Roundabout slingshot legality?
Discussion
Articles today about, when your roundabout left turn is congested on a multiple entrance roundabout, if you can you swap to the right hand m then slingshot around, thus beating the queue.
I'm pretty sure I read of someone being prosecuted for doing this several years ago, on a minor charge when the roads were heavily congested. It might have been driving without due care and attention which includes reasonable behaviour towards other road users?
I'm pretty sure I read of someone being prosecuted for doing this several years ago, on a minor charge when the roads were heavily congested. It might have been driving without due care and attention which includes reasonable behaviour towards other road users?
“ The offence of driving without due care and attention (careless driving) is committed when your driving falls below the minimum standard expected of a competent and careful driver, and includes driving without reasonable consideration for other road users.”
That’s your most likely offence though it's a bit of a stretch and unless you're driving like a knob it's very unlikely you'd get stopped.
That’s your most likely offence though it's a bit of a stretch and unless you're driving like a knob it's very unlikely you'd get stopped.
Edited by Alex Z on Thursday 6th April 19:13
Dear Judge, I saw the congestion and rather than add to it thought I would take a different route home, so decided to turn right, however as I did so I suddenly remembered that I needed to:
- pick up a prescription for my ailing mother
- collect my child from nursery
- pop in to the supermarket to buy dinner
- beat the others in the queue to get home 30 seconds early
so realised I had no choice but to take the original route, I therefore carefully circled the roundabout and considerately rejoined the queue (from the roundabout having defeated at least 3 old grannies and managed to get ahead of them!)
In reality there is no law to stop you as long as you are considerate - you are allowed to change your mind, and you can legally circle a roundabout all day if you genuinely have a reason and don't upset everyone else however I rarely see any point unless of course you feel that your time is more valuable that that of everyone else in the queue, in which case perhaps there are other issues at play?!
- pick up a prescription for my ailing mother
- collect my child from nursery
- pop in to the supermarket to buy dinner
- beat the others in the queue to get home 30 seconds early
so realised I had no choice but to take the original route, I therefore carefully circled the roundabout and considerately rejoined the queue (from the roundabout having defeated at least 3 old grannies and managed to get ahead of them!)
In reality there is no law to stop you as long as you are considerate - you are allowed to change your mind, and you can legally circle a roundabout all day if you genuinely have a reason and don't upset everyone else however I rarely see any point unless of course you feel that your time is more valuable that that of everyone else in the queue, in which case perhaps there are other issues at play?!
If you enter the roundabout from the right hand lane and go completely around the roundabout and then take an exit you have not committed any offence at all
If you enter the roundabout from the right hand lane and then cut across traffic to the left and take the first exit then likely you have committed more than one offence
If you enter the roundabout from the right hand lane and then cut across traffic to the left and take the first exit then likely you have committed more than one offence
akirk said:
Dear Judge, I saw the congestion and rather than add to it thought I would take a different route home, so decided to turn right, however as I did so I suddenly remembered that I needed to:
- pick up a prescription for my ailing mother
- collect my child from nursery
- pop in to the supermarket to buy dinner
- beat the others in the queue to get home 30 seconds early
so realised I had no choice but to take the original route, I therefore carefully circled the roundabout and considerately rejoined the queue (from the roundabout having defeated at least 3 old grannies and managed to get ahead of them!)
In reality there is no law to stop you as long as you are considerate - you are allowed to change your mind, and you can legally circle a roundabout all day if you genuinely have a reason and don't upset everyone else however I rarely see any point unless of course you feel that your time is more valuable that that of everyone else in the queue, in which case perhaps there are other issues at play?!
You forgot the sudden onset of a 'bowel urgency' as you started the right turn so were forced to resume your original heading.- pick up a prescription for my ailing mother
- collect my child from nursery
- pop in to the supermarket to buy dinner
- beat the others in the queue to get home 30 seconds early
so realised I had no choice but to take the original route, I therefore carefully circled the roundabout and considerately rejoined the queue (from the roundabout having defeated at least 3 old grannies and managed to get ahead of them!)
In reality there is no law to stop you as long as you are considerate - you are allowed to change your mind, and you can legally circle a roundabout all day if you genuinely have a reason and don't upset everyone else however I rarely see any point unless of course you feel that your time is more valuable that that of everyone else in the queue, in which case perhaps there are other issues at play?!
Bestle said:
What would the offence be if you went into the right lane and then cut across to go straight on? I do it quite often when there's something that's going to pull away slowly in the left lane, never once impeding their progress.
If there's two lanes straight on, your ok to use the Rh lane. If there's only one, you should stay left. Unless markings or signs say otherwise. I have actually been pulled for this!Edited by Bestle on Thursday 6th April 19:35
Many, many years ago there used to be a roundabout in Bristol that actually instructed you to do that - for those who might recall, it was at the end of the ‘fun’ flyover and there wasn’t sufficient distance between leaving the flyover and getting into the left hand lane to turn left at the roundabout.
cootuk said:
Articles today about, when your roundabout left turn is congested on a multiple entrance roundabout, if you can you swap to the right hand m then slingshot around, thus beating the queue.
I'm pretty sure I read of someone being prosecuted for doing this several years ago, on a minor charge when the roads were heavily congested. It might have been driving without due care and attention which includes reasonable behaviour towards other road users?
This is what i would do. Surprised if there is anything "against the law" about it.I'm pretty sure I read of someone being prosecuted for doing this several years ago, on a minor charge when the roads were heavily congested. It might have been driving without due care and attention which includes reasonable behaviour towards other road users?
TX.
Earthdweller said:
If you enter the roundabout from the right hand lane and then cut across traffic to the left and take the first exit then likely you have committed more than one offence
There's one I used regularly where all entries and exits are two lane DCs. Absolute throbbers would get in the right-hand lane then turn left, causing frequent near-misses and plenty of road rage both with cars going straight AND cars turning left (as a lot of the cars turning left needed lane 2 on the new road).The council painted arrows on the road clarifying that the right lane was straight and right only, the problem abated for a while, then the throbbers started throbbing again.
I wonder if the council should "legitimise" turning left from the right lane there... Stops the near misses and also means the throbbers lose their little wheeze
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