:

I don't see anyone saying they should just ignore it.

They act like the police should. They always say stuff like: 'stop infringing on my rights, do something better with your time' to the police.

[Donbot]

jm8403 said:

Donbot said:

I don't see anyone saying they should just ignore it.

They act like the police should. They always say stuff like: 'stop infringing on my rights, do something better with your time' to the police.

The police shouldn't act like how they act. That should be obvious.

[jm8403]

Donbot said:

The police shouldn't act like how they act. That should be obvious.

What are you suggesting they act like? You're not being very clear with what is obvious and what your view is.

The vast majority i've seen have been professional, with some exceptions, unfortunately.

[Mikebentley]

Auditors? What a nonsense self given title. People at Police stations and on Prison Service property etc have a right to privacy. They give that right away when they agree to certain terms and conditions ie visiting a relative in prison or working on a site for obvious security reasons. When I worked at a Category A prison we were mindful of being followed or filmed entering or exiting work and not travelling in uniform.

I was once followed by 2 Middle Eastern looking men for about 10 miles having been stupid enough to remove my jacket before getting in the car revealing my uniform. I carried out evasive manoeuvres like going round traffic islands several times but they continued to follow. At the time we were holding several high profile Al Queda terrorists amongst others. I called the Police Liason team and they were stopped by Police a mile from the Prison. I know of people working on serious trials who have had their vehicle registration address details changed to care of DVLA.

This is why these numpties shouldn’t be allowed to film on land such as Police Stations and Prisons. Absolute bellends of the highest order.

[Colonel Cupcake]

Fusion777 said:

Filming in public may be legal, but filming police station fences, security gates, cameras, officers coming and going without blurring number plates, entry points etc could easily come under “hostile reconnaissance”, and therefore no-one should be shocked when anyone doing the above is challenged on it.

There’s also a bit of a difference between taking a photo that might have MI6 HQ in the background and slinking around police station car parks filming intercoms and barrier gates up close.

I cannot see a problem with anyone filming any of that. From public land, none of that is illegal. The way some police officers talk and act when being filmed makes me wonder what they are like off camera. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

[Donbot]

jm8403 said:

Donbot said:

The police shouldn't act like how they act. That should be obvious.

What are you suggesting they act like? You're not being very clear with what is obvious and what your view is.

The vast majority i've seen have been professional, with some exceptions, unfortunately.

They shouldn't threaten the public with made up BS because they don't like what they are doing.

They should also treat the public with respect. If many of the coppers in his videos worked in a shop they would be quickly fired. Just 'coz you think someones a tt doesn't mean you don't need to be polite to them.

[Donbot]

Mikebentley said:

Auditors? What a nonsense self given title. People at Police stations and on Prison Service property etc have a right to privacy. They give that right away when they agree to certain terms and conditions ie visiting a relative in prison or working on a site for obvious security reasons. When I worked at a Category A prison we were mindful of being followed or filmed entering or exiting work and not travelling in uniform.

I was once followed by 2 Middle Eastern looking men for about 10 miles having been stupid enough to remove my jacket before getting in the car revealing my uniform. I carried out evasive manoeuvres like going round traffic islands several times but they continued to follow. At the time we were holding several high profile Al Queda terrorists amongst others. I called the Police Liason team and they were stopped by Police a mile from the Prison. I know of people working on serious trials who have had their vehicle registration address details changed to care of DVLA.

This is why these numpties shouldn’t be allowed to film on land such as Police Stations and Prisons. Absolute bellends of the highest order.

Being followed in your car is different to someone filming your place of work.

I've seen the BBC film all sorts. I'm pretty sure the police wouldn't threaten them with section 43 for filming in public.