Anyone got into a fight?
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ZedLeg said:
Being hit with a bat sucks. I got hit in the chest once and broke three ribs, they've never been right since.
My sisters friend hit a chap with a baseball bat - the bloke died and her friend went to prison for a good few years - he did not mean to kill him but when things get violent it is a risk you take.davek_964 said:
I had a good friend - regular at the gym, and quite "built".
Very nice friendly guy - would never start anything - but as several have mentioned on here, he would stand up for himself if provoked and would certainly step in if a scenario warranted it (girls being beaten up etc).
He is now dead. Exact details were never determined - it was a night when England were playing a few years ago (Euros I think) and it happened outside a pub. It seems clear that he was involved with one person at a pub, and said person then found him at another pub - but brought several mates. It seems that in the ensuing fight he hit his head (or his head was hit). He was in a coma for several days, and then died.
Exactly what happened isn't known, and - after investigation - nobody was actually charged.
Yes this is me I’ve never been able to not step in but once it’s over my anger just goes. I’m very rarely violent now but I’ve had this since I was 16 and channelled my aggression through sport and martial arts. But I’ve been very lucky I haven’t seriously hurt someone when I was younger and reckless as can be seen above. I’m now too old and I had a better control of my temper when I was younger and I’m now diagnosed I’m going to be one of the lucky ones. Anyone else other than me would have been killed last September. I knew it after the event. I got lucky it wasn’t pretty. Other’s had to get involved to save me including strangers and my beloved who’s a 5ft2 saint. That was that for me. Police arrived as the vast majority of what I later learned where all members of a local “family” from a very unpleasant estate as they were well known. I refused an ambulance and left the scene after refusing to press charges. I changed my mind on the Monday as I found myself walking towards the estate so I phoned the police and gave a statement to response. They took one look at my file and did nothing. No witness would come forward even after one of those serious assault signs was put up. I’ve been back to see the two fishermen who stepped in and there firm mates now but I can’t go back there ever again. Very nice friendly guy - would never start anything - but as several have mentioned on here, he would stand up for himself if provoked and would certainly step in if a scenario warranted it (girls being beaten up etc).
He is now dead. Exact details were never determined - it was a night when England were playing a few years ago (Euros I think) and it happened outside a pub. It seems clear that he was involved with one person at a pub, and said person then found him at another pub - but brought several mates. It seems that in the ensuing fight he hit his head (or his head was hit). He was in a coma for several days, and then died.
Exactly what happened isn't known, and - after investigation - nobody was actually charged.
I just went round to my sisters to get stitched up, she’s an intensive care nurse and it was covid. She went into nursing as she was home when I cut my hand off.
My other half was furious because she was going to miss the Radencanu final. It was that day. I’d just taken my nephew to first game at old Trafford to see Ronaldo make his e turn and it was a beautiful summers.
But reread the above internet hard men, I notice they’re absent from this thread. How sanitised to does someone have to become to someone’s behaviour to take the above in her stride? She had one of my female attackers by the hair and my dogs have had anxiety ever since I had to stop. I’d have lost everyone and everything. I was that close.
As I’ve said I’m researching and writing about this as I’ve a lot of evidence and there’s good research linking my condition to physical trauma and therefore PTSD. Could be a game changer for soldiers and other people like me.
If anyone feels in anyway similar or has negative thoughts in their head get to the GP.
I’ve taught myself to get very loud and cry if I know the person I’m infront of can’t apologise for what they’ve done as I can end most confrontations like that and they think f
k that I’m outta here. And they’ve had a fking good lesson. If not while I’m crying I just say I’m sorry and let the beast go. It’s normally over in seconds if it’s just one person. The above taught me Father Time is no match for todays increasingly violent society thanks god I’ve got help. I’ll let you all know when the books out. It’s flying out of me.
Gone a bit AMG said:
The above taught me Father Time is no match for todays increasingly violent society thanks god I’ve got help. I’ll let you all know when the books out. It’s flying out of me.
I'd love to have a read of your book when it's out. Very pleased you're getting to grips with your demons. Best of luck!Gone a bit AMG said:
davek_964 said:
I had a good friend - regular at the gym, and quite "built".
Very nice friendly guy - would never start anything - but as several have mentioned on here, he would stand up for himself if provoked and would certainly step in if a scenario warranted it (girls being beaten up etc).
He is now dead. Exact details were never determined - it was a night when England were playing a few years ago (Euros I think) and it happened outside a pub. It seems clear that he was involved with one person at a pub, and said person then found him at another pub - but brought several mates. It seems that in the ensuing fight he hit his head (or his head was hit). He was in a coma for several days, and then died.
Exactly what happened isn't known, and - after investigation - nobody was actually charged.
Yes this is me I’ve never been able to not step in but once it’s over my anger just goes. I’m very rarely violent now but I’ve had this since I was 16 and channelled my aggression through sport and martial arts. But I’ve been very lucky I haven’t seriously hurt someone when I was younger and reckless as can be seen above. I’m now too old and I had a better control of my temper when I was younger and I’m now diagnosed I’m going to be one of the lucky ones. Anyone else other than me would have been killed last September. I knew it after the event. I got lucky it wasn’t pretty. Other’s had to get involved to save me including strangers and my beloved who’s a 5ft2 saint. That was that for me. Police arrived as the vast majority of what I later learned where all members of a local “family” from a very unpleasant estate as they were well known. I refused an ambulance and left the scene after refusing to press charges. I changed my mind on the Monday as I found myself walking towards the estate so I phoned the police and gave a statement to response. They took one look at my file and did nothing. No witness would come forward even after one of those serious assault signs was put up. I’ve been back to see the two fishermen who stepped in and there firm mates now but I can’t go back there ever again. Very nice friendly guy - would never start anything - but as several have mentioned on here, he would stand up for himself if provoked and would certainly step in if a scenario warranted it (girls being beaten up etc).
He is now dead. Exact details were never determined - it was a night when England were playing a few years ago (Euros I think) and it happened outside a pub. It seems clear that he was involved with one person at a pub, and said person then found him at another pub - but brought several mates. It seems that in the ensuing fight he hit his head (or his head was hit). He was in a coma for several days, and then died.
Exactly what happened isn't known, and - after investigation - nobody was actually charged.
I just went round to my sisters to get stitched up, she’s an intensive care nurse and it was covid. She went into nursing as she was home when I cut my hand off.
My other half was furious because she was going to miss the Radencanu final. It was that day. I’d just taken my nephew to first game at old Trafford to see Ronaldo make his e turn and it was a beautiful summers.
But reread the above internet hard men, I notice they’re absent from this thread. How sanitised to does someone have to become to someone’s behaviour to take the above in her stride? She had one of my female attackers by the hair and my dogs have had anxiety ever since I had to stop. I’d have lost everyone and everything. I was that close.
As I’ve said I’m researching and writing about this as I’ve a lot of evidence and there’s good research linking my condition to physical trauma and therefore PTSD. Could be a game changer for soldiers and other people like me.
If anyone feels in anyway similar or has negative thoughts in their head get to the GP.
I’ve taught myself to get very loud and cry if I know the person I’m infront of can’t apologise for what they’ve done as I can end most confrontations like that and they think f
k that I’m outta here. And they’ve had a fking good lesson. If not while I’m crying I just say I’m sorry and let the beast go. It’s normally over in seconds if it’s just one person. The above taught me Father Time is no match for todays increasingly violent society thanks god I’ve got help. I’ll let you all know when the books out. It’s flying out of me.
Unreal said:
Gone a bit AMG said:
davek_964 said:
I had a good friend - regular at the gym, and quite "built".
Very nice friendly guy - would never start anything - but as several have mentioned on here, he would stand up for himself if provoked and would certainly step in if a scenario warranted it (girls being beaten up etc).
He is now dead. Exact details were never determined - it was a night when England were playing a few years ago (Euros I think) and it happened outside a pub. It seems clear that he was involved with one person at a pub, and said person then found him at another pub - but brought several mates. It seems that in the ensuing fight he hit his head (or his head was hit). He was in a coma for several days, and then died.
Exactly what happened isn't known, and - after investigation - nobody was actually charged.
Yes this is me I’ve never been able to not step in but once it’s over my anger just goes. I’m very rarely violent now but I’ve had this since I was 16 and channelled my aggression through sport and martial arts. But I’ve been very lucky I haven’t seriously hurt someone when I was younger and reckless as can be seen above. I’m now too old and I had a better control of my temper when I was younger and I’m now diagnosed I’m going to be one of the lucky ones. Anyone else other than me would have been killed last September. I knew it after the event. I got lucky it wasn’t pretty. Other’s had to get involved to save me including strangers and my beloved who’s a 5ft2 saint. That was that for me. Police arrived as the vast majority of what I later learned where all members of a local “family” from a very unpleasant estate as they were well known. I refused an ambulance and left the scene after refusing to press charges. I changed my mind on the Monday as I found myself walking towards the estate so I phoned the police and gave a statement to response. They took one look at my file and did nothing. No witness would come forward even after one of those serious assault signs was put up. I’ve been back to see the two fishermen who stepped in and there firm mates now but I can’t go back there ever again. Very nice friendly guy - would never start anything - but as several have mentioned on here, he would stand up for himself if provoked and would certainly step in if a scenario warranted it (girls being beaten up etc).
He is now dead. Exact details were never determined - it was a night when England were playing a few years ago (Euros I think) and it happened outside a pub. It seems clear that he was involved with one person at a pub, and said person then found him at another pub - but brought several mates. It seems that in the ensuing fight he hit his head (or his head was hit). He was in a coma for several days, and then died.
Exactly what happened isn't known, and - after investigation - nobody was actually charged.
I just went round to my sisters to get stitched up, she’s an intensive care nurse and it was covid. She went into nursing as she was home when I cut my hand off.
My other half was furious because she was going to miss the Radencanu final. It was that day. I’d just taken my nephew to first game at old Trafford to see Ronaldo make his e turn and it was a beautiful summers.
But reread the above internet hard men, I notice they’re absent from this thread. How sanitised to does someone have to become to someone’s behaviour to take the above in her stride? She had one of my female attackers by the hair and my dogs have had anxiety ever since I had to stop. I’d have lost everyone and everything. I was that close.
As I’ve said I’m researching and writing about this as I’ve a lot of evidence and there’s good research linking my condition to physical trauma and therefore PTSD. Could be a game changer for soldiers and other people like me.
If anyone feels in anyway similar or has negative thoughts in their head get to the GP.
I’ve taught myself to get very loud and cry if I know the person I’m infront of can’t apologise for what they’ve done as I can end most confrontations like that and they think f
k that I’m outta here. And they’ve had a fking good lesson. If not while I’m crying I just say I’m sorry and let the beast go. It’s normally over in seconds if it’s just one person. The above taught me Father Time is no match for todays increasingly violent society thanks god I’ve got help. I’ll let you all know when the books out. It’s flying out of me.
Gone a bit AMG said:
Sometimes. But the vast majority of the time no. But pretty much I’ve taken every drug known to man. I appreciate the question as that is the go to usually but as I said to my GP this week after he’d learnt about this we now no why I’m different. He argued with me as my condition doesn’t usually manifest until you’re in your 30’s but I know a lot more about my condition than he does. As was evident with that assumption.
You do sound as if you are looking at this latest diagnosis as the sole reason behind your issues. That's understandable but I'd suggest that you keep an open mind. I asked my question for two reasons. One, that there is a massive amount of evidence associating violent behaviour with drink/drugs and two, we are still learning about the long term effects of drug use on mental health.Unreal said:
You do sound as if you are looking at this latest diagnosis as the sole reason behind your issues. That's understandable but I'd suggest that you keep an open mind. I asked my question for two reasons. One, that there is a massive amount of evidence associating violent behaviour with drink/drugs and two, we are still learning about the long term effects of drug use on mental health.
I totally understand but I am going to state I know more about this than you giving I’m writing a book on it. I lost my father as he was misdiagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome and he died of pancreatic days after they told him what he had. He spent months in agony. I’d never touched a drink or a drug at 16 years old when we think this started as I broke a class mates nose because he’d pushed me down the stairs on the whilst still had cast on my arm. I also went from timid to fearless on the rugby pitch. I didn’t start using drugs until after I stopped playing rugby, be less quick to demonise drug users. I was well into my twenties before I even tried a drug so I’m not trying to avoid facing into my issues I’m facing into them just fine thanks but being I appreciate this is the defau,y position for, NHS for any heavy drinker.
Please explain having never touched a drug or had a fight in my life six months after nearly slicing off my hand I broke a mates nose and became the best rugby player in my school. Because only Pheochromocytoma can do that. I’ve been working on a diagnosis for 6 months. I’ve got it. Don’t go all PH on me please.
Staggering back from a works xmas do, i was approached by some crackhead who tried to mug me for my phone. My mistake of course, for wobbling all over place with a phone in my hand arranging where my daughter could pick me up.
Being very drunk, i didn't really think about what i was doing and quite literally knocked his teeth out. Cut my hand to pieces on them.
Pretty sure he had a knife too (or something in his hand anyway), so almost certainly i wouldn't have reacted that way sober.
Being very drunk, i didn't really think about what i was doing and quite literally knocked his teeth out. Cut my hand to pieces on them.
Pretty sure he had a knife too (or something in his hand anyway), so almost certainly i wouldn't have reacted that way sober.
littlebasher said:
Staggering back from a works xmas do, i was approached by some crackhead who tried to mug me for my phone. My mistake of course, for wobbling all over place with a phone in my hand arranging where my daughter could pick me up.
Being very drunk, i didn't really think about what i was doing and quite literally knocked his teeth out. Cut my hand to pieces on them.
Pretty sure he had a knife too (or something in his hand anyway), so almost certainly i wouldn't have reacted that way sober.
Username checks outBeing very drunk, i didn't really think about what i was doing and quite literally knocked his teeth out. Cut my hand to pieces on them.
Pretty sure he had a knife too (or something in his hand anyway), so almost certainly i wouldn't have reacted that way sober.
littlebasher said:
Pretty sure he had a knife too (or something in his hand anyway), so almost certainly i wouldn't have reacted that way sober.
I've been threatened with knives just once in my life. I'd like to say that I kicked ass and left them scattered around me, but unfortunately I ended up quite badly beaten and it really knocked my confidence. I think I was more indignant than fighty. I was a teenager, a gang tried to mug me, they asked me to hand over my wallet and Walkman (it was the 90s), at knife point. I refused, which I remember they couldn't quite understand. One of them asked why I wasn't handing over the loot, to which I responded "because it's mine". I sort of missed the point of what an armed mugging is there.
Obviously I got beaten up (fortunately not stabbed), quite badly, but as they were about to leave I decided to give clear recollections of what I'd been doing to each of their mothers in the previous weeks, and insulted their ability to punch. I'd like to think that stung their ears much more than my face was hurting. The weird thing is I don't think I tried to hit back even once, I was more focused on using my words to hurt them which, in retrospect, is a terrible strategy.
It's erm... Surprising how people react when push comes to shove.
ZedLeg said:
TBH, if you're jumped by a group the best bet is to cover up and try to ride it out. Unless you're very good at fighting yourself, you'll get more hurt trying to get off the ground.
I got the st kicked out of me in unprovoked attacks by groups of people more than once in my teens, once for being from a different school to them, , and once for liking the wrong music. Fractured eye socket from the first one. I went from being a timid kid scared of everything, to throwing the first punch rather than waiting to get hurt.I was playing for a pub football team 6 years later and recognised one of the lads that had attacked me first time round who was playing for the opposition. I got sent off for headbutting him. Claret everywhere, very satisfying, justice done.
The rest of my team were stunned as obviously they didn't know the history and I'd never even been booked before that.
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