New development at the end of an unadopted road

New development at the end of an unadopted road

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hunton69

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664 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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SpeckledJim said:
Your aim was what?
What can the developer do should the residents park badly.
They do it now.
As it’s a sharp right turn of the lane occasionally locals prevent lorries getting into the road.
I’ve had to wait in the lane for lorries to unload and pallet the delivery up to their houses.

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super7

1,935 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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I'd be more concerned as a resident/owner of the unadopted/private road as to how much damage the trucks that are required to build 38 houses will do to it?

Assuming the the developer takes on 50% of the ownership of the road, due to doubling the size of the houses, that leaves the others with a potentially big build to rebuild it afterwards?

I have ZERO experience in this, but logic would say to me that I would either want to get the road adopted or ensure the developer leaves the road as he found it afterwards, or ensures that all 38 houses that he builds pay ground rent to ensure the road is maintained.

I would foresee big road bills in the future!!

geeks

9,188 posts

139 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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K4sper said:
Never met a NIMBY that didn't say "I don't mind development per se, it's just this particular development I object to jester
Indeed our local nimbys are up in arms, "We need more local housing" [council puts local housing plan out] "No... not there!"

CraigyMc

16,409 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Equus said:
355spider said:
I’ll not dispute his contribution to the forum is invaluable at times, however he doesn’t come across particularly pleasant at times, maybe down to the fact he comes across opposition to development on a frequent basis and therefore patience wears thin.
Actually, it's mainly 'cos I'm a nasty bd.

I have never pretended to be nice.
I recon you're nice.

The self-contradiction of OP several times on this thread is not just perplexing. The thread should be named "Room 12A".

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

140 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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geeks said:
K4sper said:
Never met a NIMBY that didn't say "I don't mind development per se, it's just this particular development I object to jester
Indeed our local nimbys are up in arms, "We need more local housing" [council puts local housing plan out] "No... not there!"
Yep, they all screamed about our development plans saying its on a flood risk area, yet refused to back down on the original less wet area, the new primary school is built on raised piles.

eccles

13,735 posts

222 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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carl_w said:
hunton69 said:
This plot suits 9 detached houses which residents would support but council want as many as possible as they only achieving 38% of housing needs
Presumably the residents support 9 as that is the maximum that can be built without having to provide a %age as affordable housing?
Yeah, we can't have poor people in flats living in our leafy bit of the country!

stavers

252 posts

146 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Dingu said:
No wonder there is a lack of housing with such NIMBYs
More than enough houses. We don't need to build any more apart from the fact that it makes people lots of money so the developers give the back handers to the right people and it all carries on.

The biggest problem is that houses are seen as investments rather than places to live and people are prepared to pay stupid money for them based on that reason.

Coventry is currently having about 2500 houses built one green belt on the way out to Birmingham yet a newspaper report said that nearly 3000 houses are sat empty in Coventry. So why does it need another 2500 houses destroying conuntryside?

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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stavers said:
Dingu said:
No wonder there is a lack of housing with such NIMBYs
More than enough houses. We don't need to build any more apart from the fact that it makes people lots of money so the developers give the back handers to the right people and it all carries on.

The biggest problem is that houses are seen as investments rather than places to live and people are prepared to pay stupid money for them based on that reason.

Coventry is currently having about 2500 houses built one green belt on the way out to Birmingham yet a newspaper report said that nearly 3000 houses are sat empty in Coventry. So why does it need another 2500 houses destroying conuntryside?
This is an exciting new angle! Worth a thread in itself I reckon.

alfabeat

1,114 posts

112 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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35 new houses sounds much more appealing to me than a chicken processing plant as a neighbour

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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alfabeat said:
35 new houses sounds much more appealing to me than a chicken processing plant as a neighbour
Our local Nimby Commando Regiment this week dropped a letter through the door (comic sans & clip-art) energetically rabble-rousing against 20-30 new houses and unfortunately let the mask slip when they described the developer as 'money-making'.

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

140 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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stavers said:
Dingu said:
No wonder there is a lack of housing with such NIMBYs
More than enough houses. We don't need to build any more apart from the fact that it makes people lots of money so the developers give the back handers to the right people and it all carries on.

The biggest problem is that houses are seen as investments rather than places to live and people are prepared to pay stupid money for them based on that reason.

Coventry is currently having about 2500 houses built one green belt on the way out to Birmingham yet a newspaper report said that nearly 3000 houses are sat empty in Coventry. So why does it need another 2500 houses destroying conuntryside?
it does depend on what area these empty houses are in, I'd edge my bets they are in shoddy condition and in less than pleasant zones. its the same in most big city zones, I grew up in dagenham, id certainly not want to bring a family up in that area now, but the leafy green area outside I would.

hunton69

Original Poster:

664 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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eccles said:
Yeah, we can't have poor people in flats living in our leafy bit of the country!
Kings Langley is full of flats thats the majority of new builds. TRDC have said they have a shortage of 3 bedroom houses

hunton69

Original Poster:

664 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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alfabeat said:
35 new houses sounds much more appealing to me than a chicken processing plant as a neighbour
It’s been empty for 30 years
I agree I want housing there my concern is those that won’t have a car in the affordable housing must walk 1.3 km to get a pint of milk
To qualify for social housing you have to have pitfall wage

blueg33

35,907 posts

224 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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CraigyMc said:
Equus said:
355spider said:
I’ll not dispute his contribution to the forum is invaluable at times, however he doesn’t come across particularly pleasant at times, maybe down to the fact he comes across opposition to development on a frequent basis and therefore patience wears thin.
Actually, it's mainly 'cos I'm a nasty bd.

I have never pretended to be nice.
I recon you're nice.

The self-contradiction of OP several times on this thread is not just perplexing. The thread should be named "Room 12A".
I've worked with him. The jury is out. rofl

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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hunton69 said:
alfabeat said:
35 new houses sounds much more appealing to me than a chicken processing plant as a neighbour
It’s been empty for 30 years
I agree I want housing there my concern is those that won’t have a car in the affordable housing must walk 1.3 km to get a pint of milk
To qualify for social housing you have to have pitfall wage
rofl

Make sure you put that in all your letters.

Your overarching concern for the down-trodden's access to milk will, unfortunately, mean protecting the value of your home, but life is a struggle.


blueg33

35,907 posts

224 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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hunton69 said:
alfabeat said:
35 new houses sounds much more appealing to me than a chicken processing plant as a neighbour
It’s been empty for 30 years
I agree I want housing there my concern is those that won’t have a car in the affordable housing must walk 1.3 km to get a pint of milk
To qualify for social housing you have to have pitfall wage
Not correct. In some locations doctors on £100k qualify. Also there are a range of different tenures with different affordability criteria.

hunton69

Original Poster:

664 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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stavers said:
More than enough houses. We don't need to build any more apart from the fact that it makes people lots of money so the developers give the back handers to the right people and it all carries on.

The biggest problem is that houses are seen as investments rather than places to live and people are prepared to pay stupid money for them based on that reason.

Coventry is currently having about 2500 houses built one green belt on the way out to Birmingham yet a newspaper report said that nearly 3000 houses are sat empty in Coventry. So why does it need another 2500 houses destroying conuntryside?
Hemel Hempstead up the road have so many empty flats 250 immigrants were put in them 6 months ago

Watford in the other direction is putting up 8,000 flats 27 storeys high they can’t sell them
Camden council London is shipping 1,200 out residents out as they’re knocking those ste holes dow.
These developments are not for locals.

scsracing

81 posts

95 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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hunton69 said:
It’s been empty for 30 years
I agree I want housing there my concern is those that won’t have a car in the affordable housing must walk 1.3 km to get a pint of milk
To qualify for social housing you have to have pitfall wage
1.3km, brutal!!

hunton69

Original Poster:

664 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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CraigyMc said:
I recon you're nice.

The self-contradiction of OP several times on this thread is not just perplexing. The thread should be named "Room 12A".
I’m interested in what’s confusing

hunton69

Original Poster:

664 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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blueg33 said:
Not correct. In some locations doctors on £100k qualify. Also there are a range of different tenures with different affordability criteria.
Not for these ones. I know where your coming from

Doctor on 100 grand is going to live in a rabbit hutch… that’s funny