What's the Right Thing?

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21TonyK

11,548 posts

210 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Why were you worried about relaxing your legs?

Pica-Pica

13,847 posts

85 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Sixsixtysix said:
Would you say the same thing if the patient was female and the nurses all male?
Male mid-wives and male gynaecologists and obstetricians exist.

Antony Moxey

8,093 posts

220 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Ha, wait until you have to have a colonoscopy and all you wear is one of those open at the back gowns. Lying sideways on the bed, half a dozen male and female staff concentrating on your hoop while the doc lubes up and cheerfully announces he’s going to have quick mooch around with his fingers (plural) first. It’s a proper eye opener (!) to be told that the camera’s about a metre in - a fking metre!!! - and it’s OK to fart if you need to.

I’m so looking forward to that envelope dropping through the letter box for a repeat poo test in two years’ time…!

Art Keller

779 posts

80 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Do you live on a council estate? .........Can you put on a compo face ? wink

Art Keller

779 posts

80 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Antony Moxey said:
Ha, wait until you have to have a colonoscopy and all you wear is one of those open at the back gowns. Lying sideways on the bed, half a dozen male and female staff concentrating on your hoop while the doc lubes up and cheerfully announces he’s going to have quick mooch around with his fingers (plural) first. It’s a proper eye opener (!) to be told that the camera’s about a metre in - a fking metre!!! - and it’s OK to fart if you need to.

I’m so looking forward to that envelope dropping through the letter box for a repeat poo test in two years’ time…!
Wait till you have a camera up the japseye ..........you cant believe it would actually fit into your bladder ........

Riley Blue

20,987 posts

227 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Sixsixtysix said:
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TheDrownedApe said:
Scenario, been mulling over this for a week now. I'm male BTW.

Had many MRI scans. Had one on the 15th March, head and neck. Know the drill no metal etc so wear my jogging trousers with not metal content etc.

Get to the appt and nurse (female) tells me to strip down to pants and put a gown on. Been here before and explained its not the usual routine as its just neck I usually keep my bottoms on. She dismisses my concerns as routine behaviour; OK no worries.

As I'm waiting to go in the previous patient comes out, a female, fully clothed in a dress and leggings.

I go in, my legs are facing the window where there are 3 staff, all female. Spend 40 mins conscious that I need to be careful with relaxing my legs even though they are slightly elevated on a pillow.

When I walk out there is another female patient waiting to go in, she is fully dressed with leggings on, but in a wheel chair.

Am I wrong to feel ....wronged? What would a female feel/do in this situation. Should I report it, is there anything to report?

Spoken to family and they kinda agreed with me but reticent to speak up.
Are you serious? Report it?

For God's sake. Get a grip!
Would you say the same thing if the patient was female and the nurses all male?
When I had prostate cancer I had over a dozen clinicians checking me out by shoving their finger or a camera where the sun don't shine. One of them was a young and incredibly attractive female doctor. Did I care? Of course not; they were all medical professionals.

When I was undergoing a five week course of radiotherapy with my trousers round my ankles each day all but one of the staff were female. Did I care? Of course not; they were all medical professionals.

My O/H's physiotherapist is male, the doctor who is going to give her a cortisone injection later this morning is male. Does she care? Of course not; they're all medical professionals.


alscar

4,161 posts

214 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Am I wrong to feel ....wronged? What would a female feel/do in this situation. Should I report it, is there anything to report?

To answer the above - yes , I doubt nothing , no and no.
You were just doing what was asked of you by Medical professionals.
I hope the results of the MRI show no issues.

voyds9

8,489 posts

284 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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As a man, man up
If you had been a woman it would have been unconscionable

Welcome to the modern world of double standards

TheDrownedApe said:
Changing rooms are separate to the scanning room so I saw their scan clothes

Been in this machine twice before, last time wore trackies. Can't recall dress for the previous appt

NHS
Perhaps a dress would also have helped this time

InitialDave

11,939 posts

120 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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TheDrownedApe said:
Am I wrong to feel ....wronged?
Yeah, probably.

Same strip to the pants and put a gown on routine when I went for an MRI.

rewild

2,991 posts

140 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Firstly, whether you choose to take it further or let it go, I just want to say that anyone telling you to "man up", implying that your feelings and instincts are weak, is really cheesing me off. It's perfectly possible to offer any number of viewpoints on this without resorting to belittling you. Anyone who has chosen to just knock you down instead is a total douchebag, and in no way the role model for what a so-called strong man should do. Strong men lift each other up, they don't knock others down. Ignore them.


I'd say if it bothers you enough to ponder it after the fact, and then post about it in this cesspit of scummy advice, then go with your instinct and ask the hospital administration what procedure should be. It doesn't need to be accusatory, just ask for clarification. It might just be that there isn't strict policy, and different staff on different days do things differently, or it might be that somebody needs some training. I don't know. But it wouldn't hurt to ask.

oakdale

1,806 posts

203 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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I've had two MRI scans and many more CT scans, some teams ask you to wear a gown and some don't, did you have contrast dye with the scan?
The reason I ask about the dye is that although rare, some people can have an allergic reaction to it and if that happens, they need to inject you with adrenaline ASAP, usually in the thigh which will be much easier if you're in a gown.

jeremyh1

1,362 posts

128 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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One morning ( early|) I was alone on a beach hardly dressed
The next thing I knew there were lots of other people on the beach with hardly any cloths ranging form 4 months to 90 years old

I feel offended and I can only assume that the bloke running the car park let them all in knowing I was there sans clobber

Should I report this?

gt_12345

1,873 posts

36 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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rewild said:
Firstly, whether you choose to take it further or let it go, I just want to say that anyone telling you to "man up", implying that your feelings and instincts are weak, is really cheesing me off. It's perfectly possible to offer any number of viewpoints on this without resorting to belittling you. Anyone who has chosen to just knock you down instead is a total douchebag, and in no way the role model for what a so-called strong man should do. Strong men lift each other up, they don't knock others down. Ignore them.
100% agree

gt_12345

1,873 posts

36 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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jeremyh1 said:
One morning ( early|) I was alone on a beach hardly dressed
The next thing I knew there were lots of other people on the beach with hardly any cloths ranging form 4 months to 90 years old

I feel offended and I can only assume that the bloke running the car park let them all in knowing I was there sans clobber

Should I report this?
No, you should get off Pistonheads and get back to your GCSE revision.

jeremyh1

1,362 posts

128 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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gt_12345 said:
No, you should get off Pistonheads and get back to your GCSE revision.
I will take that as a complement as I did o levels

QJumper

2,709 posts

27 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Ignore the idiots telling you to suck it up. Personally it wouldn't bother me and I'd do nothing, but it's not my place to determine how you feel about something.

Maybe you could contact them and say that you specifically wore clothing without metal content as you feel uncomfortable removing all your clothes but, despite pointing this out, you were still asked to remove them; and ask them if that's normal prodedure. You can also say that you're only asking because all the female patients were allowed to keep their leggings on, and so you felt a little singled out.

Presented like that it's not accusatory, but highlights how you feel about being treated differently. It's quite common for people to think that women are more sensitive/self conscious about such things, and to accomodate that, whilst assuming that men don't give a st, so it doesn't hurt to point out that it can bother some men too.

gt_12345

1,873 posts

36 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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QJumper said:
Maybe you could contact them and say that you specifically wore clothing without metal content as you feel uncomfortable removing all your clothes but, despite pointing this out, you were still asked to remove them; and ask them if that's normal prodedure. You can also say that you're only asking because all the female patients were allowed to keep their leggings on, and so you felt a little singled out.
OP I would not follow this advice.

They do not require any context. There will be a set of guidelines written down. If the guidelines contradicts what they did, they are in the wrong.

The OP only needs to ask for the guidelines/procedure.

Edited by gt_12345 on Wednesday 22 March 15:17

RSTurboPaul

10,430 posts

259 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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rewild said:
Firstly, whether you choose to take it further or let it go, I just want to say that anyone telling you to "man up", implying that your feelings and instincts are weak, is really cheesing me off. It's perfectly possible to offer any number of viewpoints on this without resorting to belittling you. Anyone who has chosen to just knock you down instead is a total douchebag, and in no way the role model for what a so-called strong man should do. Strong men lift each other up, they don't knock others down. Ignore them.


I'd say if it bothers you enough to ponder it after the fact, and then post about it in this cesspit of scummy advice, then go with your instinct and ask the hospital administration what procedure should be. It doesn't need to be accusatory, just ask for clarification. It might just be that there isn't strict policy, and different staff on different days do things differently, or it might be that somebody needs some training. I don't know. But it wouldn't hurt to ask.
This.

RSTurboPaul

10,430 posts

259 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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gt_12345 said:
QJumper said:
Maybe you could contact them and say that you specifically wore clothing without metal content as you feel uncomfortable removing all your clothes but, despite pointing this out, you were still asked to remove them; and ask them if that's normal prodedure. You can also say that you're only asking because all the female patients were allowed to keep their leggings on, and so you felt a little singled out.
OP I would not follow this advice.

They do not require any context. There will be a set of guidelines written down. If the guidelines contradicts what they did, they are in the wrong.

The OP only needs to ask for the guidelines/procedure.
A good point. Mentioning the situation early on may 'put them on the defensive'.

gt_12345

1,873 posts

36 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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RSTurboPaul said:
gt_12345 said:
QJumper said:
Maybe you could contact them and say that you specifically wore clothing without metal content as you feel uncomfortable removing all your clothes but, despite pointing this out, you were still asked to remove them; and ask them if that's normal prodedure. You can also say that you're only asking because all the female patients were allowed to keep their leggings on, and so you felt a little singled out.
OP I would not follow this advice.

They do not require any context. There will be a set of guidelines written down. If the guidelines contradicts what they did, they are in the wrong.

The OP only needs to ask for the guidelines/procedure.
A good point. Mentioning the situation early on may 'put them on the defensive'.
It's always better to ask questions requiring yes/no, true/false, provide/do not provide etc.

Then, they either:

-lie
-provide you with ammunition
-refuse to cooperate.