Thomas Cashman sentence
Discussion
cossy400 said:
His lover that reported to of grassed him up has basically gave her life too.
Protective custody and will probably never be able to step foot back in her home town.
Brave girl.
Why do you reckon that? Can’t imagine anyone will be going out of their way to trouble her. Even criminals have boundaries I.e not shooting innocent 9 year old girls in their own home….Protective custody and will probably never be able to step foot back in her home town.
Brave girl.
Leptons said:
cossy400 said:
His lover that reported to of grassed him up has basically gave her life too.
Protective custody and will probably never be able to step foot back in her home town.
Brave girl.
Why do you reckon that? Can’t imagine anyone will be going out of their way to trouble her. Even criminals have boundaries I.e not shooting innocent 9 year old girls in their own home….Protective custody and will probably never be able to step foot back in her home town.
Brave girl.
And maybe Barbie girl might want punch her face in to for having her man
Having become pivotal to Cashman's conviction, she is said to have faced more threats than any witness Merseyside Police have ever dealt with.
She has since been granted a lifetime of anonymity under the witness protection scheme and is believed to have been moved out of Liverpool.
From the Mail.
She has since been granted a lifetime of anonymity under the witness protection scheme and is believed to have been moved out of Liverpool.
From the Mail.
cossy400 said:
Having become pivotal to Cashman's conviction, she is said to have faced more threats than any witness Merseyside Police have ever dealt with.
She has since been granted a lifetime of anonymity under the witness protection scheme and is believed to have been moved out of Liverpool.
From the Mail.
Shows how many scumbags are out there willing to defend child killers. Absolutely sickening individuals. She has since been granted a lifetime of anonymity under the witness protection scheme and is believed to have been moved out of Liverpool.
From the Mail.
There's only one possible outcome for a murder conviction. Life.
The only question is whether that's a whole life sentence or the judge sets a minimum period after which the prisoner can apply to the Parole Board for release on licence for the rest of his life.
The starting point for an adult offender, use of a firearm, single victim, is life, minimum 30 years.
The only question is whether that's a whole life sentence or the judge sets a minimum period after which the prisoner can apply to the Parole Board for release on licence for the rest of his life.
The starting point for an adult offender, use of a firearm, single victim, is life, minimum 30 years.
CoolHands said:
Crime aside, I thought that this was one of the most anger inducing parts of the trial.
What goes through anyones mind, to dress up in a "look at me" kind of way in a situation like this is beyond me.
Probably inspired by celebrities such as Rebekah Vardy who glam up, when going to court.
jm8403 said:
Really? from what I have read/seen about prison is that all high risk like paedos get separated automatically, are you saying that's wrong?
At the risk of derailing this thread. It’s not automatic. There are prisons that only hold those convicted of sexual offences, but on reception into prison for an offence of that type generally the staff will ask if you want to be segregated. Rule 43 is the internal name for it (hence doing the numbers) and lots of people who are regulars on the prison treadmill will ask for this too. Either for a quieter life or because they’ve got some kind of ongoing dispute with people in the main population.
There’s a lot of cases where someone who has a record for crimes that are acceptable and is ashamed to be seen on the numbers that they’ll try and get by. Usually this lasts until someone hears something from a mutual acquaintance or the local press, then they realise they’re suddenly not who they want to pretend to be.
There are also prisons that have no specific wings or process for segregating people convicted of sex offences including some open prisons.
As for Cashman, it’s sad that he’s not been able to accept responsibility for his actions, but that’s clearly the way for career criminals. He’s obviously going to get a life sentence but the guidelines will make giving a whole life term extremely difficult
ChrisH79 said:
At the risk of derailing this thread.
It’s not automatic. There are prisons that only hold those convicted of sexual offences, but on reception into prison for an offence of that type generally the staff will ask if you want to be segregated. Rule 43 is the internal name for it (hence doing the numbers) and lots of people who are regulars on the prison treadmill will ask for this too. Either for a quieter life or because they’ve got some kind of ongoing dispute with people in the main population.
There’s a lot of cases where someone who has a record for crimes that are acceptable and is ashamed to be seen on the numbers that they’ll try and get by. Usually this lasts until someone hears something from a mutual acquaintance or the local press, then they realise they’re suddenly not who they want to pretend to be.
There are also prisons that have no specific wings or process for segregating people convicted of sex offences including some open prisons.
As for Cashman, it’s sad that he’s not been able to accept responsibility for his actions, but that’s clearly the way for career criminals. He’s obviously going to get a life sentence but the guidelines will make giving a whole life term extremely difficult
So not impossible?It’s not automatic. There are prisons that only hold those convicted of sexual offences, but on reception into prison for an offence of that type generally the staff will ask if you want to be segregated. Rule 43 is the internal name for it (hence doing the numbers) and lots of people who are regulars on the prison treadmill will ask for this too. Either for a quieter life or because they’ve got some kind of ongoing dispute with people in the main population.
There’s a lot of cases where someone who has a record for crimes that are acceptable and is ashamed to be seen on the numbers that they’ll try and get by. Usually this lasts until someone hears something from a mutual acquaintance or the local press, then they realise they’re suddenly not who they want to pretend to be.
There are also prisons that have no specific wings or process for segregating people convicted of sex offences including some open prisons.
As for Cashman, it’s sad that he’s not been able to accept responsibility for his actions, but that’s clearly the way for career criminals. He’s obviously going to get a life sentence but the guidelines will make giving a whole life term extremely difficult
ghamer said:
ChrisH79 said:
At the risk of derailing this thread.
It’s not automatic. There are prisons that only hold those convicted of sexual offences, but on reception into prison for an offence of that type generally the staff will ask if you want to be segregated. Rule 43 is the internal name for it (hence doing the numbers) and lots of people who are regulars on the prison treadmill will ask for this too. Either for a quieter life or because they’ve got some kind of ongoing dispute with people in the main population.
There’s a lot of cases where someone who has a record for crimes that are acceptable and is ashamed to be seen on the numbers that they’ll try and get by. Usually this lasts until someone hears something from a mutual acquaintance or the local press, then they realise they’re suddenly not who they want to pretend to be.
There are also prisons that have no specific wings or process for segregating people convicted of sex offences including some open prisons.
As for Cashman, it’s sad that he’s not been able to accept responsibility for his actions, but that’s clearly the way for career criminals. He’s obviously going to get a life sentence but the guidelines will make giving a whole life term extremely difficult
So not impossible?It’s not automatic. There are prisons that only hold those convicted of sexual offences, but on reception into prison for an offence of that type generally the staff will ask if you want to be segregated. Rule 43 is the internal name for it (hence doing the numbers) and lots of people who are regulars on the prison treadmill will ask for this too. Either for a quieter life or because they’ve got some kind of ongoing dispute with people in the main population.
There’s a lot of cases where someone who has a record for crimes that are acceptable and is ashamed to be seen on the numbers that they’ll try and get by. Usually this lasts until someone hears something from a mutual acquaintance or the local press, then they realise they’re suddenly not who they want to pretend to be.
There are also prisons that have no specific wings or process for segregating people convicted of sex offences including some open prisons.
As for Cashman, it’s sad that he’s not been able to accept responsibility for his actions, but that’s clearly the way for career criminals. He’s obviously going to get a life sentence but the guidelines will make giving a whole life term extremely difficult
jm8403 said:
Doesn't sound like it but id doubt someone like him woudl go to an open prison?
He will be category A for a long, long time before being considered for open conditions and only then maybe in the final quarter of his sentence or maybe never! As the previous poster mentioned, the numbers (or the nonce wing as they are known) are usually for people under considerable danger in the main prison ie sex offenders, rapists etc or people who have enemies within the system. Cashman will 100% not end up on a protection wing! As for sentence life with min 30-35 years
cjt1979 said:
He will be category A for a long, long time before being considered for open conditions and only then maybe in the final quarter of his sentence or maybe never! As the previous poster mentioned, the numbers (or the nonce wing as they are known) are usually for people under considerable danger in the main prison ie sex offenders, rapists etc or people who have enemies within the system. Cashman will 100% not end up on a protection wing!
As for sentence life with min 30-35 years
You say minimum sentence, does that mean he will serve that amount as a minimum, or could be out in 15?As for sentence life with min 30-35 years
jm8403 said:
cjt1979 said:
He will be category A for a long, long time before being considered for open conditions and only then maybe in the final quarter of his sentence or maybe never! As the previous poster mentioned, the numbers (or the nonce wing as they are known) are usually for people under considerable danger in the main prison ie sex offenders, rapists etc or people who have enemies within the system. Cashman will 100% not end up on a protection wing!
As for sentence life with min 30-35 years
You say minimum sentence, does that mean he will serve that amount as a minimum, or could be out in 15?As for sentence life with min 30-35 years
Leptons said:
Why do you reckon that? Can’t imagine anyone will be going out of their way to trouble her. Even criminals have boundaries I.e not shooting innocent 9 year old girls in their own home….
The police said she's received more death threats than any other witness in their history. Which says plenty of the calibre of the people.
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