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Bannock said:
Whatever it is it sounds dreadfully Europeeun and is therefore an infringement of our National Sovrintee. We must Leave immediately. Leave means Leave. I demand we have a picture of His Majesty King Charles III (grovel grovel) instead of a UK badge. That'll show the garlic munching swine who's boss on my way down to Benidorm for my fish and chips, 47 pints of Carling and a fight with some Germans.
Please get over it, you lost now get behind everyone to make the UK Great againDoofus said:
CraigyMc said:
BertBert said:
Just curious about whose regulations require the UK sticker? It must be under EU law as that's what applies over the water.
It's the Geneva convention.It's the Geneva Protocol.
The Geneva Convention on Road Traffic is outdated by the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic for signatory countries, and has the most reference to this topic, outlined below:
Vienna Convention on road traffic said:
One of the main benefits of the convention for motorists is the obligation on signatory countries to recognize the legality of vehicles from other signatory countries. The following requirements must be met when driving outside the country of registration:
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- A distinguishing sign of the country of registration must be displayed on the rear of the vehicle. This sign may either be placed separately from the registration plate or may be incorporated into the vehicle registration plate.
- The physical requirements for the separate sign are defined in Annex 3 of the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic, which states that the letters shall be in black on a white background having the shape of an ellipse with the major axis horizontal. The distinguishing sign should not be affixed in such a way that it could be confused with the registration number or impair its legibility.
- When the distinguishing sign is incorporated into the registration plate, it must also appear on the front registration plate of the vehicle, and may be supplemented with the flag or emblem of the national state, or the emblem of the regional economic integration organization to which the country belongs. The distinguishing sign should be displayed on the far left or far right on the registration plate. When a symbol/flag/emblem is also displayed, the distinguishing sign shall obligatorily be placed on the far left on the plate. The distinguishing sign shall be positioned to be easily identifiable and so that it cannot be confused with the registration number or impair its legibility. The distinguishing sign shall therefore be at least a different color from the registration number, or have a different background color to that reserved for the registration number, or be clearly separated from the registration number, preferably with a line.
In 37 years (included in which are several years on and off living and working in France, Germany and Belgium) I’ve never put a GB or any other national identifier on my cars. Never had an issue, despite multiple pulls (and a ban) for speeding.
I have however had the blue GB and EU stars on my plates, which I continue to use - you can still get them made up from online suppliers (complete with BS AU and postcodes).
I have however had the blue GB and EU stars on my plates, which I continue to use - you can still get them made up from online suppliers (complete with BS AU and postcodes).
r5kdt said:
Bannock said:
Whatever it is it sounds dreadfully Europeeun and is therefore an infringement of our National Sovrintee. We must Leave immediately. Leave means Leave. I demand we have a picture of His Majesty King Charles III (grovel grovel) instead of a UK badge. That'll show the garlic munching swine who's boss on my way down to Benidorm for my fish and chips, 47 pints of Carling and a fight with some Germans.
Please get over it, you lost now get behind everyone to make the UK Great again
You ought to go on the stage with that material.Bodo said:
Doofus said:
CraigyMc said:
BertBert said:
Just curious about whose regulations require the UK sticker? It must be under EU law as that's what applies over the water.
It's the Geneva convention.It's the Geneva Protocol.
The Geneva Convention on Road Traffic is outdated by the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic for signatory countries, and has the most reference to this topic, outlined below:
Vienna Convention on road traffic said:
One of the main benefits of the convention for motorists is the obligation on signatory countries to recognize the legality of vehicles from other signatory countries. The following requirements must be met when driving outside the country of registration:
...
...
- A distinguishing sign of the country of registration must be displayed on the rear of the vehicle. This sign may either be placed separately from the registration plate or may be incorporated into the vehicle registration plate.
- The physical requirements for the separate sign are defined in Annex 3 of the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic, which states that the letters shall be in black on a white background having the shape of an ellipse with the major axis horizontal. The distinguishing sign should not be affixed in such a way that it could be confused with the registration number or impair its legibility.
- When the distinguishing sign is incorporated into the registration plate, it must also appear on the front registration plate of the vehicle, and may be supplemented with the flag or emblem of the national state, or the emblem of the regional economic integration organization to which the country belongs. The distinguishing sign should be displayed on the far left or far right on the registration plate. When a symbol/flag/emblem is also displayed, the distinguishing sign shall obligatorily be placed on the far left on the plate. The distinguishing sign shall be positioned to be easily identifiable and so that it cannot be confused with the registration number or impair its legibility. The distinguishing sign shall therefore be at least a different color from the registration number, or have a different background color to that reserved for the registration number, or be clearly separated from the registration number, preferably with a line.
Doofus said:
CraigyMc said:
BertBert said:
Just curious about whose regulations require the UK sticker? It must be under EU law as that's what applies over the water.
It's the Geneva convention.It's the Geneva Protocol.
r5kdt said:
Bannock said:
Whatever it is it sounds dreadfully Europeeun and is therefore an infringement of our National Sovrintee. We must Leave immediately. Leave means Leave. I demand we have a picture of His Majesty King Charles III (grovel grovel) instead of a UK badge. That'll show the garlic munching swine who's boss on my way down to Benidorm for my fish and chips, 47 pints of Carling and a fight with some Germans.
Please get over it, you lost now get behind everyone to make the UK Great again
No thanks, too late for that.
I’ll proudly stick with my EU plates, rather than the Ukip staff car look..
jdoubleu said:
Doofus said:
CraigyMc said:
BertBert said:
Just curious about whose regulations require the UK sticker? It must be under EU law as that's what applies over the water.
It's the Geneva convention.It's the Geneva Protocol.
JB99 said:
I'm currently on the Algarve, been here almost two months, 'er indoors flew out for a couple of weeks and when I was ferrying 'er to Faro for a 0630hr flight we got stopped in a general vehicle stop. Once local plod had agreed that I did not smell of hooch the next question was;
' How long have you owned this van?'
' Four years,'
'But after 6 months you must register it in Portugal!'
We then had to go through the rigmarole of showing passports to establish multiple two month visits, entering EU via Dieppe helped here!
Whilst I am a brexitter, things were easier with FoM.....
nothing to do with brexit. all cars should be registered locally after 6months in a new country.' How long have you owned this van?'
' Four years,'
'But after 6 months you must register it in Portugal!'
We then had to go through the rigmarole of showing passports to establish multiple two month visits, entering EU via Dieppe helped here!
Whilst I am a brexitter, things were easier with FoM.....
in fact the Portuguese were hotter on this many years ago, with GB NL and G cars being particularly suspicious (frequent offenders!)
E63eeeeee... said:
The Ordnance Survey would disagree with you on that.
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/whats-the-di...
So why are GBA, GBG, GBJ, GBM and GBZ plates still valid, even though none of them are in GB ?https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/whats-the-di...
Penny Whistle said:
E63eeeeee... said:
The Ordnance Survey would disagree with you on that.
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/whats-the-di...
So why are GBA, GBG, GBJ, GBM and GBZ plates still valid, even though none of them are in GB ?https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/whats-the-di...
Jersey, Guernsey and IoM aren't even part of the UK, and I'm fairly sure nobody's arguing that Gibraltar is part of Great Britain.
E63eeeeee... said:
Penny Whistle said:
E63eeeeee... said:
The Ordnance Survey would disagree with you on that.
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/whats-the-di...
So why are GBA, GBG, GBJ, GBM and GBZ plates still valid, even though none of them are in GB ?https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/whats-the-di...
Jersey, Guernsey and IoM aren't even part of the UK, and I'm fairly sure nobody's arguing that Gibraltar is part of Great Britain.
catso said:
98elise said:
I've driven in Europe loads of times and have never had a UK or GB sticker. It never occured to me to put one on!
Likewise, though not since Brexit but, has there been any change of stance from EU Police forces?See also: France for toll roads and crit air, etc.
Doofus said:
CraigyMc said:
BertBert said:
Just curious about whose regulations require the UK sticker? It must be under EU law as that's what applies over the water.
It's the Geneva convention.It's the Geneva Protocol.
Firstly, Country identifiers were agreed by the Paris Convention of 1909
These were then modified at a second Paris Convention of 1929 , subsequently the Geneva Convention of 1949 and finally the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic of 1968
NomduJour said:
QuickQuack said:
But it's absolutely fine for athletes from Northern Ireland to be in Team GB and represent "GB" at the Olympics and Paralympics in front of the whole world every 4 years?
Full name the "Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team".
And this is Rebecca Edwards from Co Tyrone, who has both "Great Britain" AND "Team GB" written on her kit at Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games. It doesn't matter what the full name is, the official branding is Team GB, the official country title on sports apparel is Great Britain, and the official short country code is GB/GBR. You can protest all you like about what the full name is, but the 8 billion people on the planet still only see Team GB. Not "Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team".
QuickQuack said:
NomduJour said:
QuickQuack said:
But it's absolutely fine for athletes from Northern Ireland to be in Team GB and represent "GB" at the Olympics and Paralympics in front of the whole world every 4 years?
Full name the "Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team".And this is Rebecca Edwards from Co Tyrone, who has both "Great Britain" AND "Team GB" written on her kit at Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games. It doesn't matter what the full name is, the official branding is Team GB, the official country title on sports apparel is Great Britain, and the official short country code is GB/GBR. You can protest all you like about what the full name is, but the 8 billion people on the planet still only see Team GB. Not "Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team".
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