Police horses, Police cars, Police Vans... but Police HGVs?

Police horses, Police cars, Police Vans... but Police HGVs?

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Vasco

16,477 posts

105 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Dr Murdoch said:
Today I saw a Police HGV tractor unit on the motorway, never seen one before. What is their purpose?

This one was pulled up in the hard shoulder behind an articulated HGV, with a Police van in front of that. The Police HGV had disguised blue lights in its rear wheel arches and blue lights in the front grill. No other markings of lights were visible.
M1 near Leicester, jct 21 ??

GiantCardboardPlato

4,179 posts

21 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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normalbloke said:
Bigends said:
BTP used trains at one time - to catch kids and other trespassers
Helicopters too..
And bicycles

poo at Paul's

14,147 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Jo-say8k said:
vonhosen said:
CraigyMc said:
I wonder how fast the police HGV is allowed to go...
Those I used didn't have a limiter fitted.
This is PH...
How fast did you go?!
In the 80s I can remember having proper ding dong A and B road races in my Ford Fiesta with tractor units with no trailers. 90 to 100 was no problem for them! biglaughbiglaugh

poo at Paul's

14,147 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Jo-say8k said:
vonhosen said:
CraigyMc said:
I wonder how fast the police HGV is allowed to go...
Those I used didn't have a limiter fitted.
This is PH...
How fast did you go?!
In the 80s I can remember having proper ding dong A and B road races in my Ford Fiesta with tractor units with no trailers. 90 to 100 was no problem for them! biglaughbiglaugh

CraigyMc

16,405 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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poo at Paul's said:
Jo-say8k said:
vonhosen said:
CraigyMc said:
I wonder how fast the police HGV is allowed to go...
Those I used didn't have a limiter fitted.
This is PH...
How fast did you go?!
In the 80s I can remember having proper ding dong A and B road races in my Ford Fiesta with tractor units with no trailers. 90 to 100 was no problem for them! biglaughbiglaugh
I found a top gear article talking about the police HGVs that said they'd do about 70mph in service.

A bit disappointing really. I was hoping for more of a Duel-style thing that could outrun cars smile

Dr Murdoch

Original Poster:

3,444 posts

135 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Vasco said:
M1 near Leicester, jct 21 ??
No, I think it was M25 (Kent)

Vasco

16,477 posts

105 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Dr Murdoch said:
No, I think it was M25 (Kent)
Interesting. There was a similar incident on M1 involving a police tractor unit with both a truck and a car transporter.

W124Bob

1,745 posts

175 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Bigends said:
BTP used trains at one time - to catch kids and other trespassers
They were called Q trains, usually run during school holiday time. it was a practice that seemed to fizzle out around the time more modern units came on stream. An old fashioned slam door DMU had a good sized brake compartment with not to many windows(don't want scrotes seeing uniforms) and an inward opening door, a window from the passenger compartment looking straight over the drivers shoulder gave a good view for the BTP. Then there was this, actually done for a TV add for the new HST, rumour has it that the washable paint wasn't quite washable!

iDrive

416 posts

113 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Highways England (Now National Highways) provided Police with an HGV Tractor unit on loan for free, rotating a number of units around forces.

Southerner

1,410 posts

52 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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I'd have thought a lone, unbranded tractor unit prowling the motorways would be fairly easy to spot really, once there's a bit of awareness. Cabs running minus a trailer aren't overly common, particularly up and down m-ways, especially newish models in plain white.

CraigyMc

16,405 posts

236 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Southerner said:
I'd have thought a lone, unbranded tractor unit prowling the motorways would be fairly easy to spot really, once there's a bit of awareness. Cabs running minus a trailer aren't overly common, particularly up and down m-ways, especially newish models in plain white.
They sometimes run about with trailers on.

123DWA

1,288 posts

103 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Southerner said:
I'd have thought a lone, unbranded tractor unit prowling the motorways would be fairly easy to spot really, once there's a bit of awareness. Cabs running minus a trailer aren't overly common, particularly up and down m-ways, especially newish models in plain white.
They're easy to spot as all the other HGV's are doing 54-56mph on the inside lane, the police ones charge down the middle lane doing 65mph hehe

vikingaero

10,334 posts

169 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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You can watch loads of YouTube videos of the Police HGV trucks. They drive past miscreants and record them - "male driver of blue Audi using mobile phone in right hand. I can see them using clearly using WhatsApp on the screen." Then they radio their colleagues in patrol cars to do the stop.

It's really scary knowing that (mainly) HGV drivers are so distracted with their phones and even worse watching films on laptops and mobiles and possibly wiping out your family in their car. I think we need to start moving on from 6 points and fines to confiscating phones/laptops and destroying them/ It's the only narrative these people will understand.

Ganglandboss

8,307 posts

203 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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It gives the police a chance to see inside the mind of a serial killer.

normalbloke

7,451 posts

219 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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CraigyMc said:
Southerner said:
I'd have thought a lone, unbranded tractor unit prowling the motorways would be fairly easy to spot really, once there's a bit of awareness. Cabs running minus a trailer aren't overly common, particularly up and down m-ways, especially newish models in plain white.
They sometimes run about with trailers on.
Never,ever seen or heard of that. Happy to be proved wrong though.

CraigyMc

16,405 posts

236 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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normalbloke said:
CraigyMc said:
Southerner said:
I'd have thought a lone, unbranded tractor unit prowling the motorways would be fairly easy to spot really, once there's a bit of awareness. Cabs running minus a trailer aren't overly common, particularly up and down m-ways, especially newish models in plain white.
They sometimes run about with trailers on.
Never,ever seen or heard of that. Happy to be proved wrong though.
I read it in one of the articles about this. It stuck in the mind as I was wondering how they'd qualify a trailer for 70mph.. smile

qwerty360

190 posts

45 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Southerner said:
I'd have thought a lone, unbranded tractor unit prowling the motorways would be fairly easy to spot really, once there's a bit of awareness. Cabs running minus a trailer aren't overly common, particularly up and down m-ways, especially newish models in plain white.
Have you seen photos of what some of the cyclists who (very successfully) report drivers on phones in london wear/carry?

Seriously, for the dangerous idiots they are mostly trying to catch (phones, tvs, etc) they could drive around with police livery and lights + sirens running and still not be noticed...

IJWS15

1,848 posts

85 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Southerner said:
I'd have thought a lone, unbranded tractor unit prowling the motorways would be fairly easy to spot really, once there's a bit of awareness. Cabs running minus a trailer aren't overly common, particularly up and down m-ways, especially newish models in plain white.
99% of drivers don't notice anything outside the 10 metres of the lane in front of them.

My estimate may be on the low side.

CraigyMc

16,405 posts

236 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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IJWS15 said:
Southerner said:
I'd have thought a lone, unbranded tractor unit prowling the motorways would be fairly easy to spot really, once there's a bit of awareness. Cabs running minus a trailer aren't overly common, particularly up and down m-ways, especially newish models in plain white.
99% of drivers don't notice anything outside the 10 metres of the lane in front of them.

My estimate may be on the low side.
12 metres?

jester

6289steve

4 posts

80 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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CraigyMc said:
normalbloke said:
CraigyMc said:
Southerner said:
I'd have thought a lone, unbranded tractor unit prowling the motorways would be fairly easy to spot really, once there's a bit of awareness. Cabs running minus a trailer aren't overly common, particularly up and down m-ways, especially newish models in plain white.
They sometimes run about with trailers on.
Never,ever seen or heard of that. Happy to be proved wrong though.
I read it in one of the articles about this. It stuck in the mind as I was wondering how they'd qualify a trailer for 70mph.. smile
No trailers. 3 tractor units supplied by National Highways as part of their commitment to road safety. Loaned to police forces across England, driven by police officers with police officer recording offences.