New development at the end of an unadopted road
Discussion
JNW1 said:
We've got loads of developments going up around where I live and the issue I have with them is there seems to be invariably no thought given to improving the infrastructure to go with them. More often than not there's no more doctors, dentists, schools, etc, to cater for all the extra houses and people and when you're talking about developments in relatively small villages even things like access roads can soon start to become inadequate if the number of vehicle movements increases significantly.
But try putting that to planning departments and it's like knocking your head against a brick wall - they just seem to stick to their pre-determined script and move on to approving the next development regardless. Based on experience round here there's lots of development going on but precious little in the way of thoughtful planning....
Don’t blame the planners - their hands are highly tied. Blame GovtBut try putting that to planning departments and it's like knocking your head against a brick wall - they just seem to stick to their pre-determined script and move on to approving the next development regardless. Based on experience round here there's lots of development going on but precious little in the way of thoughtful planning....
vonhosen said:
gt_12345 said:
It's all made-up?
Does more people increase the demand for housing/rent? Yes
Building more houses helps alleviate any shortfall.Does more people increase the demand for housing/rent? Yes
People are crying out for quality affordable housing.
gt_12345 said:
Does an increase in the demand for housing/rent increase prices? Yes
More housing stock reduces that.Unreal said:
hunton69 said:
They're building on your lawn? Nasty.Get rid of those pensioner slabs and it won't look quite so bad.
SpeckledJim said:
gt_12345 said:
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vonhosen said:
gt_12345 said:
SpeckledJim said:
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SpeckledJim said:
Nimbys everywhere will be hoovering up 2002 Ford Focuses and littering them across the countryside.
Nimby?What sort of person wants 30-50 houses suddenly being built next to them?
Let me rephrase the question: do you think the addition of these houses will improve or worsen their quality of life?
king-selfish view of the world. That sort of person. Someone objected to your house being built, you know. You're glad that they were rightly ignored, because otherwise you'd be bloody chilly tonight.
Do you think the addition of these houses will improve or worsen the OP's quality of life?
It can't be selfish as the OP isn't asking the question. I am.
Migration has been allowed because both New Labour and Tories were/are funded/ran by the same people- business owners who want lower wages and landlords who want more demand for property.
More congestion, more stress, more crime, more demand for public services...... none of which will be experienced by those responsible for the house building, living in their very affluent areas. And these people use public services (education and healthcare) less, so that affects them less too.
It's not being a "nimby" to oppose all this, it's common f
king sense (unless you wish the entire country resembles London?).
Can you define what a nimby is, if not this? You're even whining about foreigners! West Ham fan? Central casting or what!?
Someone, out there, who is like you, but who is not you, would very much prefer that your house did not exist. They have really strong opinions about it.
Be honest now - how much influence over the existence of your house would you like to give them?
I'm against 95% of the population having their quality of life ruined so the remaining 5% can increase their bank balance, without feeling the effects of their actions.
Which of the above is unreasonable and why?
"Any comments from the floor?"
"Err, Thank you Mr Chairman. I just want to say that having 30 new houses at the end of the road is going to ruin my quality of life. And everyone else's. And, err, there are too many immigrants."
"Right, well, umm, thank you for feeling you could speak so freely. [embarrassed pause] Shall we move to a vote?"
Does more people increase the demand for housing/rent? Yes
Does an increase in the demand for housing/rent increase prices? Yes
Does more people increase the supply of Labour? Yes
Does an increase in the supply of Labour suppress wages? Yes
Do the CBI pressure the Government to increase immigration? Yes
Do the CBI represent business owners? Yes
Does more people increase the traffic on roads? Yes
Does more people increase the demand for public services? Yes
Which part is made up?
gt_12345 said:
vonhosen said:
gt_12345 said:
It's all made-up?
Does more people increase the demand for housing/rent? Yes
Building more houses helps alleviate any shortfall.Does more people increase the demand for housing/rent? Yes
People are crying out for quality affordable housing.
gt_12345 said:
Does an increase in the demand for housing/rent increase prices? Yes
More housing stock reduces that.The solution for that is more housing availability.
We aren't talking future immigration policy, that's a separate conversation.
Super Sonic said:
Thought you said it won't affect you?
It doesn't affect him. But it does a little bit because the planning was not what he expected, but it also doesn't because it would push up the value of his own land, but on the other hand it it does because he has empathy for all the local residents. He is a good Samaritan helping out the little guy, and he "never gives up". But it doesn't effect him either so who knows. RumbleOfThunder said:
Super Sonic said:
Thought you said it won't affect you?
It doesn't affect him. But it does a little bit because the planning was not what he expected, but it also doesn't because it would push up the value of his own land, but on the other hand it it does because he has empathy for all the local residents. He is a good Samaritan helping out the little guy, and he "never gives up". But it doesn't effect him either so who knows. 
Grumps. said:
All those owners of the new houses that will be built, will probably be gutted their view is going to be spoilt by his house.
Ha haI previously said I’m 250 meters away up the lane do you believe that there going to build on my neighbours 26 acres he will be over the moon he will be able to buy a second third and fourth GT2
RumbleOfThunder said:
It doesn't affect him. But it does a little bit because the planning was not what he expected, but it also doesn't because it would push up the value of his own land, but on the other hand it it does because he has empathy for all the local residents. He is a good Samaritan helping out the little guy, and he "never gives up". But it doesn't effect him either so who knows.
Thank you. You understand me.We are a nice bunch in the lane as an example my neighbour (he’s on here) who has paddocks and over 20 acres put up a Ukrainian family in his gate house.
They looked after them very well without any publicity as they didn’t want any praise
hunton69 said:
Grumps. said:
All those owners of the new houses that will be built, will probably be gutted their view is going to be spoilt by his house.
Ha haI previously said I’m 250 meters away up the lane do you believe that there going to build on my neighbours 26 acres he will be over the moon he will be able to buy a second third and fourth GT2
Grumps. said:
Gotta love those back handers eh?
Why do people always claim this? What’s more likely:The council, developers and planning committee are all corrupt and risk prison, and a group of angry residents (who are too thick to realise you can’t just claim ownership of a footpath because it’s not used) are correct.
Or, the planners and developers, who’s job it is, and livelihood depends on, understanding the details of planning law know more than said residents?
Electro1980 said:
Grumps. said:
Gotta love those back handers eh?
Why do people always claim this? What’s more likely:The council, developers and planning committee are all corrupt and risk prison, and a group of angry residents (who are too thick to realise you can’t just claim ownership of a footpath because it’s not used) are correct.
Or, the planners and developers, who’s job it is, and livelihood depends on, understanding the details of planning law know more than said residents?
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